Comments on: Fieger Acquitted of all Charges

By: bell

bell — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:33:49 +0000

bmaz – thanks

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:53:07 +0000

Absolutely. All your comments extremely on target.

By: bmaz

bmaz — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:47:31 +0000

Pete, they (Feiger) did get a fair amount, although not all, of that discovery/inquiry. From my read, Borman was close to dismissing the whole thing, but the facts as presented didn’t set up exactly right. I will bet dollars to donuts that Borman is one relieved dude that the jury acquitted though, i think he was banking on that. Fieger has enough goods to probe on a civil suit if he wants. Would sure be nice to see a little of the parallel prosecution tag teaming with Congress (which I generally oppose, but what the hell) like they so gleefully did with the Clemens case.

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:44:49 +0000

Don’t be fooled by the formal language on their website Kirk–these clowns commit a lot of malpractice and Rx prosecutions inappropritely all the time.

PIN @ DOJ

By: bmaz

bmaz — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:42:15 +0000

There were technical difficulties. There are a lot of moving parts to the greater FDL ship, and things are still being sorted out after having added a few of them recently. They are aware of the issues and working diligently to insure future stability.

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:41:13 +0000

Agreed. It was “team effort” all the pitiful way around; but that is why the supposed grownups at Main are supposedly there; except when, like here, they just are not.

ABsolutely. That’s why there is a protocol to have these prosecutions approved at Main with even more bases theoretically to touch when PIN is involved.

I believe that Kendall Day, still very wet behind the ears at 30 years old from PIN, and his boss Noel Hillman and AUSA Lynn Helland as well as Judge Paul Borman all knew that this was a politically driven prosecution. Borman questioned having 80 agents raid Feiger’s law office (damn I’m glad that DOJ and DHS and FBI have such a great handle on terrorism that they have determined allocation of personnel appropriately this way) knew in spades they had a politically orchestrated prosecution from the firm of Cheney, Rove, Addington, and Gillespie and there were all kinds of elliptical and direct vectors by which they should have known this.

We have a rich story here if Conyers and others will investigate the White House’s participation in instigation of Feiger’s prosecution.

I haven’t followed this case that closely, but I remember Judge Borman was considering a request from Feiger’s attorneys for an investigation and there sure would be grounds for Conyers digging his teeth into Helland’s butt, PIN’s butt, Marshall, and the butts that are squatting in chairs much higher because that is where this initiated.

This should have been a defense that Bmaz enjoyed, because one of his stars, the legendary Gerry Spense at age 78, who got Imelda Marcos acquitted, as well as Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge fame, helped coordinate the defense team along with David Nevin from Boise, Idaho, who is defending Khalid Sheik Mohammed a current Gitmo resident.

I’m with Bmaz on Spense. He’s definitely an allstar to have in your corner.

By: bell

bell — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:35:55 +0000

if someone already covered this i apologize for bringing it up again : is their some sort of problem with this website?? i couldn’t get on most of yesterday… thanks -

By: bmaz

bmaz — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:39:10 +0000

Agreed. It was “team effort” all the pitiful way around; but that is why the supposed grownups at Main are supposedly there; except when, like here, they just are not. Interestingly, however, this is all exactly why I was suggesting that Fieger has a civil door to open if he so chooses. There are state level and private actors littered in the process that can serve as sufficient party defendants to get at discovery on the whole larger set of actors. Which, of course, that other notable complaint failed to do.

By: emptywheel

emptywheel — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:23:17 +0000

Agree about PIN. But I think what happened there is that Humphrey walked in the front door of FBI. Both MI ED and PIN started investigating it. Neither the ED MI USA (who has ties to Cox and every reason to want Fieger in jail) or Noel Hillman did what they should do and leave the whole investigation to FEC (had they done so, Fieger would have gotten a big fine). But then, after these leaders did not do as they should, the investigation continued. That’s not to say that Marshall Day and Lynn Helland knew they were getting a prosecution that was politicall tainted (whereas I think the Siegelman USA went several steps further).

Of course that’s why it got to trial. Because they isolated off the areas that tainted it in such a way that Fieger could not prove taint, even though it’s crazy to imagine that Cox had no involvement in this.

By: bmaz

bmaz — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:59:20 +0000

PIN is the Public Integrity Section at the DOJ. As to the nature of their movement, I would characterize it as bowel related….