Comments on: Did Condi Speak with Bush about Rove’s So-Called Innocence? Or about the NIE?

By: masaccio

masaccio — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:22:00 +0000

Olbermann pointed out that Brownback, who is scheduled for retirement or some equivalent, agreed to stay on as long as he was needed to handle the case.

By: selise

selise — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:52:00 +0000

i posted mp3 audio files of yesterday’s house foreign affairs hearing with glenn fine and also tuesday’s senate commerce committee hearing on energy market manipulation with soros and greenburger. there are also links to the committee webstreams.

By: kspena

kspena — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:38:34 +0000

OT-Rizko (sp) verdict in 10 minutes (CNN)

By: Leen

Leen — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:59:18 +0000

I’m with you Bmaz. I was terribly torn up by Hillary’s vote for the 2002 war resolution and the Kyl Lieberman amendment, I do think the Clintons exposed some of the holes in the Obama campaigns ”hope and change” machine.

I still think Obama has to take her on as VP to win the vote of blue collar America.

By: LS

LS — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:05:52 +0000

From Text of Libby’s testimony at #103,

”Well, the president had told me to use it and declassified it for me to use with Judith Miller……..”

”…I had talked to Judith Miller about the NIE at the president’s, you know, at, at the president’s approval relayed to me through the vice president”….

So…which was it? Sounds like it was the President who told him, because he stutters and tries to cover the Pres by subsequently saying that it was through the VP.

By: bmaz

bmaz — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:48:13 +0000

You may or may not be right on the effect of Brownback’s sacking; time will clearly tell. But as to the credibility, health and appearance of due process as a whole, it was an incredibly insane and horrid act. In light of the Davis revelations and other obvious inconsistencies and rigging of the process, to blithely take that act against Brownback on the heals of his necessary rulings of fairness, is simply beyond the pale. It has all the looks, appearances and features of one of the most, and maybe the most, hideous manipulations of judicial process I have ever seen in my life.

By: emptywheel

emptywheel — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:04:56 +0000

It says SH M/GT or something like that. But otherwise, yes. There’s an explanation for all this in the grand jury testimony.

By: JohnLopresti

JohnLopresti — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:04:31 +0000

Maybe Fine will add inflections in the hearing. Given the pace of officials bailing from the administration, Waxman can complete the redactions by waiting for the books to publish. I continue to think the torcha issue was the wedge that divided the term1 administration, Powell unable to tolerate the implications for ucmj of the neoTortcha policy, Rice hoping for the challenge of State rather than ratifying NSC’s complicity in tocha, and Ashcroft the gossamer protector of righteous individuals policy proponent preferring to change careers rather than do what WHC was asking OLC to do, and the political wing of the WH taking a while to rollout a congress strategy. I could even see the showTrials as the apogee in the strategy for letting the final IG information reach the public at a time of more protean public sentiment, as if somehow the tocha paradigm would be subsumed within more fervid public sentiment, so Bush could pass a baton within his own party. It is less than clear Brownback’s departure will support those dissociated partisan ends. I wonder if Rove is one of the recipients of the courtesy copy of this recent 11c appeal amici brief undersigned by a gagle of former state attorneys general.

By: bmaz

bmaz — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:42:14 +0000

Pete – Hold your firewater. I believe my bargain was that if what I predicted was not the case within a week from now (so a week from last Saturday), I would stand and take all of your best shots. We are still within that time period, and I still stand behind what I think is going on and the information that I personally base it on. The race is over, she will do what she needs to do for the good of Obama and the party; just give her the air and elbow room to do it. And with that I will end my discussion of these politics on this thread.

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:22:11 +0000

I don’t know if it’s just me but the images for the buttons,the tabs reply don’t often display today and last night. I wonder if it has to do with some of the server adjustments. The graphics load perfectly on every other site so I dunno.

These are great threads and after trying to figure out what Clinton thinks she is now doing (psst Bmaz the game is over and she’s not going gracefully to the locker room think Giants have trophy but Patriots won’t get off the field–tell me the rationale for that please) and she’s not ever been under consideration for VP nor will she) I just wanted to update the part of the Siegelman appeal where a motion was filed at the 11th Circuit asking that the appeals of the sentences be dropped.

Link buttons and the rest don’t work for me anymore so url which does work is:

Prosecutors drop appeal of Siegelman and Scrushy sentences

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s.....TE=DEFAULT