Comments on: Check Out ACLU’s Relaunched Blog http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:40:31 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: timbo http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70743 timbo Fri, 23 May 2008 23:08:17 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70743 <p>OT: Marcy, check out the following quote from Yoo’s memos:</p> <p>“”Unless Congress made a clear statement in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that it sought to restrict presidential authority to conduct warrantless searches in the national security area — which it has not — then the statute must be construed to avoid [such] a reading.”"</p> <p>Um, so, looks like he thinks warrantless wiretapping is not unreasonable search? Note that he is arguing that even though it is specifically states it is the exclusive law covering this sort of wiretapping, Yoo is saying that it doesn’t cover warrantless wiretapping!</p> <p>Timbo</p> OT: Marcy, check out the following quote from Yoo’s memos:

“”Unless Congress made a clear statement in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that it sought to restrict presidential authority to conduct warrantless searches in the national security area — which it has not — then the statute must be construed to avoid [such] a reading.”"

Um, so, looks like he thinks warrantless wiretapping is not unreasonable search? Note that he is arguing that even though it is specifically states it is the exclusive law covering this sort of wiretapping, Yoo is saying that it doesn’t cover warrantless wiretapping!

Timbo

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70721 emptywheel Fri, 23 May 2008 20:16:57 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70721 <p>Maybe they just have a policy of using the word “Cheney” every time they mean “torture.”</p> Maybe they just have a policy of using the word “Cheney” every time they mean “torture.”

]]> By: masaccio http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70720 masaccio Fri, 23 May 2008 20:13:47 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70720 <p>WilliamOckham, I am obsessing too. I’m at the office, but later I will put in a comment on them as far as I have gotten, which is around page 90. They bear thinking.</p> WilliamOckham, I am obsessing too. I’m at the office, but later I will put in a comment on them as far as I have gotten, which is around page 90. They bear thinking.

]]> By: MrWhy http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70699 MrWhy Fri, 23 May 2008 18:41:07 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70699 <p><strong>Relocate </strong> fits very well, except the last part of <strong>Zubaydah </strong>doesn’t align with <strong>an</strong></p> Relocate fits very well, except the last part of Zubaydah doesn’t align with an

]]> By: phred http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70692 phred Fri, 23 May 2008 18:29:22 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70692 <p>Thanks for the explanation, now I get it.</p> <p>Yep, that is indeed the question about Ward. I can’t wait to hear the answer…</p> Thanks for the explanation, now I get it.

Yep, that is indeed the question about Ward. I can’t wait to hear the answer…

]]> By: WilliamOckham http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70688 WilliamOckham Fri, 23 May 2008 18:21:38 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70688 <p>They were trying (so they say) to get him out of the hands of the DOD. They proposed giving him to the CIA. The NSC was actively coordinating the <strike>torture</strike> interrogation of CIA detainees. The OIG report makes it clear that the DOJ official (Nahmias) who had the draft document describing the proposal said that it was a letter for the AG to send to the NSC (see p. 92 of the report).</p> <p>As to Ward, you have to ask yourself, where did the $1-2 million dollars go?</p> They were trying (so they say) to get him out of the hands of the DOD. They proposed giving him to the CIA. The NSC was actively coordinating the torture interrogation of CIA detainees. The OIG report makes it clear that the DOJ official (Nahmias) who had the draft document describing the proposal said that it was a letter for the AG to send to the NSC (see p. 92 of the report).

As to Ward, you have to ask yourself, where did the $1-2 million dollars go?

]]> By: phred http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70685 phred Fri, 23 May 2008 18:12:40 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70685 <p>Why would FBI/DoJ need to make such a proposal to NSC? I don’t quite follow that.</p> <p>As for Ward, I can’t help hoping he was running a shell game redirecting funds to different campaigns in violation of campaign finance laws, so that he can take a bunch of corrupt Rethugs with him as he goes. But, I suspect he is just another corrupt Republican embezzling other people’s money for his own personal gain. Sigh. Such a lack of imagination.</p> Why would FBI/DoJ need to make such a proposal to NSC? I don’t quite follow that.

As for Ward, I can’t help hoping he was running a shell game redirecting funds to different campaigns in violation of campaign finance laws, so that he can take a bunch of corrupt Rethugs with him as he goes. But, I suspect he is just another corrupt Republican embezzling other people’s money for his own personal gain. Sigh. Such a lack of imagination.

]]> By: WilliamOckham http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70681 WilliamOckham Fri, 23 May 2008 18:02:47 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70681 <p>On another tangent:</p> <p>More Republican <a href="http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=cqmidday-000002883434&parm1=5&cpage=1" rel="nofollow">campaign funds missing</a> and blamed on Ward.</p> On another tangent:

More Republican campaign funds missing and blamed on Ward.

]]> By: WilliamOckham http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70679 WilliamOckham Fri, 23 May 2008 17:56:34 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70679 <p>Best fits so far:</p> <p>Proposal To <strong>NSC For</strong> Al-Qahtani To Be Interrogated Using an Alternative Debriefing Model of the Sort Used on Zubaydah</p> <p>Proposal To <strong>Transfer</strong> Al-Qahtani To Be Interrogated Using an Alternative Debriefing Model of the Sort Used on Zubaydah</p> Best fits so far:

Proposal To NSC For Al-Qahtani To Be Interrogated Using an Alternative Debriefing Model of the Sort Used on Zubaydah

Proposal To Transfer Al-Qahtani To Be Interrogated Using an Alternative Debriefing Model of the Sort Used on Zubaydah

]]> By: phred http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-70674 phred Fri, 23 May 2008 17:41:06 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/23/check-out-aclus-relaunched-blog/#comment-70674 <p>Thanks for the letter count. If you are thinking of a proper name for the blank, I’m curious whether the group of high level officials (Rice, Tenet, Ashcroft, etc.) that met to discuss the treatment of each detainee had a name/acronym that would fit. I could see why that might be redacted, to hide their direct involvement.</p> Thanks for the letter count. If you are thinking of a proper name for the blank, I’m curious whether the group of high level officials (Rice, Tenet, Ashcroft, etc.) that met to discuss the treatment of each detainee had a name/acronym that would fit. I could see why that might be redacted, to hide their direct involvement.

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