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		<title>By: scribe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You note:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the military legal world, there isn’t the professional and social separation that’s typical of prosecutors and defense counsel in the civilian world. It’s a bit more like English barristers in that a JAG could be prosecuting one case and later defending another. They also report to a common chain of command.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not exactly so.  One has to look closely at the ”rating chain”, i.e., who writes the individual lawyer’s evaluation reports.  In the ordinary case, the prosecution lawyers work for the Staff Judge Advocate, the CG’s chief legal advisor.  Their evaluations go in a chain to the SJA.  OTOH, defense counsel work for what used to be called the ”Trial Defense Service”, which has a separate rating chain and chain of command running back to the head of TRial Defense Service back at Main JAG in DC.  Defense counsel, ordinarily, are therefore not subject to any pressure - real or imagined - from the local commander or the SJA.  Unlike the prosecutors, who work for the local commander through the SJA.  Judges, too, are an entirely different chain, also separate from any command or rating by the local commander or the SJA.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While individual lawyers (particularly when they are junior) will often spend part of a tour prosecuting and part defending, at any particular time all their work is either prosecuting or defending.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d suggest its a little more like a small-town bar association, where everyone knows everyone and they all fight with each other in a relatively-collegial manner, changing sides as the needs/objectives of their clients dictate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The point of all of which is creating an environment and structure where this takes place:  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That said, there are rules that define their responsibilities when fulfilling each role. As quoted in EW’s piece, one of them prohibits those senior in the chain of command from exercising undue influence over prosecution or defense counsel’s work. In effect, it prohibits putting a thumb on the scale of justice. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You get it a little wrong when you say: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hartmann was brought in because he’s outside the normal chain of command and not beholden to it or its traditions for his career, money or future. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s not the chain of command he was outside of.  Rather, it was the trial side of the JAG community as a whole that he was outside of. And, he was brought in for precisely that purpose - so he could be Dick’s minion carrying the Torture Corps plan into effect.  This, of course, was correct, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In practice, he worked for its political heads, part of Cheney’s shadow government. Even who Hartmann technically worked for and when is fuzzy, something not often seen in an organization with bright line command structures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fuzziness of the organizational chart is a hallmark of a Cheney operation - both in this dimension and not in it, at the same time.  Just like his Fourth Branch concept, and giving orders which must be obeyed, in the absence of any authority to do so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You note:</p>
<p>In the military legal world, there isn’t the professional and social separation that’s typical of prosecutors and defense counsel in the civilian world. It’s a bit more like English barristers in that a JAG could be prosecuting one case and later defending another. They also report to a common chain of command.</p>
<p>Not exactly so.  One has to look closely at the ”rating chain”, i.e., who writes the individual lawyer’s evaluation reports.  In the ordinary case, the prosecution lawyers work for the Staff Judge Advocate, the CG’s chief legal advisor.  Their evaluations go in a chain to the SJA.  OTOH, defense counsel work for what used to be called the ”Trial Defense Service”, which has a separate rating chain and chain of command running back to the head of TRial Defense Service back at Main JAG in DC.  Defense counsel, ordinarily, are therefore not subject to any pressure &#8211; real or imagined &#8211; from the local commander or the SJA.  Unlike the prosecutors, who work for the local commander through the SJA.  Judges, too, are an entirely different chain, also separate from any command or rating by the local commander or the SJA.  </p>
<p>While individual lawyers (particularly when they are junior) will often spend part of a tour prosecuting and part defending, at any particular time all their work is either prosecuting or defending.  </p>
<p>I’d suggest its a little more like a small-town bar association, where everyone knows everyone and they all fight with each other in a relatively-collegial manner, changing sides as the needs/objectives of their clients dictate.</p>
<p>The point of all of which is creating an environment and structure where this takes place:  </p>
<p>That said, there are rules that define their responsibilities when fulfilling each role. As quoted in EW’s piece, one of them prohibits those senior in the chain of command from exercising undue influence over prosecution or defense counsel’s work. In effect, it prohibits putting a thumb on the scale of justice. </p>
<p>You get it a little wrong when you say: </p>
<p>Hartmann was brought in because he’s outside the normal chain of command and not beholden to it or its traditions for his career, money or future. </p>
<p>It’s not the chain of command he was outside of.  Rather, it was the trial side of the JAG community as a whole that he was outside of. And, he was brought in for precisely that purpose &#8211; so he could be Dick’s minion carrying the Torture Corps plan into effect.  This, of course, was correct, too.</p>
<p>In practice, he worked for its political heads, part of Cheney’s shadow government. Even who Hartmann technically worked for and when is fuzzy, something not often seen in an organization with bright line command structures.</p>
<p>The fuzziness of the organizational chart is a hallmark of a Cheney operation &#8211; both in this dimension and not in it, at the same time.  Just like his Fourth Branch concept, and giving orders which must be obeyed, in the absence of any authority to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I dunno, maybe I am missing something here, but why is the LA clamoring sou loudly to get the “charges returned”?  Seems kind of hard to unring that bell now.  Maybe the defense attorneys ought to just draft up a couple of cute little motions, maybe some type of civil suit too, and attach the damn thing to all of them as an exhibit; kind of constructively interplead the thing a few different ways so that it is of record and then say “By the way, you want this thing back? Here it is; thanks dude”!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, maybe I am missing something here, but why is the LA clamoring sou loudly to get the “charges returned”?  Seems kind of hard to unring that bell now.  Maybe the defense attorneys ought to just draft up a couple of cute little motions, maybe some type of civil suit too, and attach the damn thing to all of them as an exhibit; kind of constructively interplead the thing a few different ways so that it is of record and then say “By the way, you want this thing back? Here it is; thanks dude”!</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for that.  That chain of command imposes on the CA, not just its counsel, an impossible conflict between objectively finding facts and determining law, and zealously advocating exclusively the prosecution’s case.  It was one of the ways Rumsfeld’s team tried to control the verdicts.  Interesting that England and Haynes felt unable to impose on defense counsel that same chain of command.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It speaks volumes about how much political control the administration sought over a process that ought to have been about determining criminal liability involving novel, complex and difficult facts.  It reveals that they intend the process to avoid planting political and legal liability for serial heinous acts at the feet of the Bush administration.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that.  That chain of command imposes on the CA, not just its counsel, an impossible conflict between objectively finding facts and determining law, and zealously advocating exclusively the prosecution’s case.  It was one of the ways Rumsfeld’s team tried to control the verdicts.  Interesting that England and Haynes felt unable to impose on defense counsel that same chain of command.  </p>
<p>It speaks volumes about how much political control the administration sought over a process that ought to have been about determining criminal liability involving novel, complex and difficult facts.  It reveals that they intend the process to avoid planting political and legal liability for serial heinous acts at the feet of the Bush administration.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The state secrets side of the showTrials is going to have a new crimp from the inadvertency factor behind the email; maybe defense needs to examine the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/att/alharamainamicusanswer.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;still sealed&lt;/a&gt; relevancy of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20071119.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;evidentiary issue of accidentality&lt;/a&gt; from alHaramain, the wiretap without warrant case.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state secrets side of the showTrials is going to have a new crimp from the inadvertency factor behind the email; maybe defense needs to examine the <a href="http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/att/alharamainamicusanswer.pdf" rel="nofollow">still sealed</a> relevancy of the <a href="http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20071119.html" rel="nofollow">evidentiary issue of accidentality</a> from alHaramain, the wiretap without warrant case.</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
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		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The letter of appointment of Hartmann, dated October 3, 2007, recites that he is to supervise the Chief Prosecutor. It then says:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;While supervising the Chief Prosecutor you will insure that you maintain the ability to objectively and independently provide cogent legal advice to the Director and the Convening Authority.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The letter of appointment of Morris Davis, Chief Prosecutor was signed the next day. It says:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Chief Prosecutor reports to the Legal Advisor to the Convening Authority (Legal Advisor), consistent with the authorities cited above. The Legal Advisor shall directly supervise you in the performance of your duties as Chief Prosecutor. The Legal Advisor, as your reporting senior, shall fulfill all performance evaluation responsibilities associated with the function of a direct supervisor in accordance with your Military Service’s performance evaluation regulations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These remarkable instructions were given by Gordon England, Deputy Secretary of Defense. No wonder Davis resigned.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(The documents are at the link in the main post.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The letter of appointment of Hartmann, dated October 3, 2007, recites that he is to supervise the Chief Prosecutor. It then says:
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<blockquote><p>While supervising the Chief Prosecutor you will insure that you maintain the ability to objectively and independently provide cogent legal advice to the Director and the Convening Authority.</p></blockquote>
<p>The letter of appointment of Morris Davis, Chief Prosecutor was signed the next day. It says:
</p>
<blockquote><p>The Chief Prosecutor reports to the Legal Advisor to the Convening Authority (Legal Advisor), consistent with the authorities cited above. The Legal Advisor shall directly supervise you in the performance of your duties as Chief Prosecutor. The Legal Advisor, as your reporting senior, shall fulfill all performance evaluation responsibilities associated with the function of a direct supervisor in accordance with your Military Service’s performance evaluation regulations.</p></blockquote>
<p>These remarkable instructions were given by Gordon England, Deputy Secretary of Defense. No wonder Davis resigned.</p>
<p>(The documents are at the link in the main post.)</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the military legal world, there isn’t the professional and social separation that’s typical of prosecutors and defense counsel in the civilian world.  It’s a bit more like English barristers in that a JAG could be prosecuting one case and later defending another.  They also report to a common chain of command.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That said, there are rules that define their responsibilities when fulfilling each role.  As quoted in EW’s piece, one of them prohibits those senior in the chain of command from exercising undue influence over prosecution or defense counsel’s work.  In effect, it prohibits putting a thumb on the scale of justice.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hartmann was brought in because he’s outside the normal chain of command and not beholden to it or its traditions for his career, money or future.  In practice, he worked for its political heads, part of Cheney’s shadow government.  Even who Hartmann technically worked for and when is fuzzy, something not often seen in an organization with bright line command structures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As counsel for the Convening Authority, Hartmann should have operated like a judge’s chief clerk, focusing on the administration, processes and functioning of the CA, including its interaction with both prosecution and defense.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Instead, Hartmann acted like a typical Bush lobbyist brought in to run an agency whose regulations threatened the profits of his corporate clients.  Via his work for the CA, which gave him authorized access to certain aspects of both the prosecution’s and defense’s work, he attempted to control one and stifle the other.  He came late in the game and got caught.  Had he joined a few years earlier, had Bush not dilly-dallied as usual, we’d have never heard of Hartmann, only the “convictions” of the “worst of the worst”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the military legal world, there isn’t the professional and social separation that’s typical of prosecutors and defense counsel in the civilian world.  It’s a bit more like English barristers in that a JAG could be prosecuting one case and later defending another.  They also report to a common chain of command.</p>
<p>That said, there are rules that define their responsibilities when fulfilling each role.  As quoted in EW’s piece, one of them prohibits those senior in the chain of command from exercising undue influence over prosecution or defense counsel’s work.  In effect, it prohibits putting a thumb on the scale of justice.  </p>
<p>Hartmann was brought in because he’s outside the normal chain of command and not beholden to it or its traditions for his career, money or future.  In practice, he worked for its political heads, part of Cheney’s shadow government.  Even who Hartmann technically worked for and when is fuzzy, something not often seen in an organization with bright line command structures.</p>
<p>As counsel for the Convening Authority, Hartmann should have operated like a judge’s chief clerk, focusing on the administration, processes and functioning of the CA, including its interaction with both prosecution and defense.  </p>
<p>Instead, Hartmann acted like a typical Bush lobbyist brought in to run an agency whose regulations threatened the profits of his corporate clients.  Via his work for the CA, which gave him authorized access to certain aspects of both the prosecution’s and defense’s work, he attempted to control one and stifle the other.  He came late in the game and got caught.  Had he joined a few years earlier, had Bush not dilly-dallied as usual, we’d have never heard of Hartmann, only the “convictions” of the “worst of the worst”.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I haven’t the information to know who Mr. Berrigan’s clients might have been, nor do I know the specific rules governing the return of prosecution evidence, communications or draft charges.  bmaz or lhp or someone else should chime in here. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But Berrigan certainly had obligations to defendants whose information he was given.  He didn’t pick up that information off the street or from prosecution counsel in the bar.  He acquired it in service to the defense.  He would have been obligated, ie, not to disclose that information and to use it and his best abilities to argue in their favor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That he immediately advised the prosecution he had acquired this information and promptly sought advice from his governing bar about his obligation to return it, if any, speaks volumes.  Even if ultimately proven wrong, he did the right thing at the right time.  Something one could rarely say about any lawyer working for George Bush.  Bush, of course, immediately sought advice from his DOJ lawyers about whether his &lt;em&gt;verschaerfte Vernehmungen&lt;/em&gt; were legal.  Except in his case, he told them what to say.  A different use of the law entirely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven’t the information to know who Mr. Berrigan’s clients might have been, nor do I know the specific rules governing the return of prosecution evidence, communications or draft charges.  bmaz or lhp or someone else should chime in here. </p>
<p>But Berrigan certainly had obligations to defendants whose information he was given.  He didn’t pick up that information off the street or from prosecution counsel in the bar.  He acquired it in service to the defense.  He would have been obligated, ie, not to disclose that information and to use it and his best abilities to argue in their favor.</p>
<p>That he immediately advised the prosecution he had acquired this information and promptly sought advice from his governing bar about his obligation to return it, if any, speaks volumes.  Even if ultimately proven wrong, he did the right thing at the right time.  Something one could rarely say about any lawyer working for George Bush.  Bush, of course, immediately sought advice from his DOJ lawyers about whether his <em>verschaerfte Vernehmungen</em> were legal.  Except in his case, he told them what to say.  A different use of the law entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: BoxTurtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoxTurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think that we’re going to lose every one of these cases, even the ones where we should be able to prove guilt. I don’t see how the court can accept evidence obtained under torture and I don’t see how the other evidence can’t be irrevocably tainted. Bush will hold them regardless, but what’s Obama to do? He’ll be roasted alive if he releases any of the truly guilty. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Boxturtle (President Obama, the Executive Desk is buried under that Reeking Pile President left for you)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we’re going to lose every one of these cases, even the ones where we should be able to prove guilt. I don’t see how the court can accept evidence obtained under torture and I don’t see how the other evidence can’t be irrevocably tainted. Bush will hold them regardless, but what’s Obama to do? He’ll be roasted alive if he releases any of the truly guilty. </p>
<p>Boxturtle (President Obama, the Executive Desk is buried under that Reeking Pile President left for you)</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reserve Air Force Officer Hartmann was brought in not because the combined services JAG officers were too few, or unschooled, or busy with other matters.  He was brought in because they were unwilling blithely to ignore the law and traditions of their services in fealty to a single political party.  They quietly and professionally rebelled from those demands, within the best traditions of their services, a step not taken lightly or without knowledge of its potential consequences.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JAG officers take seriously their services’ obligation to obey the commands of civilian government, regardless of which party from time to time has control over it.  But without the law, including the UCMJ, they’re just mercenaries for hire at a tuppence wage compared to their former peers at Blackwater.  They take their obligations seriously because they represent people who face death and injury traveling to work every day, who must be able coldly but reservedly to send men and women to their deaths on short notice because their country’s interests demand it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Corporate lawyer Mr. Hartmann marches to a different drumbeat, that of money, power and the conflation of business and government that generates it.  In that world, law lowers profits, except when it can be used to attack an enemy.  How fitting that this refreshing resistance to partisan political gamesmanship places Mr. Hartmann at odds with professional service personnel.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reserve Air Force Officer Hartmann was brought in not because the combined services JAG officers were too few, or unschooled, or busy with other matters.  He was brought in because they were unwilling blithely to ignore the law and traditions of their services in fealty to a single political party.  They quietly and professionally rebelled from those demands, within the best traditions of their services, a step not taken lightly or without knowledge of its potential consequences.  </p>
<p>JAG officers take seriously their services’ obligation to obey the commands of civilian government, regardless of which party from time to time has control over it.  But without the law, including the UCMJ, they’re just mercenaries for hire at a tuppence wage compared to their former peers at Blackwater.  They take their obligations seriously because they represent people who face death and injury traveling to work every day, who must be able coldly but reservedly to send men and women to their deaths on short notice because their country’s interests demand it.</p>
<p>Corporate lawyer Mr. Hartmann marches to a different drumbeat, that of money, power and the conflation of business and government that generates it.  In that world, law lowers profits, except when it can be used to attack an enemy.  How fitting that this refreshing resistance to partisan political gamesmanship places Mr. Hartmann at odds with professional service personnel.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I think that’s the implication. Though by his claimed role, Hartmann was supposed to review the charges (after they were drawn, not before) and advise Crawford whether to accept them or not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The email is included at the link, but not what was attached to it. Qahtani is still there–I was wondering if there was a time earlier in the process when people advocated not charging Qahtani with this bunch, but they had decided at least to charge him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think that’s the implication. Though by his claimed role, Hartmann was supposed to review the charges (after they were drawn, not before) and advise Crawford whether to accept them or not.</p>
<p>The email is included at the link, but not what was attached to it. Qahtani is still there–I was wondering if there was a time earlier in the process when people advocated not charging Qahtani with this bunch, but they had decided at least to charge him.</p>
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