Comments on: Conyers to Rove: No, It’s Not an Open Book Test… http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:46:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: perris http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-69055 perris Thu, 15 May 2008 18:59:29 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-69055 <blockquote><p>the republican brand is trasheroo</p> </blockquote> <p>trasheroo</p> <p>trasherama</p> <p>trashdomingo</p> <p>trashamondo</p> <p>trashabundo</p> <p>errr</p> <p>bushed</p>

the republican brand is trasheroo

trasheroo

trasherama

trashdomingo

trashamondo

trashabundo

errr

bushed

]]> By: perris http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-69054 perris Thu, 15 May 2008 18:58:21 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-69054 <p>the thing is we have a shot at races that nobody thinks are competitive</p> <p>the republican brand is trasheroo</p> the thing is we have a shot at races that nobody thinks are competitive

the republican brand is trasheroo

]]> By: perris http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-69053 perris Thu, 15 May 2008 18:56:47 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-69053 <blockquote><p>we’re gonna give the repuglitards the cange THEY deserve</p> </blockquote> <p>that’s a great slogan for obama, I hope soneone suggests it</p>

we’re gonna give the repuglitards the cange THEY deserve

that’s a great slogan for obama, I hope soneone suggests it

]]> By: perris http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-69050 perris Thu, 15 May 2008 18:51:53 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-69050 <blockquote><p>He’s stalling and trying to get the best possible situation for himself.</p></blockquote> <p>he’s not stalling at all</p> <p>he is going to defy congress and congress is going to do nothing about it</p>

He’s stalling and trying to get the best possible situation for himself.

he’s not stalling at all

he is going to defy congress and congress is going to do nothing about it

]]> By: 4jkb4ia http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-68940 4jkb4ia Thu, 15 May 2008 14:44:27 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-68940 <p>The Democrats would have to win <i>every competitive race</i> for the Senate to get 67. Some of those competitive races involve actual incumbents like Susan Collins.</p> The Democrats would have to win every competitive race for the Senate to get 67. Some of those competitive races involve actual incumbents like Susan Collins.

]]> By: Anna http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-68928 Anna Thu, 15 May 2008 13:43:08 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-68928 <p>Thanks EW. Let’s hope the “frogmarch” continues for the sake of justice</p> Thanks EW. Let’s hope the “frogmarch” continues for the sake of justice

]]> By: MarieRoget http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-68921 MarieRoget Thu, 15 May 2008 11:50:21 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-68921 <p>Above all, Conyers needs to hold some kind of team meeting on how to proceed w/a witness as important as Rove. No fumbling the ball on this one- game plan needs to be in place. Artur Davis, Alabamian who knows the Siegelman situation well & has the facts @ his fingertips, should be point man. Conyers needs to put his foot down on that** </p> <p>Here’s one possible line of persuasion:<br /> -During 1st round of questioning @ least half the Dems give over their minutes to Artur Davis. All available Dem committee members will show up for Uncle Karl, so that’ll be plenty of mins.<br /> -On 2nd round Dems retain all their individual minutes, & really have a chance to skewer Rove by building on the careful groundwork laid by Davis. All Dem committee members get to look brilliant by using previous Davis q&a to dismantle Rove’s answers.<br /> -3rd round would be great w/a witness as meaty as Rove (pun intended). Scheduling this hearing so there is a decent amount of time for it would be nice, if @ all possible.</p> <p>**Conyers might quote a little background from Artur Davis’ Congressional website bio:</p> <p>“From 1994 to 1998, Congressman Davis established a 98 percent conviction rate as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Middle District of Alabama <strong>fighting white-collar criminals</strong> and the scourge of drugs and violence on our streets and in our neighborhoods.” (my bold)</p> Above all, Conyers needs to hold some kind of team meeting on how to proceed w/a witness as important as Rove. No fumbling the ball on this one- game plan needs to be in place. Artur Davis, Alabamian who knows the Siegelman situation well & has the facts @ his fingertips, should be point man. Conyers needs to put his foot down on that**

Here’s one possible line of persuasion:
-During 1st round of questioning @ least half the Dems give over their minutes to Artur Davis. All available Dem committee members will show up for Uncle Karl, so that’ll be plenty of mins.
-On 2nd round Dems retain all their individual minutes, & really have a chance to skewer Rove by building on the careful groundwork laid by Davis. All Dem committee members get to look brilliant by using previous Davis q&a to dismantle Rove’s answers.
-3rd round would be great w/a witness as meaty as Rove (pun intended). Scheduling this hearing so there is a decent amount of time for it would be nice, if @ all possible.

**Conyers might quote a little background from Artur Davis’ Congressional website bio:

“From 1994 to 1998, Congressman Davis established a 98 percent conviction rate as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Middle District of Alabama fighting white-collar criminals and the scourge of drugs and violence on our streets and in our neighborhoods.” (my bold)

]]> By: freepatriot http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-68919 freepatriot Thu, 15 May 2008 07:15:29 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-68919 <p>ah, but it DOES have to be credible</p> <p>if the Democrats win 67 seats in the senate, we can start impeaching and removing Supreme Court Justices</p> <p>all of the repuglitard revolution can be wiped out with 5 votes to impeach and five votes to remove</p> <p>you people think I’m crazy</p> <p>but we just took a heavily repuglitatd seat mississippi BY 8 FUCKING POINTS, toe tapping senator craig just came out against veterens, and the stupid fucks at the rnc decided their anti-Obama campaign is showing no problems, and did I mention that arlen “magic bullet” specter just described the 9/11 commision (cept he was trying to criticize the NFL or something)</p> <p>say bye bye to scalia and scalito. mr roberts, we hardly knew ya, but we’ve seen enough of you to waana say goodbye, and mr thomas, being impeached for gross incompetence is no way to go thru the rest of you life, and I hope that works out for you</p> <p>we’re gonna give the repuglitards the cange THEY deserve</p> <p>btw, presidential pardons can be undone by a Constitutional Amendmant, and America is about that pissed of at george bush RIGHT NOW</p> <p>ever seen what 300 million pissed off people can do to a ranch in Paraguay ???</p> ah, but it DOES have to be credible

if the Democrats win 67 seats in the senate, we can start impeaching and removing Supreme Court Justices

all of the repuglitard revolution can be wiped out with 5 votes to impeach and five votes to remove

you people think I’m crazy

but we just took a heavily repuglitatd seat mississippi BY 8 FUCKING POINTS, toe tapping senator craig just came out against veterens, and the stupid fucks at the rnc decided their anti-Obama campaign is showing no problems, and did I mention that arlen “magic bullet” specter just described the 9/11 commision (cept he was trying to criticize the NFL or something)

say bye bye to scalia and scalito. mr roberts, we hardly knew ya, but we’ve seen enough of you to waana say goodbye, and mr thomas, being impeached for gross incompetence is no way to go thru the rest of you life, and I hope that works out for you

we’re gonna give the repuglitards the cange THEY deserve

btw, presidential pardons can be undone by a Constitutional Amendmant, and America is about that pissed of at george bush RIGHT NOW

ever seen what 300 million pissed off people can do to a ranch in Paraguay ???

]]> By: bobschacht http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-68891 bobschacht Thu, 15 May 2008 00:18:08 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-68891 <blockquote><p>I think the biggest issue in this is that K-K-K-Karl just does not know what the truth is… and if he ever did, he has forgotten it. That leaves him wide open for trouble.</p></blockquote> <p>Well, the trouble is that there is their constructed “reality,” but then there’s this real reality, which is about to bite them on the ass. KKKarl has trouble remembering which is which.</p> <p>Bob in HI</p>

I think the biggest issue in this is that K-K-K-Karl just does not know what the truth is… and if he ever did, he has forgotten it. That leaves him wide open for trouble.

Well, the trouble is that there is their constructed “reality,” but then there’s this real reality, which is about to bite them on the ass. KKKarl has trouble remembering which is which.

Bob in HI

]]> By: GeorgeSimian http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/comment-page-1/#comment-68875 GeorgeSimian Wed, 14 May 2008 22:57:55 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/conyers-to-rove-no-its-not-an-open-book-test/#comment-68875 <p>It doesn’t have to be credible. It wasn’t credible to pardon Libby. It wasn’t credible that Gonzo forgot everything. Rove can go in there and answer the questions he decides he wants to answer, thereby giving him an opportunity to put others in a bad light, or whatever. And the rest, he’ll claim EP, or secrecy or he can even, though I doubt he will, pull the Gonzo special and not recall anything. He could even pull on Condi and twist words around to avoid answering anything.</p> It doesn’t have to be credible. It wasn’t credible to pardon Libby. It wasn’t credible that Gonzo forgot everything. Rove can go in there and answer the questions he decides he wants to answer, thereby giving him an opportunity to put others in a bad light, or whatever. And the rest, he’ll claim EP, or secrecy or he can even, though I doubt he will, pull the Gonzo special and not recall anything. He could even pull on Condi and twist words around to avoid answering anything.

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