Comments on: Two Days, Two Resignations http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: radiofreewill http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67369 radiofreewill Sat, 03 May 2008 02:05:16 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67369 <p>We’ll see if Addington pulls a Rove - “Sure, I’ll testify” - and then throws-up his hands on Monday in a “What could I do?” gesture, as he mumbles that the White House has Muzzled him, despite his best intentions.</p> <p>If he does ’show up’ on Tuesday, I wouldn’t mind if the first question to him was: “Did you watch and listen to the Torture Tapes?”</p> <p>Followed up with:</p> <p>“What then was your position and rationale on the Destruction of the Torture Tapes?”</p> <p>And:</p> <p>“It’s clear from news accounts that you and others in the Inner Circle discussed the Enhanced Interrogation Program in Depth, but Who Legally Green-Lighted, and Who Legally Ordered, the Destruction of the Torture Tapes?”</p> We’ll see if Addington pulls a Rove – “Sure, I’ll testify” – and then throws-up his hands on Monday in a “What could I do?” gesture, as he mumbles that the White House has Muzzled him, despite his best intentions.

If he does ’show up’ on Tuesday, I wouldn’t mind if the first question to him was: “Did you watch and listen to the Torture Tapes?”

Followed up with:

“What then was your position and rationale on the Destruction of the Torture Tapes?”

And:

“It’s clear from news accounts that you and others in the Inner Circle discussed the Enhanced Interrogation Program in Depth, but Who Legally Green-Lighted, and Who Legally Ordered, the Destruction of the Torture Tapes?”

]]> By: sailmaker http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67355 sailmaker Fri, 02 May 2008 22:48:10 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67355 <p>Given that Addington ‘may’ show up to testify next Tuesday, and that <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0219936520080502" rel="nofollow"> ‘the White House is contemplating closing Gitmo’</a> (again, but this time it might really work because they don’t want a Democrat to get credit for the closing), maybe Addington will fall on his sword for Cheney??? </p> <p>Nah. Addington is going to beat back any Congressional criticism of the Unitary Executive, and he’ll pound on his high chair until he gets whatever it is that he wants: Congress will pay him to get the loud, obnoxious, rude, but brilliant Addington, to go away. That’s the way Goldsmith describes him - only Goldsmith doesn’t use adjectives, he uses examples. I just hope that Addington (if he shows) does not want retroactive immunity for the telcoms. </p> <p>The group on the 2002 torture tour seem to be part of the leaked Red Cross report, and are being picked off one by one.</p> Given that Addington ‘may’ show up to testify next Tuesday, and that ‘the White House is contemplating closing Gitmo’ (again, but this time it might really work because they don’t want a Democrat to get credit for the closing), maybe Addington will fall on his sword for Cheney???

Nah. Addington is going to beat back any Congressional criticism of the Unitary Executive, and he’ll pound on his high chair until he gets whatever it is that he wants: Congress will pay him to get the loud, obnoxious, rude, but brilliant Addington, to go away. That’s the way Goldsmith describes him – only Goldsmith doesn’t use adjectives, he uses examples. I just hope that Addington (if he shows) does not want retroactive immunity for the telcoms.

The group on the 2002 torture tour seem to be part of the leaked Red Cross report, and are being picked off one by one.

]]> By: radiofreewill http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67301 radiofreewill Fri, 02 May 2008 14:29:25 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67301 <p>sailmaker - thanks for the info!</p> <p>It really is starting to look like everyone on that Gitmo Trip are witnesses in a Criminal Investigation.</p> <p>I wouldn’t be surprised if Rizzo steps down today…</p> <p>That should isolate the ‘core’ Cabal of Bootlicking, Ex Post Facto Law Writing Lawyers “Servicing Their Masters with Deniability” down to Addington, Gonzo, Miers, Bybee, Yoo, and Haynes.</p> <p>More than likely we’re getting down to The Crew that thought Destroying the Torture Tapes was a Good Idea…</p> sailmaker – thanks for the info!

It really is starting to look like everyone on that Gitmo Trip are witnesses in a Criminal Investigation.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Rizzo steps down today…

That should isolate the ‘core’ Cabal of Bootlicking, Ex Post Facto Law Writing Lawyers “Servicing Their Masters with Deniability” down to Addington, Gonzo, Miers, Bybee, Yoo, and Haynes.

More than likely we’re getting down to The Crew that thought Destroying the Torture Tapes was a Good Idea…

]]> By: sailmaker http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67279 sailmaker Fri, 02 May 2008 02:15:25 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67279 <p>I forgot to mention the obvious: Goldsmith, and Haynes.</p> <p>Haynes, the trip organizer, this last March disappeared to Chevron. </p> <p>Goldsmith is back at <a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/2004/09/08_newfaculty.php" rel="nofollow">Harvard</a>.</p> I forgot to mention the obvious: Goldsmith, and Haynes.

Haynes, the trip organizer, this last March disappeared to Chevron.

Goldsmith is back at Harvard.

]]> By: sailmaker http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67275 sailmaker Fri, 02 May 2008 01:47:32 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67275 <p>Let’s see: Addington, Patrick Philbin, John Rizzo, Fisher, and ’several Pentagon lawyers.’ pages 99-100</p> <p>Addington: Still OVP, from personal lawyer to chief of staff.<br /> Patrick Philbin: was the person referenced in James Comey’s resignation speech as having a career that suffered from Addingtion- suffered for not being sufficiently pro Unitary executive, especially on that night in Ashcroft’s hospital room. Here is Marcy on <a href="http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2007/05/addington_and_t.html" rel="nofollow">him</a>. According to the WSJ he went back to Kirkland in 2005.<br /> John Rizzo: <a href="https://www.cia.gov/about-cia/leadership/john-a-rizzo.html" rel="nofollow">Acting Council with the CIA</a>.</p> <p>So Rizzo and Addington are the leftovers.</p> Let’s see: Addington, Patrick Philbin, John Rizzo, Fisher, and ’several Pentagon lawyers.’ pages 99-100

Addington: Still OVP, from personal lawyer to chief of staff.
Patrick Philbin: was the person referenced in James Comey’s resignation speech as having a career that suffered from Addingtion- suffered for not being sufficiently pro Unitary executive, especially on that night in Ashcroft’s hospital room. Here is Marcy on him. According to the WSJ he went back to Kirkland in 2005.
John Rizzo: Acting Council with the CIA.

So Rizzo and Addington are the leftovers.

]]> By: Hmmm http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67257 Hmmm Fri, 02 May 2008 00:03:29 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67257 <p>I’d forgotten that. Aside from Addington, who else who went on that Gitmo/NC trip still has a job in the Administration?</p> I’d forgotten that. Aside from Addington, who else who went on that Gitmo/NC trip still has a job in the Administration?

]]> By: sailmaker http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67255 sailmaker Thu, 01 May 2008 23:57:12 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67255 <p>Goldsmith in ‘The Terror Presidency’ was on that Sept. 26, 2002 torture tour. He mentioned that Alice Fisher, Addington and some others, about a dozen people went on the tour. He did not write about any particular type or method of torture. By the time they got to Hamdi in Norfolk, Goldsmith wrote that ‘this is why we have habeas corpus’. </p> <p>Goldsmith had been working in the Pentagon with Haynes on torture. He had been dealing with it for quite some time, and apparently thought it was o.k. in some cases. Whatever he saw on the tour convinced him otherwise. </p> <p>I haven’t thought much beyond the fact that I’m glad Alice Fisher is gone, but maybe she put some paper (trail) out about torture that is about to implode?</p> Goldsmith in ‘The Terror Presidency’ was on that Sept. 26, 2002 torture tour. He mentioned that Alice Fisher, Addington and some others, about a dozen people went on the tour. He did not write about any particular type or method of torture. By the time they got to Hamdi in Norfolk, Goldsmith wrote that ‘this is why we have habeas corpus’.

Goldsmith had been working in the Pentagon with Haynes on torture. He had been dealing with it for quite some time, and apparently thought it was o.k. in some cases. Whatever he saw on the tour convinced him otherwise.

I haven’t thought much beyond the fact that I’m glad Alice Fisher is gone, but maybe she put some paper (trail) out about torture that is about to implode?

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67197 bmaz Thu, 01 May 2008 17:19:32 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67197 <p>There is no question whatsoever about Fishers status as an evil torture pod person. None.</p> There is no question whatsoever about Fishers status as an evil torture pod person. None.

]]> By: radiofreewill http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67195 radiofreewill Thu, 01 May 2008 17:12:06 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67195 <p>Alice went to Gitmo in ‘02? Did she see this while she was there?</p> <p>‘This’ is an Amnesty International Ad showing a Real Waterboarding - not for the feint of heart!</p> <p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/05/01/newton.uk.drowning.controversy.cnn" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/video/#/vid.....oversy.cnn</a></p> <p>If Alice did see Waterboarding Five and a Half Years Ago, and she’s just now leaving, then We can be fairly certain She’s Just Another Bushco ‘Law’ Enforcement Snake in a Suit, who can’t personally distinguish right from wrong - looking on at “Slow Motion Murder.”</p> <p>Enjoy your Remaining Lifetime of Civil Suits and Dodging Jail, Alice!</p> Alice went to Gitmo in ‘02? Did she see this while she was there?

‘This’ is an Amnesty International Ad showing a Real Waterboarding – not for the feint of heart!

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/vid…..oversy.cnn

If Alice did see Waterboarding Five and a Half Years Ago, and she’s just now leaving, then We can be fairly certain She’s Just Another Bushco ‘Law’ Enforcement Snake in a Suit, who can’t personally distinguish right from wrong – looking on at “Slow Motion Murder.”

Enjoy your Remaining Lifetime of Civil Suits and Dodging Jail, Alice!

]]> By: DefendOurConstitution http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67192 DefendOurConstitution Thu, 01 May 2008 17:04:46 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/two-days-two-resignations/#comment-67192 <p>EW, we all like you, but if resignations keep coming one a day, you will have to leave the Country more frequently!</p> EW, we all like you, but if resignations keep coming one a day, you will have to leave the Country more frequently!

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