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		<title>By: pdaly</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/wherein-emptywheel-gets-shrill/#comment-67118</link>
		<dc:creator>pdaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 03:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Go Marcy!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;my favorite part was when the conservatives guests wouldn’t stand up for McCain. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree. I thought I saw one of the Republicans on the panel grimace when describing how there was too much ‘diversity’ among the Republican candidates early on in their primary. Diversity is a dirty word…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think EW was shrill, either. I think the other side got &lt;a href=&quot;http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/View.aspx?ciid=1063189&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pwn3d&lt;/a&gt; !&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Marcy!</p>
<blockquote><p>my favorite part was when the conservatives guests wouldn’t stand up for McCain. </p>
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<p>I agree. I thought I saw one of the Republicans on the panel grimace when describing how there was too much ‘diversity’ among the Republican candidates early on in their primary. Diversity is a dirty word…</p>
<p>I don’t think EW was shrill, either. I think the other side got <a href="http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/View.aspx?ciid=1063189" rel="nofollow">pwn3d</a> !</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/wherein-emptywheel-gets-shrill/#comment-67076</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree.  You were great.  You call it shrill, I’ll call it emphatic and a wee bit frustrated but all to a good effect.  The nicely tailored  green suit jacket with round cloth buttons, those smart glasses, that knowing grin… my favorite part was when the conservatives guests wouldn’t stand up for McCain.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that the “Democratic Party is tearing itself to shreds meme” is a net positive for the party.  I don’t believe anyone seriously considering Obama would consider McCain as an alternative.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  You were great.  You call it shrill, I’ll call it emphatic and a wee bit frustrated but all to a good effect.  The nicely tailored  green suit jacket with round cloth buttons, those smart glasses, that knowing grin… my favorite part was when the conservatives guests wouldn’t stand up for McCain.  </p>
<p>I think that the “Democratic Party is tearing itself to shreds meme” is a net positive for the party.  I don’t believe anyone seriously considering Obama would consider McCain as an alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Loo Hoo–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Try playing the quick time mp4, clearing TIFs, clearing your cookies and kill anything you can that’s using CPU and it should play fine.  For some reason this ie one of the more temperamental quick time files CPU wise I’ve seen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loo Hoo–</p>
<p>Try playing the quick time mp4, clearing TIFs, clearing your cookies and kill anything you can that’s using CPU and it should play fine.  For some reason this ie one of the more temperamental quick time files CPU wise I’ve seen.</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/wherein-emptywheel-gets-shrill/#comment-66987</link>
		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First of all, kudos to Off The Record for hosting a Blogger’s Edition of their ‘08 Political coverage! That’s the second time I’ve seen video of the same panel and moderater, and I think the whole package ‘works.’ &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If I were to make a suggestion, it would be to consider modifying the format just slightly to pull-in a little more ‘issue depth.’ Perhaps a prepared, but *live* Left v Right, Point/CounterPoint on a Moderator pre-determined issue would allow the ‘contextualization’ of the issues and lend audience understanding of the roots of the speakers’ passions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A move like that would give all the panelists the opportunity to ‘inflate’ into 3-D as Michiganders with ‘informed’ opinions, and balance the otherwise lively, but somewhat surface-treatment interaction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Passion originating from the depths of reasoned understanding, which you and Lynn on the left have in abundance, is compelling. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s because the format doesn’t really support addressing issue depth, imvho, that the right can get away with their ‘understatements’ - they’re basically ‘flat-facing’ the discussion because they don’t have anything to be passionate about. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go deep on them and stretch them out, or to use a wrestling analogy - they’re turtling, so it’s time to get dynamic and flip their inaction!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The more ‘reasoned passion’ that OTR ‘bakes’ into the format, the stronger their audience appeal with be - and, imho, the Moderator hasn’t yet even shifted into third gear - that guy has the skillz to manage a fast-paced,  hard-hitting match between highly opinionated, strong speakers! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there room in the format for the game to get ’stepped-up’?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, kudos to Off The Record for hosting a Blogger’s Edition of their ‘08 Political coverage! That’s the second time I’ve seen video of the same panel and moderater, and I think the whole package ‘works.’ </p>
<p>If I were to make a suggestion, it would be to consider modifying the format just slightly to pull-in a little more ‘issue depth.’ Perhaps a prepared, but *live* Left v Right, Point/CounterPoint on a Moderator pre-determined issue would allow the ‘contextualization’ of the issues and lend audience understanding of the roots of the speakers’ passions.</p>
<p>A move like that would give all the panelists the opportunity to ‘inflate’ into 3-D as Michiganders with ‘informed’ opinions, and balance the otherwise lively, but somewhat surface-treatment interaction.</p>
<p>Passion originating from the depths of reasoned understanding, which you and Lynn on the left have in abundance, is compelling. </p>
<p>It’s because the format doesn’t really support addressing issue depth, imvho, that the right can get away with their ‘understatements’ &#8211; they’re basically ‘flat-facing’ the discussion because they don’t have anything to be passionate about. </p>
<p>Go deep on them and stretch them out, or to use a wrestling analogy &#8211; they’re turtling, so it’s time to get dynamic and flip their inaction!</p>
<p>The more ‘reasoned passion’ that OTR ‘bakes’ into the format, the stronger their audience appeal with be &#8211; and, imho, the Moderator hasn’t yet even shifted into third gear &#8211; that guy has the skillz to manage a fast-paced,  hard-hitting match between highly opinionated, strong speakers! </p>
<p>Is there room in the format for the game to get ’stepped-up’?</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/wherein-emptywheel-gets-shrill/#comment-66982</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Indeed, even if it were a recessive gene (which I doubt), I’d still look IBMish.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, even if it were a recessive gene (which I doubt), I’d still look IBMish.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Indeed it is. I was taught by this Hollywood type, you see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it is. I was taught by this Hollywood type, you see.</p>
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		<title>By: drational</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/wherein-emptywheel-gets-shrill/#comment-66980</link>
		<dc:creator>drational</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT but I ran into Patrick Fitzgerald at the O’Hare airport United luggage claim last night.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Me: Hey Patrick Fizgerald.  I admire your work [no shit this was all I could think of to say].&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fitz:  Well Thanks. I get credit for the work that lots of other people do.  Take care.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT but I ran into Patrick Fitzgerald at the O’Hare airport United luggage claim last night.</p>
<p>Me: Hey Patrick Fizgerald.  I admire your work [no shit this was all I could think of to say].</p>
<p>Fitz:  Well Thanks. I get credit for the work that lots of other people do.  Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/wherein-emptywheel-gets-shrill/#comment-66979</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As Airhead America continues to get its Reverand Wright 24X7 on, and presciently realizes Wright has murdered all those American soldiers in Iraq, and the Iraqis and Wright is responsible for the Iraqi refugee fuckup Condi caused, forcing Condi to fuckup at gunpoint because he controls the sister, the Whacky people from Michigan the&lt;strong&gt; Whacky Michigan Gang O Four&lt;/strong&gt; continues to remind you of your childhood.  Is there not one of you who thought at one time or another if you just kept asking mommy again in a different way she might give you what she said you couldn’t have?  The Whacky Michigan Gang O Four think that way of course.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LOL the goofballs asked Obama if they could gain 10 Hillary Votes instead of 18 and Obama once again introduced them to the Audacity of Nope Go Piss Up a Rope (See Nope and Rope rhyme in Airhead America).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Something about Obama wasn’t on the ballot in a place where the candidates did not campaign because of the childish selfish stupid actions that the Whacky Michigan Gang O Four knowingly did when they were well over 21 years of age.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The good news is though, Saturday Night Live is in talks with Debbie the Dingbat Dingell for the Whacky Michigan Gang O Four to Guest Host and Debbie Dingbat Dingell and Reverand Jerimiah Wright are in negotiations to enter Dancing With the Stars’ danceoff as a cute couple.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/another-primary-plan-proposed-in-michigan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NYT The Caucus: Yet Another Attempt by the Whacky Michigan Gang O Four to Get Hillary Delegates in Michigan Shot Down by Obama LOL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Airhead America continues to get its Reverand Wright 24X7 on, and presciently realizes Wright has murdered all those American soldiers in Iraq, and the Iraqis and Wright is responsible for the Iraqi refugee fuckup Condi caused, forcing Condi to fuckup at gunpoint because he controls the sister, the Whacky people from Michigan the<strong> Whacky Michigan Gang O Four</strong> continues to remind you of your childhood.  Is there not one of you who thought at one time or another if you just kept asking mommy again in a different way she might give you what she said you couldn’t have?  The Whacky Michigan Gang O Four think that way of course.</p>
<p>LOL the goofballs asked Obama if they could gain 10 Hillary Votes instead of 18 and Obama once again introduced them to the Audacity of Nope Go Piss Up a Rope (See Nope and Rope rhyme in Airhead America).</p>
<p>Something about Obama wasn’t on the ballot in a place where the candidates did not campaign because of the childish selfish stupid actions that the Whacky Michigan Gang O Four knowingly did when they were well over 21 years of age.</p>
<p>The good news is though, Saturday Night Live is in talks with Debbie the Dingbat Dingell for the Whacky Michigan Gang O Four to Guest Host and Debbie Dingbat Dingell and Reverand Jerimiah Wright are in negotiations to enter Dancing With the Stars’ danceoff as a cute couple.</p>
<p><strong></strong><strong><a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/another-primary-plan-proposed-in-michigan/" rel="nofollow">NYT The Caucus: Yet Another Attempt by the Whacky Michigan Gang O Four to Get Hillary Delegates in Michigan Shot Down by Obama LOL</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: MarkusQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkusQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Take Russell Pearce for instance. Really, please take him.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t forget &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1993-11-10/news/the-righteous-stuff/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Len Munsil&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;–MarkusQ&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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Take Russell Pearce for instance. Really, please take him.
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<p>Don’t forget <a href="http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1993-11-10/news/the-righteous-stuff/" rel="nofollow">Len Munsil</a>.</p>
<p>–MarkusQ</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Real Problem&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://icasualties.org/oif/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://icasualties.org/oif/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Real Problem and Educational Crisis in Airhead America&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Lead Story Above Fold New York Times:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/us/politics/30obama.html?hp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama’s Break With Ex-Pastor Sets Sharp Shift in Tone &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Iraq Worst Casualty Month in Nearly a Year Buried &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Real Problem</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://icasualties.org/oif/" rel="nofollow">http://icasualties.org/oif/</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Real Problem and Educational Crisis in Airhead America</strong></p>
<p><strong>Lead Story Above Fold New York Times:</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/us/politics/30obama.html?hp" rel="nofollow">Obama’s Break With Ex-Pastor Sets Sharp Shift in Tone </a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Iraq Worst Casualty Month in Nearly a Year Buried </strong></p>
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