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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“more like stored gunpowder” sure hope so.  Never too late for Justice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“more like stored gunpowder” sure hope so.  Never too late for Justice.</p>
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		<title>By: watercarrier4diogenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>watercarrier4diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PetePierce @ 52&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;From the linked Think Progress Article *g* Human Rights First points out that there is a little component of the 5th Amendment (14th as well but different context entirely) called “Due Process.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Scalia still needs to get the law school wakeup call on that little ditty I guess.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Olbermann ran with that last night, too, amongst fairly long clips from Stahl’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=4048750n&amp;channel=/sections/60minutes/videoplayer3415.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;60 Minutes&lt;/a&gt; story.  His closing shot was that he didn’t just want to see Scalia’s law school diploma, he wanted to see his grade point average.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&amp;brand=msnbc&amp;tab=c1149&amp;fg=&amp;from=00&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Watch it here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PetePierce @ 52</p>
<blockquote><p>From the linked Think Progress Article *g* Human Rights First points out that there is a little component of the 5th Amendment (14th as well but different context entirely) called “Due Process.”</p>
<p>Scalia still needs to get the law school wakeup call on that little ditty I guess.</p>
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<p>Olbermann ran with that last night, too, amongst fairly long clips from Stahl’s <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=4048750n&amp;channel=/sections/60minutes/videoplayer3415.shtml" rel="nofollow">60 Minutes</a> story.  His closing shot was that he didn’t just want to see Scalia’s law school diploma, he wanted to see his grade point average.  <a href="http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&amp;brand=msnbc&amp;tab=c1149&amp;fg=&amp;from=00" rel="nofollow">Watch it here</a></p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
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		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nae bother, lassie. (Well, we’re doing Scots this week, right?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know only a bit about the German resistance in WWII, but I can believe that the Brits weren’t taking them seriously enough early on, or even later. It was a catastrophic situation, so fairly cynical politics came into play, even when it was known that there were groups willing to take great risks. To me, it is so sad to know how many resisters were still being executed at the very end of the war, into the last weeks. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I worry more about my (often clueless) peers here right now than about outside support, although who knows what’s in store for us. I often want to stand up and shout at friends, “Haven’t you been watching what is going on in the U.S. with [insert name of scandal]?” Because we are just starting to reproduce a lot of them, which is very frustrating to me. So maybe some of us are getting our outside support from you, in the sense that you are educating us. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards to Son of Klynn.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nae bother, lassie. (Well, we’re doing Scots this week, right?)</p>
<p>I know only a bit about the German resistance in WWII, but I can believe that the Brits weren’t taking them seriously enough early on, or even later. It was a catastrophic situation, so fairly cynical politics came into play, even when it was known that there were groups willing to take great risks. To me, it is so sad to know how many resisters were still being executed at the very end of the war, into the last weeks. </p>
<p>I worry more about my (often clueless) peers here right now than about outside support, although who knows what’s in store for us. I often want to stand up and shout at friends, “Haven’t you been watching what is going on in the U.S. with [insert name of scandal]?” Because we are just starting to reproduce a lot of them, which is very frustrating to me. So maybe some of us are getting our outside support from you, in the sense that you are educating us. </p>
<p>Best regards to Son of Klynn.</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I meant to post a thanks for your comment the other day to me and my son irt the “Hands Across North America” comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s a real treasure as a child becoming an adult who believes in standing up for the rule of law at 15 years old. He’s shocked at what his peers and teachers do not know, so he brings articles to school from the foreign press and tends to give grassroots civic lessons.  So your kind words of wanting democracy, our democracy, to survive as you watch as our neighbor, meant more to him than you will ever know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is studying WWII right now in his honors history class and is struck by the parallels he is witnessing in his contemporary setting of 2008.  My grandmother and great-grandfather were in the anti-Nazi resistance and the largest of the movement was based in my Grandmother’s hometown.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, having this family history makes him ask tough questions.  He’s been undertaking studying what has been written about the German resistance and looking at “why” it failed.  The fact that “outside” help that was sought did not follow through early on, appears to be quite foundational. Thus, the import to us regarding your comment of support.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to post a thanks for your comment the other day to me and my son irt the “Hands Across North America” comment.</p>
<p>He’s a real treasure as a child becoming an adult who believes in standing up for the rule of law at 15 years old. He’s shocked at what his peers and teachers do not know, so he brings articles to school from the foreign press and tends to give grassroots civic lessons.  So your kind words of wanting democracy, our democracy, to survive as you watch as our neighbor, meant more to him than you will ever know.</p>
<p>He is studying WWII right now in his honors history class and is struck by the parallels he is witnessing in his contemporary setting of 2008.  My grandmother and great-grandfather were in the anti-Nazi resistance and the largest of the movement was based in my Grandmother’s hometown.</p>
<p>So, having this family history makes him ask tough questions.  He’s been undertaking studying what has been written about the German resistance and looking at “why” it failed.  The fact that “outside” help that was sought did not follow through early on, appears to be quite foundational. Thus, the import to us regarding your comment of support.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
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		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Groupthink.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is that for sure. There is so much evidence that the security services have talked themselves into abandoning principle and training because their leaders told them the GWOT made that ok. Blair worked hard to set that tone in Britain; our government and CSIS just take on Bush administration attitudes by osmosis. And there is that old dodge from ministers in both Britain and Canada yesterday when questioned about these cases: we can’t talk about them because we respect the privacy of the individuals concerned. Sure they do. The torture decade is beginning to turn into the CYA decade. I suppose that’s a step forward.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Groupthink.</p>
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<p>It is that for sure. There is so much evidence that the security services have talked themselves into abandoning principle and training because their leaders told them the GWOT made that ok. Blair worked hard to set that tone in Britain; our government and CSIS just take on Bush administration attitudes by osmosis. And there is that old dodge from ministers in both Britain and Canada yesterday when questioned about these cases: we can’t talk about them because we respect the privacy of the individuals concerned. Sure they do. The torture decade is beginning to turn into the CYA decade. I suppose that’s a step forward.</p>
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		<title>By: BayStateLibrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>BayStateLibrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why doesn’t Conyers subpoena Col Davis, one courageous advocate?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802982.html?hpid=topnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....id=topnews&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn’t Conyers subpoena Col Davis, one courageous advocate?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802982.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..id=topnews</a></p>
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		<title>By: BayStateLibrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>BayStateLibrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Okay. It’s fucking spring.&lt;br /&gt;
Where is the DOJ’s IG Report on Gonzo that was promised for release&lt;br /&gt;
in the SPRING.&lt;br /&gt;
Has that been pushed back to SUMMER?&lt;br /&gt;
Why does Congress sit around with their fingers up their arse as&lt;br /&gt;
the country hits rock bottom?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. It’s fucking spring.<br />
Where is the DOJ’s IG Report on Gonzo that was promised for release<br />
in the SPRING.<br />
Has that been pushed back to SUMMER?<br />
Why does Congress sit around with their fingers up their arse as<br />
the country hits rock bottom?</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Note that &lt;strong&gt;not one&lt;/strong&gt; Republican can draw a breath or say a word without slamming Obama. Wonder why that could be? *g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that <strong>not one</strong> Republican can draw a breath or say a word without slamming Obama. Wonder why that could be? *g*</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/washington/29scotus.html?hp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;6-3 Vote Stevens (Surprisingly)and Supremes Defeat Dems and ACLU  in Indiana Voter ID Ruling&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) Clinton completely silent.&lt;br /&gt;
2) Obama denounces ruling.&lt;br /&gt;
3) MSNBC Continues Day 2 as the All Reverand Wright All Miley Cyrus the Sinner TV Network and America the Bananna Republic Drolls On&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/washington/29scotus.html?hp" rel="nofollow">6-3 Vote Stevens (Surprisingly)and Supremes Defeat Dems and ACLU  in Indiana Voter ID Ruling</a></strong></p>
<p>1) Clinton completely silent.<br />
2) Obama denounces ruling.<br />
3) MSNBC Continues Day 2 as the All Reverand Wright All Miley Cyrus the Sinner TV Network and America the Bananna Republic Drolls On</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Groupthink.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Groupthink.</p>
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