Comments on: Article I v. State Secrets http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:35:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: LabDancer http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66284 LabDancer Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:50:13 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66284 <p>With you on all of that. Had a stint at acting for the Olys & some polluters & creative accounting fixated corporations & chiselling insurers & ol’ bidnesses myself. As they liked to say to me: keeps the wolf from the door. But not any of them for a few years now. Must be getting religion.</p> With you on all of that. Had a stint at acting for the Olys & some polluters & creative accounting fixated corporations & chiselling insurers & ol’ bidnesses myself. As they liked to say to me: keeps the wolf from the door. But not any of them for a few years now. Must be getting religion.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66266 bmaz Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:32:09 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66266 <p>I don’t know about the other points on the list, but I don’t usually hold the clients he has represented against a professional trial attorney; it’s just their job. I have had a few that would send shivers down your spine, and they are pretty much all walking the street except those that died of natural causes.</p> I don’t know about the other points on the list, but I don’t usually hold the clients he has represented against a professional trial attorney; it’s just their job. I have had a few that would send shivers down your spine, and they are pretty much all walking the street except those that died of natural causes.

]]> By: JohnLopresti http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66265 JohnLopresti Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:31:46 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66265 <p>Seems some spring cleaning has improved organization of EFF’s links pages, now one is available for links to the <a href="http://www.eff.org/cases/al-haramain" rel="nofollow">court documents in the alHaramain case</a>, and another has links to many <a href="http://www.eff.org/issues/nsa-spying" rel="nofollow">other cases</a> such as Hepting, state attorneys general cases against telcos in wiretapping and the like. The Egelko article seems like the goldStandard for accuracy and timeliness regarding Walker’s informed repartee, and I appreciate ew’s including the coordinates for his article. I have communicated with him occasionally on state matters, and find he is well informed, and curious; but his employer has ’structural problems’, so I rarely visit that site. One of the interesting AlHaramain <a href="http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/att/alharamainamicusanswer.pdf" rel="nofollow">recent documents</a> by petitioner is reminiscent of the CheneyDust theory of the monarchicalExecutive.</p> Seems some spring cleaning has improved organization of EFF’s links pages, now one is available for links to the court documents in the alHaramain case, and another has links to many other cases such as Hepting, state attorneys general cases against telcos in wiretapping and the like. The Egelko article seems like the goldStandard for accuracy and timeliness regarding Walker’s informed repartee, and I appreciate ew’s including the coordinates for his article. I have communicated with him occasionally on state matters, and find he is well informed, and curious; but his employer has ’structural problems’, so I rarely visit that site. One of the interesting AlHaramain recent documents by petitioner is reminiscent of the CheneyDust theory of the monarchicalExecutive.

]]> By: LabDancer http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66260 LabDancer Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:23:46 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66260 <p>Ms E Wheel - If memory serves back in two thousand & aught six you pointed out this same Judge Walker for holding against American Telegraph & Telephone on the same basis - that privilege blown is like shoving the genie back into the bottle - which is pretty much orthodox law. </p> <p>And isnt this the same judge who:</p> <p>[a] as a lawyer acted [successfully] for the Olympics to keeping the Gay Olympics from using IOC trademarks?<br /> [b] as a lawyer acted [successfully] for the NRA in its winning streak on 2nd amendment challenges back in the 1980s?<br /> [c] was forced to resign his membership in the SF Olympic golf club around 5 or 6 P.N. [pre-Newt] to try to blunt opposition to his appointment & break a long confirmation battle?<br /> [d] as chief judge of this district gets to pick & choose his cases?<br /> [e] ruled against AT&T on the same ”blown privilege” basis in 2006?</p> <p>Old fashioned libertarian lawyers can look a lot like lefties on these sorts of issues.</p> <p>Was it so few years ago that the Dems were able to use the confirmation process to score political points, as opposed to now when its come down to trying to prevent just the psychopaths from the Federalist Society’s list of unindicted criminals submitted to Bush for appointment?</p> <p>Could one argue that the BCA at least technically achieved at least something towards bipartisanship: though each group would be looking up an entirely different orifice of that old pachyderm, each of the GOOP & Dems would have some basis for tearing up in looking back at the Reagan-Dad Bush years.</p> Ms E Wheel – If memory serves back in two thousand & aught six you pointed out this same Judge Walker for holding against American Telegraph & Telephone on the same basis – that privilege blown is like shoving the genie back into the bottle – which is pretty much orthodox law.

And isnt this the same judge who:

[a] as a lawyer acted [successfully] for the Olympics to keeping the Gay Olympics from using IOC trademarks?
[b] as a lawyer acted [successfully] for the NRA in its winning streak on 2nd amendment challenges back in the 1980s?
[c] was forced to resign his membership in the SF Olympic golf club around 5 or 6 P.N. [pre-Newt] to try to blunt opposition to his appointment & break a long confirmation battle?
[d] as chief judge of this district gets to pick & choose his cases?
[e] ruled against AT&T on the same ”blown privilege” basis in 2006?

Old fashioned libertarian lawyers can look a lot like lefties on these sorts of issues.

Was it so few years ago that the Dems were able to use the confirmation process to score political points, as opposed to now when its come down to trying to prevent just the psychopaths from the Federalist Society’s list of unindicted criminals submitted to Bush for appointment?

Could one argue that the BCA at least technically achieved at least something towards bipartisanship: though each group would be looking up an entirely different orifice of that old pachyderm, each of the GOOP & Dems would have some basis for tearing up in looking back at the Reagan-Dad Bush years.

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66249 emptywheel Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:05:52 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66249 <p>Thanks for posting the links, klynn. I too meant to post this last week, and have a half-finished post just rotting in there.</p> Thanks for posting the links, klynn. I too meant to post this last week, and have a half-finished post just rotting in there.

]]> By: danps http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66246 danps Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:01:08 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66246 <p>More good stuff Marcy.</p> More good stuff Marcy.

]]> By: klynn http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66233 klynn Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:23:32 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66233 <p>Way O/T and overdue…</p> <p>Meant to post this last week…</p> <p><a href="http://www.dailytech.com/Two+Ships+Impounded+After+Investigation+into+Undersea+Cable+Cuts/article11480.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailytech.com/Two+S.....e11480.htm</a></p> <p><a href="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Internet_/UAE_releases_one_of_the_ships_impounded_for_cable_damage/articleshow/2947325.cms" rel="nofollow">http://economictimes.indiatime.....947325.cms</a></p> Way O/T and overdue…

Meant to post this last week…

http://www.dailytech.com/Two+S…..e11480.htm

http://economictimes.indiatime…..947325.cms

]]> By: MadDog http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66231 MadDog Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:21:33 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66231 <p>From what I understand, Sam’s quota is only for premium bare-assed *g*s.</p> <p>I always make do with the discount brand. *g*</p> From what I understand, Sam’s quota is only for premium bare-assed *g*s.

I always make do with the discount brand. *g*

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66229 bmaz Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:15:05 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66229 <p>Oh, all right. Heh heh, just remember, I keep track of who the “author” of all those “g”s is…..</p> Oh, all right. Heh heh, just remember, I keep track of who the “author” of all those “g”s is…..

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/comment-page-1/#comment-66228 emptywheel Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:09:26 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/24/article-i-v-state-secrets/#comment-66228 <p>As I understand it, only Sam’s Club has put a quote on “g”s.</p> As I understand it, only Sam’s Club has put a quote on “g”s.

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