Comments on: Hillary’s Iran Comments

By: DonS

DonS — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:10:26 +0000

“I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole “policy” proposal wasn’t ginned up purposely to allow Hillary to scream “Bomb, bomb” Iran to the roof tops for all those good northern rednecks in Penna.

“That seems to be a incredibly silly statement since you penned it after Clinton had left Pennsylvania.

Sorry you think its silly. I think the Pennsylvania audience remains salient whether one is “in” the state or simply communicating via some media. I can understand you thinking its “silly” on other grounds. Am I missing something here.

By: Anna

Anna — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:35:47 +0000

Would that be the rational Israeli military who left thousands of cluster bombs all over southern Lebanon?

Israel started the arms race in the middle east and that’s a fact!

By: Anna

Anna — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:29:22 +0000

AQKhan leveled the Nuclear arsenal killing field. Lots of money made by many! (Sibel knows)

By: Anna

Anna — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:25:55 +0000

She may get some more money from the right wing radicals. But Clinton and others are underestimating the growing disgust with US foreign policy when it comes to supporting Israel no matter how many UN resolutions they are in violation of, how many illegal settlements they build and their continued refusal to sign the Non Proliferation Treaty. The last President to demand inspections in Israel was President Kennedy!

By: Anna

Anna — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:17:01 +0000

Does she really need to go that far? Using inflammatory and unsubstantiated claims about Iran? No she does not!

By: Anna

Anna — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:15:26 +0000

Pollack is allegedly USGO1 in the upcoming Aipac espionage trial. You know the trial that dare not speak its name in the MSM or the “progressive” blogosphere. That trial

http://www.globalsecurity.org/.....ug2005.htm

By: bmaz

bmaz — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:45:48 +0000

I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole “policy” proposal wasn’t ginned up purposely to allow Hillary to scream “Bomb, bomb” Iran to the roof tops for all those good northern rednecks in Penna.

That seems to be a incredibly silly statement since you penned it after Clinton had left Pennsylvania.

By: DonS

DonS — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:56:03 +0000

Wigwam, Israel does not want/need its nuclear armory “legitimized” or brought out of the closet; that is part of their perceived “edge”. And Hillary would do nothing to hinder that edge because the more hawkish elements in Israel, and certainly in the AIPAC surrogates which she kowtows to, wouldn’t allow it.

The possible “benefits” of an “umbrella” being a second order speculation, the first and obvious fact is that the “umbrella” is a non starter even in theory, IMO.

Fact is, has the US not invaded Iraq and destroyed the delicate balance, there would be no need to be screaming so loudly about Iran’s nuclear ambition just now. Fact is, Hillary helped kick start this policy and strategic disaster by voting for the war.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole “policy” proposal wasn’t ginned up purposely to allow Hillary to scream “Bomb, bomb” Iran to the roof tops for all those good northern rednecks in Penna.

By: emptywheel

emptywheel — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:54:06 +0000

Actually Larue, my point here is you’re misreading the basic grammar of Hillary’s speech. By ignoring Hillary’s statements on deterrence, you’ve completely misread her speech. I’m not defending the soundness of her policy. But I am reading what she said.

By: Nell

Nell — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:45:28 +0000

Hugh: Except of course that Iraqi forces did move into Saudi territory.

They did no such thing.

Pentagon officials told the U.S. media that there were satellite images of them massing on the Saudi border, but neither AP nor the St. Petersburg Times, which in December 1990 purchased commercial satellite images from the period of the invasion of Kuwait, were able to find any evidence of troops near the border. Or, for that matter, in all of Kuwait in the numbers claimed by the Pentagon.

An In These Times article in February 1991 recounts in detail the two media outlets’ efforts to confirm the Pentagon accounts. The Pentagon refused to show the images they claimed to anyone.

After the war, Colin Powell acknowledged that the numbers of Iraqi troops in Kuwait might have been overestimated.

The purpose of the story of massed Iraqi troops threatening the Saudi oil fields was twofold: to get the Saudis to allow U.S. troops to be based on Saudi territory, and to lay the groundwork for public and elite support for U.S. military intervention against Iraq.

The Iraqis did launch some missiles toward/into Saudi territory. If you can find any sources documenting Iraqi incursions into Saudi Arabia, please post them here.