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		<title>By: phred</title>
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		<dc:creator>phred</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the synopsis Sara.  Given RMS’ interests in Africa, perhaps he got a pledge from Bill/Hillary to push for free trade agreements in Africa which would potentially benefit him enormously.  Bill once famously said “it’s the economy stupid”.  Bill was raised in an era when Friedman economics have been treated as the end all be all.  There is no reason to believe that the Clintons’ would reconsider their economic vision of the world and that vision aligns with the neocons.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the synopsis Sara.  Given RMS’ interests in Africa, perhaps he got a pledge from Bill/Hillary to push for free trade agreements in Africa which would potentially benefit him enormously.  Bill once famously said “it’s the economy stupid”.  Bill was raised in an era when Friedman economics have been treated as the end all be all.  There is no reason to believe that the Clintons’ would reconsider their economic vision of the world and that vision aligns with the neocons.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe he just thinks they would provide they most stable baseline for business, and of the three candidates, that may be correct from his point of view.  Not mine necessarily, but very maybe his.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he just thinks they would provide they most stable baseline for business, and of the three candidates, that may be correct from his point of view.  Not mine necessarily, but very maybe his.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As I understand it, when the British Historian, David Cannadine took up his project of writing a social history of the Mellon Family, “An American Life: Mellon” he got a total rejection from Richard Mellon Scaife, probably with a threat to sue if anything about “him” ended up getting probed in the process.  But Cannadine is a very clever historian, so if you read his book which I have muchly enjoyed, you will see he left some nice big holes in quite obvious places that should have dealt with RMS, but didn’t.  Something like having the city come to do the potholes in your street, but leaving one big obvious hole unattended. On the other hand Paul Mellon was totally cooperative until he died in 1999.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But just to sketch this out, The Founding Mellon was Andrew, (1785-1856), and he had five children, but only one is particularly relevant to the Business side of the family line, Thomas Mellon, (1813-1908).  Thomas had eight children, some died quite young, others (the girls) were not all that critical to business — but two of the sons, Andrew (1855-1937) and Richard Beatty Mellon, (1858-1933)are critical.  It was Thomas Mellon who put the family fortune together, based on Real Estate, Coal Mining, Aluminum, Oil — not PA Oil, that was Rockefeller turf, but Gulf Oil down in LA and off shore, and a whole range of businesses involved with steel, ownership of tram systems in Pittsburgh and other PA cities, Railroads, and ultimately of course Banking and Finance. From the time Thomas died in 1908 until about the time of World War One, the family fortune was managed by Andrew and Richard from a Partners desk in the family bank, but their interests divided about the time the US got into WWI, with Andrew moving into Republic Party Orbits, much more involved with Finance as opposed to starting businesses in PA and all.  Andrew eventually became Secretary of the Treasury in Republican Administrations in the 1920’s, and after the depression began, and Hoover needed to disappear him, Ambassador to the Court of St. James.  While Sec of the Treasury, he furthered his interest in Art Collecting, eventually buying much of the French Impressionist wealth of the Tzar’s collection in the Hermitage in Leningrad from Stalin’s agents — so much that he actually financed the first Soviet Five Year Plan as it needed hard currency.  This, plus much else eventually became the foundation collection for the National Gallery in DC, with Mellon financing the museum on the mall.  FDR accepted the deed to all this from Andrew Mellon a few weeks before Mellon died in 1937.  He left one son, Paul, who also made huge contributions from the Mellon fortune to the National Gallery of Art. Paul’s second wife was Bunny Mellon, who, if you have read New Frontier and Kennedy stuff you will know was Jacqui’s best friend during the WH years.  Bunny Mellon designed the Rose Garden.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other brother, Richard, stayed home and stuck to the banking business in Pittsburgh when Andrew exited from day to day management of the family partnership during WWI.  Eventually Richard had two children, Richard King Mellon (1899-1970), and Sarah Cordelia, (1903-1965).  It is Sarah who Married Alan Magee Scaife, resulting in the current Richard Mellon Scaife, who, as I said, is not in the Mellon Family Book, nor in the Index.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Butttttt — you can get an idea of what he (the unnamed Mellon) might be worth by looking at what his mum inherited when her dad, Richard died in 1933.  The Richard Mellon estate was administered by Andrew, and was divided three ways, his wife got a third,  Richard King got a third, and Sarah got a third — that is one third of the Richard &amp; Andrew Partnership — with Richard’s estate including the Mellon National Bank, Alcoa, Gulf Oil, and a number of other investments including transit, railroads, coal mines, and other odd things. The estimated value in 1933, (highly depressed dollars) was 200 million.  (the convention is to multiply depression dollars by 7 to get a 1990 sense of value — thus in 1990 dollars, 1.4 billion.)  And one has to assume that between 33 and today, this kind of Capital would have significantly increased, especially considering it was based in stock in the Mellon Bank, Alcoa, Gulf Oil and the like. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;During World War II both the Andrew and the Richard side of the Mellon Family were involved in OSS.  Aside from Paul’s going into Omaha Beach, and eventually participating in OSS activity in both France and Germany behind the lines — not much else is known in specific terms.  Alan Magee Scaife’s involvement is vague, but apparently RMS’s dad was involved with the financial side of OSS, and immediate post-war reorganization of French and German politics.  Cannadine also tells us that the Richard Mellon side of the family in the post war era, was massively invested in South American projects — oil and mining.  But he also tells us that in the 60’s and 70’s some of the Richard Mellon’s side assets lost money pretty big time, particularly the Bank.  After Richard King’s death in 1970, professional non-family management was brought in to reorganize. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Andrew and Richard sides of the Mellon Family split politically after WWII, with Paul identified more with Democrats, and Richard an early and strong supporter of Eisenhower and particularly Nixon.  We know this carried on, as RMS gave over a million dollars altogether to Nixon Campaign Funds in 68 and 72, and then got the favor of a dirt cheap price on those “cultural” CIA Assets in 1974.  Perhaps the clear picture would be RMS moving into playing in covert politics just as he was being edged out of Mellon Asset Management, because of loss of money on investments — in otherwords, he wasn’t a particularly good businessman.  At least one of the questions I would ask would be about this. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I actually have another bag of factual evidence about Scaife, but I still cannot reconstruct dates.  You see, I have actually met the guy.  My Uncle who was President of a small investment bank in the 60’s, merged that bank with Mellon Bank, and during the merger negotiations, I was visiting Aunt, Uncle and Cousin, and RMS came for a visit. (more like an inspection tour), I am sure it was before his first divorce, because it was the first wife that I met.  Once I confirm some dates — I’ll post my insight.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So why is he endorsing Hillary?  I don’t think it is a conversion.  I think it is his version of Business.  The first act was not Hillary, it was lunch with Bill to talk about Africa, resulting in a nice big check to Bill’s African AIDS projects.  What is it all about?  Don’t know.  Angolian Oil, Nigerian Oil, mining interests in several countries, problems recovering from earlier support for Apartheid Regimes in S. Africa?  Maybe all of the above?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand it, when the British Historian, David Cannadine took up his project of writing a social history of the Mellon Family, “An American Life: Mellon” he got a total rejection from Richard Mellon Scaife, probably with a threat to sue if anything about “him” ended up getting probed in the process.  But Cannadine is a very clever historian, so if you read his book which I have muchly enjoyed, you will see he left some nice big holes in quite obvious places that should have dealt with RMS, but didn’t.  Something like having the city come to do the potholes in your street, but leaving one big obvious hole unattended. On the other hand Paul Mellon was totally cooperative until he died in 1999.</p>
<p>But just to sketch this out, The Founding Mellon was Andrew, (1785-1856), and he had five children, but only one is particularly relevant to the Business side of the family line, Thomas Mellon, (1813-1908).  Thomas had eight children, some died quite young, others (the girls) were not all that critical to business — but two of the sons, Andrew (1855-1937) and Richard Beatty Mellon, (1858-1933)are critical.  It was Thomas Mellon who put the family fortune together, based on Real Estate, Coal Mining, Aluminum, Oil — not PA Oil, that was Rockefeller turf, but Gulf Oil down in LA and off shore, and a whole range of businesses involved with steel, ownership of tram systems in Pittsburgh and other PA cities, Railroads, and ultimately of course Banking and Finance. From the time Thomas died in 1908 until about the time of World War One, the family fortune was managed by Andrew and Richard from a Partners desk in the family bank, but their interests divided about the time the US got into WWI, with Andrew moving into Republic Party Orbits, much more involved with Finance as opposed to starting businesses in PA and all.  Andrew eventually became Secretary of the Treasury in Republican Administrations in the 1920’s, and after the depression began, and Hoover needed to disappear him, Ambassador to the Court of St. James.  While Sec of the Treasury, he furthered his interest in Art Collecting, eventually buying much of the French Impressionist wealth of the Tzar’s collection in the Hermitage in Leningrad from Stalin’s agents — so much that he actually financed the first Soviet Five Year Plan as it needed hard currency.  This, plus much else eventually became the foundation collection for the National Gallery in DC, with Mellon financing the museum on the mall.  FDR accepted the deed to all this from Andrew Mellon a few weeks before Mellon died in 1937.  He left one son, Paul, who also made huge contributions from the Mellon fortune to the National Gallery of Art. Paul’s second wife was Bunny Mellon, who, if you have read New Frontier and Kennedy stuff you will know was Jacqui’s best friend during the WH years.  Bunny Mellon designed the Rose Garden.   </p>
<p>The other brother, Richard, stayed home and stuck to the banking business in Pittsburgh when Andrew exited from day to day management of the family partnership during WWI.  Eventually Richard had two children, Richard King Mellon (1899-1970), and Sarah Cordelia, (1903-1965).  It is Sarah who Married Alan Magee Scaife, resulting in the current Richard Mellon Scaife, who, as I said, is not in the Mellon Family Book, nor in the Index.  </p>
<p>Butttttt — you can get an idea of what he (the unnamed Mellon) might be worth by looking at what his mum inherited when her dad, Richard died in 1933.  The Richard Mellon estate was administered by Andrew, and was divided three ways, his wife got a third,  Richard King got a third, and Sarah got a third — that is one third of the Richard &amp; Andrew Partnership — with Richard’s estate including the Mellon National Bank, Alcoa, Gulf Oil, and a number of other investments including transit, railroads, coal mines, and other odd things. The estimated value in 1933, (highly depressed dollars) was 200 million.  (the convention is to multiply depression dollars by 7 to get a 1990 sense of value — thus in 1990 dollars, 1.4 billion.)  And one has to assume that between 33 and today, this kind of Capital would have significantly increased, especially considering it was based in stock in the Mellon Bank, Alcoa, Gulf Oil and the like. </p>
<p>During World War II both the Andrew and the Richard side of the Mellon Family were involved in OSS.  Aside from Paul’s going into Omaha Beach, and eventually participating in OSS activity in both France and Germany behind the lines — not much else is known in specific terms.  Alan Magee Scaife’s involvement is vague, but apparently RMS’s dad was involved with the financial side of OSS, and immediate post-war reorganization of French and German politics.  Cannadine also tells us that the Richard Mellon side of the family in the post war era, was massively invested in South American projects — oil and mining.  But he also tells us that in the 60’s and 70’s some of the Richard Mellon’s side assets lost money pretty big time, particularly the Bank.  After Richard King’s death in 1970, professional non-family management was brought in to reorganize. </p>
<p>The Andrew and Richard sides of the Mellon Family split politically after WWII, with Paul identified more with Democrats, and Richard an early and strong supporter of Eisenhower and particularly Nixon.  We know this carried on, as RMS gave over a million dollars altogether to Nixon Campaign Funds in 68 and 72, and then got the favor of a dirt cheap price on those “cultural” CIA Assets in 1974.  Perhaps the clear picture would be RMS moving into playing in covert politics just as he was being edged out of Mellon Asset Management, because of loss of money on investments — in otherwords, he wasn’t a particularly good businessman.  At least one of the questions I would ask would be about this. </p>
<p>I actually have another bag of factual evidence about Scaife, but I still cannot reconstruct dates.  You see, I have actually met the guy.  My Uncle who was President of a small investment bank in the 60’s, merged that bank with Mellon Bank, and during the merger negotiations, I was visiting Aunt, Uncle and Cousin, and RMS came for a visit. (more like an inspection tour), I am sure it was before his first divorce, because it was the first wife that I met.  Once I confirm some dates — I’ll post my insight.  </p>
<p>So why is he endorsing Hillary?  I don’t think it is a conversion.  I think it is his version of Business.  The first act was not Hillary, it was lunch with Bill to talk about Africa, resulting in a nice big check to Bill’s African AIDS projects.  What is it all about?  Don’t know.  Angolian Oil, Nigerian Oil, mining interests in several countries, problems recovering from earlier support for Apartheid Regimes in S. Africa?  Maybe all of the above?</p>
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		<title>By: phred</title>
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		<dc:creator>phred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess I don’t trust Scaife.  As a result, I don’t believe his change of heart is sincere.  I can easily imagine him willing to concede a battle (Iraq) in the hopes of salvaging the final outcome of the war (American/corporate hegemony).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I don’t trust Scaife.  As a result, I don’t believe his change of heart is sincere.  I can easily imagine him willing to concede a battle (Iraq) in the hopes of salvaging the final outcome of the war (American/corporate hegemony).</p>
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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Because the psyops were using government money from the taxpayers, to broadcast propaganda over the airwaves, the agency which took action in the AWilliams noChildLeftBehind $USD quarter million was perhaps surprisingly FCC, whose leadership usually is a political plum appointment by the current executive administration, plus a balance between the 2 principal political parties as commissioners.  While yet needing to read the GAO report kindly linked, I thought I would leave the coordinates here for a surprisingly repressive outcome of the AWilliams scandal, revocation of the license of an &lt;a href=&quot;http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-152A1.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ethnic network of television broadcasters&lt;/a&gt;.  A quick googlesearch showed NCLB’s propaganda planners botched more surreptitious propaganda efforts than the AW case.  It turned out something like the Rollin Post WhitmanElectionday bribe scandal.  I have yet to identify who the brainchildren of the scheme were; it all sounds Krovianly inspired to me, for its mediaSaviness, but SaraTaylor liked that kind of pizzaz, as well.  The interesting feature of the NYT expose would be the timing if the next presidency is democratic party and there is a new chair of fcc appointment sufficiently early to remain within the statute of liitations for investigation of the quid pro quo side of the unattributed propaganda; note to bmaz, the pdf linked goes thru both CFR and USC bans chapter and verse in the revocation action, v.infra*.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then there was the case of the printmedia entity, which, I believe, resolved the payola scandal in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/09/washington/09cuba.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FL by firing a reporter&lt;/a&gt;, but later rehiring him after the scandal ebbed; this is another case of psyops style compromising of an ethnic minority’s sense of deprivation, though a much more turbulent demographic than the PA case involving AW.&lt;br /&gt;
_____&lt;br /&gt;
*SONSHINE FAMILY TELEVISION, INC.&lt;br /&gt;
Licensee of Station WBPH-TV&lt;br /&gt;
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania&lt;br /&gt;
SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP, INC&lt;br /&gt;
Licensee of Stations WABM(TV), Birmingham,&lt;br /&gt;
Alabama, WVTV(TV), Milwaukee, Wisconsin,&lt;br /&gt;
WUXP-TV, Nashville, Tennessee, KOCB(TV),&lt;br /&gt;
WEAR-TV, Pensacola, Florida, WPMY(TV),&lt;br /&gt;
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, KABB(TV), San&lt;br /&gt;
Antonio, Texas, WTWC-TV, Tallahassee,&lt;br /&gt;
Florida, and former licensee of KSMO-TV,&lt;br /&gt;
Kansas City, Missouri&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These were consolidated in the ruling FCC 07-152:  formerly separately docketed:&lt;br /&gt;
File No. EB-06-IH-3489&lt;br /&gt;
File No. EB-06-IH-3486&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the psyops were using government money from the taxpayers, to broadcast propaganda over the airwaves, the agency which took action in the AWilliams noChildLeftBehind $USD quarter million was perhaps surprisingly FCC, whose leadership usually is a political plum appointment by the current executive administration, plus a balance between the 2 principal political parties as commissioners.  While yet needing to read the GAO report kindly linked, I thought I would leave the coordinates here for a surprisingly repressive outcome of the AWilliams scandal, revocation of the license of an <a href="http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-152A1.pdf" rel="nofollow">ethnic network of television broadcasters</a>.  A quick googlesearch showed NCLB’s propaganda planners botched more surreptitious propaganda efforts than the AW case.  It turned out something like the Rollin Post WhitmanElectionday bribe scandal.  I have yet to identify who the brainchildren of the scheme were; it all sounds Krovianly inspired to me, for its mediaSaviness, but SaraTaylor liked that kind of pizzaz, as well.  The interesting feature of the NYT expose would be the timing if the next presidency is democratic party and there is a new chair of fcc appointment sufficiently early to remain within the statute of liitations for investigation of the quid pro quo side of the unattributed propaganda; note to bmaz, the pdf linked goes thru both CFR and USC bans chapter and verse in the revocation action, v.infra*.</p>
<p>Then there was the case of the printmedia entity, which, I believe, resolved the payola scandal in <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/09/washington/09cuba.html?_r=2&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">FL by firing a reporter</a>, but later rehiring him after the scandal ebbed; this is another case of psyops style compromising of an ethnic minority’s sense of deprivation, though a much more turbulent demographic than the PA case involving AW.<br />
_____<br />
*SONSHINE FAMILY TELEVISION, INC.<br />
Licensee of Station WBPH-TV<br />
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania<br />
SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP, INC<br />
Licensee of Stations WABM(TV), Birmingham,<br />
Alabama, WVTV(TV), Milwaukee, Wisconsin,<br />
WUXP-TV, Nashville, Tennessee, KOCB(TV),<br />
WEAR-TV, Pensacola, Florida, WPMY(TV),<br />
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, KABB(TV), San<br />
Antonio, Texas, WTWC-TV, Tallahassee,<br />
Florida, and former licensee of KSMO-TV,<br />
Kansas City, Missouri</p>
<p>These were consolidated in the ruling FCC 07-152:  formerly separately docketed:<br />
File No. EB-06-IH-3489<br />
File No. EB-06-IH-3486</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So long as he keeps funding his original foundations, won’t comments that run contrary to whom he funds be relegated to the rants of an aging, bitter, but still enormously wealthy divorced man.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So long as he keeps funding his original foundations, won’t comments that run contrary to whom he funds be relegated to the rants of an aging, bitter, but still enormously wealthy divorced man.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A bit of Googling turned up the fact that Kai Ryssdal, the latest host of this [NPR] financial program does not have a background in finance, or in radio, or even in journalism. Before switching careers he was a briefing officer for the Pentagon Joint Chiefs of Staff, and has a master’s degree in national security studies from Georgetown University.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Simply maahveluhs what a little neocon pressure on PBS budget can do; they managed to turn the aircraft carrier of PBS to starboard within a few yards rather than three or four miles.  Will we ever enjoy substantive professionals again, and cast aside the scores of “Pentagon briefers”, lobbyists turned agency heads and PR hacks-cum-senior advisers that this administration has thrust upon our public discourse?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A bit of Googling turned up the fact that Kai Ryssdal, the latest host of this [NPR] financial program does not have a background in finance, or in radio, or even in journalism. Before switching careers he was a briefing officer for the Pentagon Joint Chiefs of Staff, and has a master’s degree in national security studies from Georgetown University.</p>
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<p>Simply maahveluhs what a little neocon pressure on PBS budget can do; they managed to turn the aircraft carrier of PBS to starboard within a few yards rather than three or four miles.  Will we ever enjoy substantive professionals again, and cast aside the scores of “Pentagon briefers”, lobbyists turned agency heads and PR hacks-cum-senior advisers that this administration has thrust upon our public discourse?</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It could be, but if you’re pushing empire there’s still not much point in taking a stance that criticizes the stance of those laying ideological foundations for empire.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Scaife’s role on the right is first and foremost to sustain and expand ideology. But by calling for withdrawal from Iraq, he works counter to almost all of the conservative ideological apparatus.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be, but if you’re pushing empire there’s still not much point in taking a stance that criticizes the stance of those laying ideological foundations for empire.</p>
<p>Scaife’s role on the right is first and foremost to sustain and expand ideology. But by calling for withdrawal from Iraq, he works counter to almost all of the conservative ideological apparatus.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;could not the differences be based on how one thinks it best to proceed in order to expand the empire?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could not the differences be based on how one thinks it best to proceed in order to expand the empire?</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The change of heart, specifically, pertains to support (or not, in Scaife’s case) for Iraq. One of the reasons I find that so striking is that all his earlier international connections (as Sara suggests) would lead you to believe he’d be happy expanding the empire.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The change of heart, specifically, pertains to support (or not, in Scaife’s case) for Iraq. One of the reasons I find that so striking is that all his earlier international connections (as Sara suggests) would lead you to believe he’d be happy expanding the empire.</p>
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