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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/family-recipes/comment-page-2/#comment-64644</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There was a food-centric interview on the radio while Tuesday of this week April 15, the same day as a hearing in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://help.senate.gov/Hearings/2008_04_15/2008_04_15.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions&lt;/a&gt;. The program on the radio was a background interview with a person who was part of a group of fieldworkers which had brought suits for unfair wages and living conditions for legal fieldworkers in the South.  The interview included a translator who was part of the political organization in which the monolingual worker interviewee evidently was a principal, and a patently bright one.  The audio translation was intermittent, so the original narrative was audible in its entirety in the original language.  I found a fair synopsis in one paragraph at the end of this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/2008/4/14/did_burger_king_target_and_spy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amy Goodman&lt;/a&gt; article.  In sum, farm workers were housed in a van which the ranch manager locked at night, keeping the laborers inside.  Fastfood entities are interested in the story because the laborers have enjoyed considerable success in court over the past few months in actions which would cost employers money for pay adjustments, a fiduciary prudential view on the part of the restauranteurs.  And there are politicoes interested in the fray.  Some of the early work in this matter also involved wholesale produce ag operations in the South; for example, see Southern Poverty Law Center’s interesting writeup of a 2002 case recently decided, concerning &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?aid=304&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GA melon workers&lt;/a&gt;.  The firstmentioned lockedup worker matter involves a hamburger wholesaler and is in FL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SF under current moderate leadership has authorized ordinances for restaurant workers guaranteeing health plans and mandating employer contributions, a proposed rule that has irked the professional organization of restauranteurs, who are prosecuting the matter in the region IX court in Pasadena; see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/17/BA6R106R8O.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Egelko’s article on the BushCo amicus status&lt;/a&gt; in the case, in an article published today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, I appreciate the findlaw link from klynn; I would characterize that Sentelle joined decision as less than a permanent, and would imagine EPIC to have ongoing interest in the similar Cheney energy taskforce consultations.  Maybe we will see more sunshine in government laws in the next congress as counterpoint to the past few years of executive on steroids.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is one recipe in my archive that echoes the comments about molasses, above, better with a more purified ingredient, though probably suitable only for children, excess sugar, for people who allow children to have a lot of that.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re the ChicagoTimes link from reader, above, the article is hyperpolitical and jingoistic, but like bmaz’ skinny comment, reflects well on Ms. Hensley’s charitable pursuits.  Ew is right, though, the media’s reportage on these minutiae, to me, suggests more of the retrenchment and downsizing in treepulpbased media and vapidity based videosoundbiteconsciousness.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a food-centric interview on the radio while Tuesday of this week April 15, the same day as a hearing in the <a href="http://help.senate.gov/Hearings/2008_04_15/2008_04_15.html" rel="nofollow">Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions</a>. The program on the radio was a background interview with a person who was part of a group of fieldworkers which had brought suits for unfair wages and living conditions for legal fieldworkers in the South.  The interview included a translator who was part of the political organization in which the monolingual worker interviewee evidently was a principal, and a patently bright one.  The audio translation was intermittent, so the original narrative was audible in its entirety in the original language.  I found a fair synopsis in one paragraph at the end of this <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2008/4/14/did_burger_king_target_and_spy" rel="nofollow">Amy Goodman</a> article.  In sum, farm workers were housed in a van which the ranch manager locked at night, keeping the laborers inside.  Fastfood entities are interested in the story because the laborers have enjoyed considerable success in court over the past few months in actions which would cost employers money for pay adjustments, a fiduciary prudential view on the part of the restauranteurs.  And there are politicoes interested in the fray.  Some of the early work in this matter also involved wholesale produce ag operations in the South; for example, see Southern Poverty Law Center’s interesting writeup of a 2002 case recently decided, concerning <a href="http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?aid=304" rel="nofollow">GA melon workers</a>.  The firstmentioned lockedup worker matter involves a hamburger wholesaler and is in FL.</p>
<p>SF under current moderate leadership has authorized ordinances for restaurant workers guaranteeing health plans and mandating employer contributions, a proposed rule that has irked the professional organization of restauranteurs, who are prosecuting the matter in the region IX court in Pasadena; see <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/17/BA6R106R8O.DTL" rel="nofollow">Egelko’s article on the BushCo amicus status</a> in the case, in an article published today.</p>
<p>Also, I appreciate the findlaw link from klynn; I would characterize that Sentelle joined decision as less than a permanent, and would imagine EPIC to have ongoing interest in the similar Cheney energy taskforce consultations.  Maybe we will see more sunshine in government laws in the next congress as counterpoint to the past few years of executive on steroids.</p>
<p>There is one recipe in my archive that echoes the comments about molasses, above, better with a more purified ingredient, though probably suitable only for children, excess sugar, for people who allow children to have a lot of that.  </p>
<p>Re the ChicagoTimes link from reader, above, the article is hyperpolitical and jingoistic, but like bmaz’ skinny comment, reflects well on Ms. Hensley’s charitable pursuits.  Ew is right, though, the media’s reportage on these minutiae, to me, suggests more of the retrenchment and downsizing in treepulpbased media and vapidity based videosoundbiteconsciousness.</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/family-recipes/comment-page-2/#comment-64615</link>
		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great article, klynn. Thank you very much. So the court’s ruling didn’t come from custom or any sentimental context, which is what I was expecting. Fascinating. I wonder about the future, though. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PMs are not heads of state, so their wives are not First Ladies. (We have had one woman PM, briefly, but she was single at the time — divorced, actually.) The queen is head of state, and then there’s her rep in Canada, the governor general, also at the moment a woman (as was her predecessor), and in public, they walk first. So few of the PMs’ wives have tried the first-lady number; Mila Mulroney did, and Margaret Trudeau was more interesting than usual, but most have remained pretty private, including, also interestingly, Laureen Harper, who really seems to have a life of her own, and good for her.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, klynn. Thank you very much. So the court’s ruling didn’t come from custom or any sentimental context, which is what I was expecting. Fascinating. I wonder about the future, though. </p>
<p>PMs are not heads of state, so their wives are not First Ladies. (We have had one woman PM, briefly, but she was single at the time — divorced, actually.) The queen is head of state, and then there’s her rep in Canada, the governor general, also at the moment a woman (as was her predecessor), and in public, they walk first. So few of the PMs’ wives have tried the first-lady number; Mila Mulroney did, and Margaret Trudeau was more interesting than usual, but most have remained pretty private, including, also interestingly, Laureen Harper, who really seems to have a life of her own, and good for her.</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, I’ll just post the stories if anyone wants to read about Harper…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestar.com/article/414652&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thestar.com/article/414652&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestar.com/article/415398&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thestar.com/article/415398&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I’ll just post the stories if anyone wants to read about Harper…</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thestar.com/article/414652" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestar.com/article/414652</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.thestar.com/article/415398" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestar.com/article/415398</a></p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/family-recipes/comment-page-2/#comment-64613</link>
		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was reading about this in the Toronto Star yesterday and thought about linking to the story… I knew our friends up north would not fail to bring us “US” neighbors up to date on the raid. I said, “Wow!” when I read the headline…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And in terms of your question at 137… by law the position of First Lady is considered a part of the EO and is protected with Executive Privilege as such in the court’s eyes.  I posted about this a while back when discussing the legal  backing Cheney was using for his “Fourth Branch.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20020206.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20020206.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading about this in the Toronto Star yesterday and thought about linking to the story… I knew our friends up north would not fail to bring us “US” neighbors up to date on the raid. I said, “Wow!” when I read the headline…</p>
<p>And in terms of your question at 137… by law the position of First Lady is considered a part of the EO and is protected with Executive Privilege as such in the court’s eyes.  I posted about this a while back when discussing the legal  backing Cheney was using for his “Fourth Branch.” </p>
<p><a href="http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20020206.html" rel="nofollow">http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20020206.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/family-recipes/comment-page-2/#comment-64612</link>
		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PS: That should read “a president’s husband or wife.” Sorry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: That should read “a president’s husband or wife.” Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/family-recipes/comment-page-2/#comment-64611</link>
		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rhubarb sauce on white fish — I have to try that. What a good idea. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back to one of the other topics of the thread: Is First Lady an official position of some kind? It can’t be in the constitution. Is this just a question of custom, or was the position somehow instituted? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s true that political leaders’ spouses everywhere get paraded on certain occasions, but some First Ladies seem more official than others. This has to be a custom whose time is coming to an end. Clinton cracked the mould in some ways, but more by sharing her husband’s job than by distancing herself from it. It would be interesting to see a president’s wife some day just say, “Sorry — I’m too busy today.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhubarb sauce on white fish — I have to try that. What a good idea. </p>
<p>Back to one of the other topics of the thread: Is First Lady an official position of some kind? It can’t be in the constitution. Is this just a question of custom, or was the position somehow instituted? </p>
<p>It’s true that political leaders’ spouses everywhere get paraded on certain occasions, but some First Ladies seem more official than others. This has to be a custom whose time is coming to an end. Clinton cracked the mould in some ways, but more by sharing her husband’s job than by distancing herself from it. It would be interesting to see a president’s wife some day just say, “Sorry — I’m too busy today.”</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/family-recipes/comment-page-2/#comment-64610</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ooh. THat looks great (and I was just explaining to my aunt yesterday why I was more Irish than my Irish husband). Now I know what I’m going to do with the frozen rhubarb in the freezer between now and when I make my first fresh rhubarb pie…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh. THat looks great (and I was just explaining to my aunt yesterday why I was more Irish than my Irish husband). Now I know what I’m going to do with the frozen rhubarb in the freezer between now and when I make my first fresh rhubarb pie…</p>
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		<title>By: JTMinIA</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/family-recipes/comment-page-2/#comment-64609</link>
		<dc:creator>JTMinIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if my favorite recipe would help me or hurt me if I ran for public office in the US.  It’s called “Hindu Nightmare.”  It’s lamb saag made with beef.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know if my favorite recipe would help me or hurt me if I ran for public office in the US.  It’s called “Hindu Nightmare.”  It’s lamb saag made with beef.</p>
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		<title>By: MarieRoget</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/family-recipes/comment-page-2/#comment-64608</link>
		<dc:creator>MarieRoget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thought there might have been more re: the naming somewhere down the line, as per yr. comment @ 118. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Pigs in a White House” it is, then.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought there might have been more re: the naming somewhere down the line, as per yr. comment @ 118. </p>
<p>“Pigs in a White House” it is, then.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/16/family-recipes/comment-page-2/#comment-64607</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;MarieRoget &amp; kspena,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My Mother’s recipe does not state that one should peel the potatoes first, but she always did so. After all, how else do you make the “house” white?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Happy eating,&lt;br /&gt;
Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MarieRoget &amp; kspena,</p>
<p>My Mother’s recipe does not state that one should peel the potatoes first, but she always did so. After all, how else do you make the “house” white?</p>
<p>Happy eating,<br />
Bob in HI</p>
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