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		<title>By: WilliamOckham</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/15/doj-give-us-more-powers-because-we-f-up-so-often/#comment-64430</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamOckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I hope nobody took my endorsement of Jon Stewart to include Jack Goldsmith. Goldsmith has only slightly less culpability than Yoo and Bybee.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I hope nobody took my endorsement of Jon Stewart to include Jack Goldsmith. Goldsmith has only slightly less culpability than Yoo and Bybee.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;DOJ: Give Us More Powers Because We F*** Up So Often&lt;br /&gt;
By: emptywheel
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&lt;p&gt;this is interesting Marcy and I think you’ll appreciate it;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when the 9/11 commission made some recommendations, one was some kind of “terror czar”, a central figure who was authorized and charged with consolidating the information from all of our intelligence agencies&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the interesting thing about that position and how it relates to the title of your post is the fact that we already had that position only under a different title&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that position is the job description of the president&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;we know as a fact the president was indeed given all the information, in precise format, with accurate detail and with absolute urgency, all that was needed to avert the attack on 9/11&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he instead took vacation and didn’t care one stitch that his intelligence gathering agencies agent’s “hair was on fire” they were worried more then ever before&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so the president started this entire episode by being so inept he needed even more power &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how bizarre a scenario, the peter principle on steroids&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>DOJ: Give Us More Powers Because We F*** Up So Often<br />
By: emptywheel
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<p>this is interesting Marcy and I think you’ll appreciate it;</p>
<p>when the 9/11 commission made some recommendations, one was some kind of “terror czar”, a central figure who was authorized and charged with consolidating the information from all of our intelligence agencies</p>
<p>the interesting thing about that position and how it relates to the title of your post is the fact that we already had that position only under a different title</p>
<p>that position is the job description of the president</p>
<p>we know as a fact the president was indeed given all the information, in precise format, with accurate detail and with absolute urgency, all that was needed to avert the attack on 9/11</p>
<p>he instead took vacation and didn’t care one stitch that his intelligence gathering agencies agent’s “hair was on fire” they were worried more then ever before</p>
<p>so the president started this entire episode by being so inept he needed even more power </p>
<p>how bizarre a scenario, the peter principle on steroids</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Watched this with my son yesterday…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Glenn Greenwald &amp; Megan McArdle April 14&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/10187&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/10187&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My 15 year old said, ” I think Greenwald has a grasp on the historic role of the press in a democracy. McArdle? She’s got nothing. In the end it’s Greenwald 3, McArdle - goose egg!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had not said anything to him as to what I thought of the dialog (minus the many times my jaw dropped at a few of McArdle’s perspectives). My son, he’s got the take on this dialog spot on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you watch, keep heavy objects away from your hands and preferably no small children in the room (due to what you might yell at your monitor).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watched this with my son yesterday…</p>
<p>Glenn Greenwald &amp; Megan McArdle April 14</p>
<p><a href="http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/10187" rel="nofollow">http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/10187</a></p>
<p>My 15 year old said, ” I think Greenwald has a grasp on the historic role of the press in a democracy. McArdle? She’s got nothing. In the end it’s Greenwald 3, McArdle &#8211; goose egg!”</p>
<p>I had not said anything to him as to what I thought of the dialog (minus the many times my jaw dropped at a few of McArdle’s perspectives). My son, he’s got the take on this dialog spot on.</p>
<p>If you watch, keep heavy objects away from your hands and preferably no small children in the room (due to what you might yell at your monitor).</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT - I lack words adequate to describe the mental sensation this page’s “AT&amp;T Yahoo High Speed Internet” banner ad is giving me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT &#8211; I lack words adequate to describe the mental sensation this page’s “AT&amp;T Yahoo High Speed Internet” banner ad is giving me.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By the way, I saw some folks at FDL talking about Law of the Sea Goldsmith on Jon Stewart earlier as they were watching it on the east coast.  For the life of me, I don’t know why people keep holding this cluck out as some kind of admirable dude.  Although I had not seen it yet, I said this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Captain Jack “Law of the Sea” Goldsmith is a worthless puke just like the rest of them. There is absolutely nothing admirable about him. His actions in withdrawing and rewriting memos were almost certainly motivated by fear of having his own, Comey’s and other’s asses on the ethical firing line by way of the FISC, NOT out of their ethical and moral worthiness. The story he is peddling now is almost certainly complete revisionist history. Furhtermore he wrote his superceding documents, his book and has otherwise done everything in his power to exculpate his predecessors. He can go straight to hell with the rest of them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, I am watching The Daily Show now and, um, I will stick with my earlier opinion.  I know you are all shocked by that….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I saw some folks at FDL talking about Law of the Sea Goldsmith on Jon Stewart earlier as they were watching it on the east coast.  For the life of me, I don’t know why people keep holding this cluck out as some kind of admirable dude.  Although I had not seen it yet, I said this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Captain Jack “Law of the Sea” Goldsmith is a worthless puke just like the rest of them. There is absolutely nothing admirable about him. His actions in withdrawing and rewriting memos were almost certainly motivated by fear of having his own, Comey’s and other’s asses on the ethical firing line by way of the FISC, NOT out of their ethical and moral worthiness. The story he is peddling now is almost certainly complete revisionist history. Furhtermore he wrote his superceding documents, his book and has otherwise done everything in his power to exculpate his predecessors. He can go straight to hell with the rest of them.</p>
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<p>Well, I am watching The Daily Show now and, um, I will stick with my earlier opinion.  I know you are all shocked by that….</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We have our own kooky headliners here thank you very much; no need for your exports.  Take, for instance,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/13/20080413gordonarpaio0413.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Sheriff Joke Arpaio&lt;/a&gt;.  Please take him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have our own kooky headliners here thank you very much; no need for your exports.  Take, for instance,<a href="http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/13/20080413gordonarpaio0413.html" rel="nofollow"> Sheriff Joke Arpaio</a>.  Please take him.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Why is a comedian our best reporter (although I will admit that ex-sportscaster’s not bad)?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SUSH SUSH, Don’t call too much attention to it, We are about to send a Satirist to the US Senate. As Walter Mondale put it in late 2005, “many in Washington don’t know that they really do satire, or stand up comedy, so it is time for Minnesota to send them a real Professional.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By the way, we also have a restless free radical professional wrestler, addicted to independent Politics, … should any state have a need for such, comes complete with a fake claim to being a Navy Seal, with ghost written books, pink tights, and feather boas.  All serious offers considered.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Why is a comedian our best reporter (although I will admit that ex-sportscaster’s not bad)?”</p>
<p>SUSH SUSH, Don’t call too much attention to it, We are about to send a Satirist to the US Senate. As Walter Mondale put it in late 2005, “many in Washington don’t know that they really do satire, or stand up comedy, so it is time for Minnesota to send them a real Professional.” </p>
<p>By the way, we also have a restless free radical professional wrestler, addicted to independent Politics, … should any state have a need for such, comes complete with a fake claim to being a Navy Seal, with ghost written books, pink tights, and feather boas.  All serious offers considered.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And again I agree.  But the table has to be set, even if the meat isn’t to be put on it yet.  It is imperative, as you point out, for the discussion to be initiated.  That, however, is not being done.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And again I agree.  But the table has to be set, even if the meat isn’t to be put on it yet.  It is imperative, as you point out, for the discussion to be initiated.  That, however, is not being done.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In 1992 Clinton won by less than 50%, largely due to what Ross Perot extracted from the Popular vote.  In 96 he was re-elected by less than 50%.  That is not a strong hand to play when taking on a previous administration and attempting to prosecute some of their members, particularly if you know well that congress is iffy given retirements from the old democratic one-party south contingent, likely to be replaced by right wing Republicans.  Southern Strategy was about to be consumated in 1994, and Clinton had no responding semi-progressive strategy, (if he wanted one?) In fact between 92 and 94 he was spending DNC resources on trying to find a primary challenger for Paul Wellstone for 96, because he didn’t want a true progressive populist moving up a notch with a second term in the Senate. Bill Clinton had no intention of investigating anything before he won by that slim margin.  He was a pragmatic Pol.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You want something to happen after next November?  Well the demand for it needs to be on the table now, and around the edges people need to be talking about the matter.  No, not an electorial promise — we should be so stupid, but a political comprehension.  You can encompass both politics and the law in  “wrongdoers should not walk away with the fruit of their wrongs.”  You don’t have to promise Gitmo to everyone.  (as I said, I have my personal fantasy as to the proceedings on the Mall.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1992 Clinton won by less than 50%, largely due to what Ross Perot extracted from the Popular vote.  In 96 he was re-elected by less than 50%.  That is not a strong hand to play when taking on a previous administration and attempting to prosecute some of their members, particularly if you know well that congress is iffy given retirements from the old democratic one-party south contingent, likely to be replaced by right wing Republicans.  Southern Strategy was about to be consumated in 1994, and Clinton had no responding semi-progressive strategy, (if he wanted one?) In fact between 92 and 94 he was spending DNC resources on trying to find a primary challenger for Paul Wellstone for 96, because he didn’t want a true progressive populist moving up a notch with a second term in the Senate. Bill Clinton had no intention of investigating anything before he won by that slim margin.  He was a pragmatic Pol.  </p>
<p>You want something to happen after next November?  Well the demand for it needs to be on the table now, and around the edges people need to be talking about the matter.  No, not an electorial promise — we should be so stupid, but a political comprehension.  You can encompass both politics and the law in  “wrongdoers should not walk away with the fruit of their wrongs.”  You don’t have to promise Gitmo to everyone.  (as I said, I have my personal fantasy as to the proceedings on the Mall.)</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamOckham</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamOckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Daily Show just had the best segment on the Torture Conspiracy in the White House that I’ve seen. They had the relevant clips from the ABC report, Jon Stewart read from the Yoo Memo, and he interviewed Jack Goldsmith.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why is a comedian our best reporter (although I will admit that ex-sportscaster’s not bad)?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Daily Show just had the best segment on the Torture Conspiracy in the White House that I’ve seen. They had the relevant clips from the ABC report, Jon Stewart read from the Yoo Memo, and he interviewed Jack Goldsmith.</p>
<p>Why is a comedian our best reporter (although I will admit that ex-sportscaster’s not bad)?</p>
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