Comments on: It Turns Out There Was No Wolf http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:46:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61532 bmaz Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:32:51 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61532 <p>The answer is, well, you know, sealed.</p> The answer is, well, you know, sealed.

]]> By: maryo2 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61531 maryo2 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:31:26 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61531 <p>Sealed v. Sealed indictment, if it exists, is it affected by the GAO report?</p> Sealed v. Sealed indictment, if it exists, is it affected by the GAO report?

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61530 bmaz Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:25:57 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61530 <p>Fitz versus Starr is a no brainer. There is a big difference between Fitz and even the lower level investigations during Clinton, like Mike Espy (19 million), Henry Cisneros (21 million) Ron Brown (over 3 million before he died) etc.</p> <p>EW - Packers resigned Bigby and Seattle extended Lofa Tatupu. Roids it is for you….</p> Fitz versus Starr is a no brainer. There is a big difference between Fitz and even the lower level investigations during Clinton, like Mike Espy (19 million), Henry Cisneros (21 million) Ron Brown (over 3 million before he died) etc.

EW – Packers resigned Bigby and Seattle extended Lofa Tatupu. Roids it is for you….

]]> By: maryo2 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61529 maryo2 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:24:39 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61529 <p>Thanks, that information headed me in the right direction:<br /> “At the request of Condoleezza Rice, Ashcroft was briefed by the CIA on July 5 [2001] regarding the surge of information about an imminent terrorist attack.”<br /> <a href="http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0503c.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0503c.asp</a></p> Thanks, that information headed me in the right direction:
“At the request of Condoleezza Rice, Ashcroft was briefed by the CIA on July 5 [2001] regarding the surge of information about an imminent terrorist attack.”
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0503c.asp

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61527 emptywheel Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:13:53 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61527 <p>Hasn’t BillBell gotten around to replacing Rodney Roid with Atari Bigbee yet? It’s a good time to do it, too, while phred is otherwise occupied.</p> Hasn’t BillBell gotten around to replacing Rodney Roid with Atari Bigbee yet? It’s a good time to do it, too, while phred is otherwise occupied.

]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61526 Mary Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:09:59 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61526 <p>26 - it was run pretty tight, especially with travel. Starr should be embarrassed - although Starr did have a mandate for “the moon and more” If someone had that mandate and independence with the Bush admin - and limited themselves to the cream of the felony and criminal issues - I can’t imagine what we’d have.</p> 26 – it was run pretty tight, especially with travel. Starr should be embarrassed – although Starr did have a mandate for “the moon and more” If someone had that mandate and independence with the Bush admin – and limited themselves to the cream of the felony and criminal issues – I can’t imagine what we’d have.

]]> By: NCDem http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61523 NCDem Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:54:21 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61523 <blockquote><p>Is the illegal public surveillance dragnet related to the intelligence that caused Ashcroft to stop flying on commercial jets?</p></blockquote> <p>The simple answer is no. It is my understanding that after Richard Clarke warned Condi Rice and got her to stop looking into her make-up mirror, she asked Clark to give this briefing to others like Ashcroft. The briefing was about the possibility of terrorist hijacking a commercial flight (no reason given). Ashcroft then took upon himself to stop flying commercial flights. He was scared shitless.</p>

Is the illegal public surveillance dragnet related to the intelligence that caused Ashcroft to stop flying on commercial jets?

The simple answer is no. It is my understanding that after Richard Clarke warned Condi Rice and got her to stop looking into her make-up mirror, she asked Clark to give this briefing to others like Ashcroft. The briefing was about the possibility of terrorist hijacking a commercial flight (no reason given). Ashcroft then took upon himself to stop flying commercial flights. He was scared shitless.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61521 bmaz Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:45:06 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61521 <p>Hope those roids haven’t hurt <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7977184/NFL-adopts-defensive-communication-device" rel="nofollow">Rodney’s hearing</a>!</p> Hope those roids haven’t hurt Rodney’s hearing!

]]> By: looseheadprop http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61520 looseheadprop Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:44:05 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61520 <p>I was wondering that myself.</p> <p>I used to go the NYC Buget heraings with the Commissioner of the first agency I worked for. he would always hide an item or two (or ten) ineach art of the buget that he could sacrifice (like a chess piece) to keep the things he really wanted. </p> <p>I think they will trade away an expansion of power in exchange for retroatice immunity and call it a substantial compromise.</p> <p>Blerg (as Christy would say)</p> I was wondering that myself.

I used to go the NYC Buget heraings with the Commissioner of the first agency I worked for. he would always hide an item or two (or ten) ineach art of the buget that he could sacrifice (like a chess piece) to keep the things he really wanted.

I think they will trade away an expansion of power in exchange for retroatice immunity and call it a substantial compromise.

Blerg (as Christy would say)

]]> By: MartyDidier http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/comment-page-1/#comment-61519 MartyDidier Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:00:04 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/04/01/it-turns-out-there-was-no-wolf/#comment-61519 <p>Frankly, I don’t feel that in McCaine’s case with his Daddy was a big Admiral offers anything of value. Clearly to me, our Politcal system comprises of only two groups. Those who want the Constitution and those who don’t. I personally know of other issues from being in a family for more than 26 years who are actively involved in criminal activities for those who DON’T want the Constitution that something else is at work. What many seem to see appears to be theatrics for our amusement and it seems to work well.</p> <p>Marty Didier<br /> Northbrook, IL</p> Frankly, I don’t feel that in McCaine’s case with his Daddy was a big Admiral offers anything of value. Clearly to me, our Politcal system comprises of only two groups. Those who want the Constitution and those who don’t. I personally know of other issues from being in a family for more than 26 years who are actively involved in criminal activities for those who DON’T want the Constitution that something else is at work. What many seem to see appears to be theatrics for our amusement and it seems to work well.

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL

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