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	<title>Comments on: Not Even John Yoo Approved of the Illegal Wiretap Program</title>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sometimes, you just wish more Americans knew a bit more about the ‘not gay’ Roman Emperor Hadrian.  Or the bisexual Alexander the Great.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither of whom, IMHO, would have blundered into Iraq, bellowed about Iran, nor denied  Global Warming.  And they distinguished between tactics and strategy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Condi, Christ, etc… not so much.&lt;br /&gt;
Sigh….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, you just wish more Americans knew a bit more about the ‘not gay’ Roman Emperor Hadrian.  Or the bisexual Alexander the Great.</p>
<p>Neither of whom, IMHO, would have blundered into Iraq, bellowed about Iran, nor denied  Global Warming.  And they distinguished between tactics and strategy.</p>
<p>Condi, Christ, etc… not so much.<br />
Sigh….</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So Impeachment is of the table.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then the Constitution is of the table.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Impeachment is a duty when high crimes and misdameanors are alleged.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At that point the investigation is supposed to begin. The allegations were made by Dennis Kucinich in HR.333&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pelosi is an implementer for Bushco and his mob connects, She rates up there with all time bimbo old douche bags. That’s right if you follow the crimes trail multiple paths only real thugs without conscience do what&lt;br /&gt;
Bushco has done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She is the firewall to all his implementers she is complicit, She cannot say “Father forgive me for I know not what I dodo”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>So Impeachment is of the table.</strong></p>
<p>Then the Constitution is of the table.</p>
<p>Impeachment is a duty when high crimes and misdameanors are alleged.</p>
<p>At that point the investigation is supposed to begin. The allegations were made by Dennis Kucinich in HR.333</p>
<p>Pelosi is an implementer for Bushco and his mob connects, She rates up there with all time bimbo old douche bags. That’s right if you follow the crimes trail multiple paths only real thugs without conscience do what<br />
Bushco has done.</p>
<p>She is the firewall to all his implementers she is complicit, She cannot say “Father forgive me for I know not what I dodo”</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;124- I didn’t know it was a Blackwater related plane or if I should have (from reading Grey’s book) I forgot.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Presidential Airways.  Mr. Pepsico can be proud it wasn’t something shameful, like “Dictator Flappingarmsfast”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>124- I didn’t know it was a Blackwater related plane or if I should have (from reading Grey’s book) I forgot.  </p>
<p>Presidential Airways.  Mr. Pepsico can be proud it wasn’t something shameful, like “Dictator Flappingarmsfast”</p>
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		<title>By: neurophius</title>
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		<dc:creator>neurophius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John McCain supports torture of human beings by the United States of America, so a McSame presidency would presumably bring more of the same…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John McCain:&lt;br /&gt;
Worse than Bush&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain supports torture of human beings by the United States of America, so a McSame presidency would presumably bring more of the same…</p>
<p><strong>John McCain:<br />
Worse than Bush</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Smgumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smgumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;irreverence?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Certainly you jest!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>irreverence?</p>
<p>Certainly you jest!</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
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		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Thompson, as acting Attorney General (because Ashcroft was traveling) is the guy who expressly signed off on sending Maher Arar to Syrian torture&lt;/b&gt;. He owns every minute of that terror flight and everything that happened to that man and the degredation of using the Dept. of Justice to accomplish torture …&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One little bit of trivia most people don’t know of, is that the plane used to rendition Maher Arar to Syria was/is owned by Presidential Airways … &lt;a href=&quot;http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/10760&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;maybe you know them by the name of their parent company … &lt;b&gt;Blackwater&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><b>Thompson, as acting Attorney General (because Ashcroft was traveling) is the guy who expressly signed off on sending Maher Arar to Syrian torture</b>. He owns every minute of that terror flight and everything that happened to that man and the degredation of using the Dept. of Justice to accomplish torture …</p>
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<p>One little bit of trivia most people don’t know of, is that the plane used to rendition Maher Arar to Syria was/is owned by Presidential Airways … <a href="http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/10760" rel="nofollow">maybe you know them by the name of their parent company … <b>Blackwater</b></a></p>
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		<title>By: yellowdogD</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellowdogD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But having the comments on visiting blog open visiting blogger to the irreverance of those notorious Firepups.  /g&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But having the comments on visiting blog open visiting blogger to the irreverance of those notorious Firepups.  /g</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think a train wreck is more apropo…!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a train wreck is more apropo…!</p>
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		<title>By: JoFish</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Could these asshats have possibly done any more utterly illegal stuff than what is slowly seeping out? Short answer: yes.  It’s like seeing a car wreck… you hate to look, but you do anyhow knowing you’ll be horrified and fascinated at the same time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could these asshats have possibly done any more utterly illegal stuff than what is slowly seeping out? Short answer: yes.  It’s like seeing a car wreck… you hate to look, but you do anyhow knowing you’ll be horrified and fascinated at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, no that is not correct.  The sole limitation in Article II, Section 2 of the constitution is impeachment.  The President&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;…shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There has never been a case of a president attempting to pardon himself, so there is nothing to prevent the attempt.  When I say it would not stand up to scrutiny, that is merely based on the hope that SCOTUS would find it impermissibly a conflict of interest.  With Scalia on the Court, that may be wishful thinking.  There is absolutely nothing standing in the way of Bush attempting it though, and some Constitutional scholars believe it would be valid.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no that is not correct.  The sole limitation in Article II, Section 2 of the constitution is impeachment.  The President</p>
<blockquote><p>…shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.</p>
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<p>There has never been a case of a president attempting to pardon himself, so there is nothing to prevent the attempt.  When I say it would not stand up to scrutiny, that is merely based on the hope that SCOTUS would find it impermissibly a conflict of interest.  With Scalia on the Court, that may be wishful thinking.  There is absolutely nothing standing in the way of Bush attempting it though, and some Constitutional scholars believe it would be valid.</p>
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