And here’s the thing. Anyone who would openly associate with such a deceitful group of people as the current republican party. This cross the lines and screw up the dem primary is just open dishonesty, illegal according to the laws in some states, and all in all petty, small, and malicious. They’ve become a goup of sociopaths. For such large numbers of people to be gleefully lead into unethical behavior is just galling.

I’ve always said that the third reich is always with us. The right guy can always find enough followers willing to commit heinious acts. This pales in comparison, but it shows you how some people’s desire to follow is stronger than their internal desire to be ethical, or kind, or even to think.

And yeah, a whole lot of people though Fl, and MI, and texas for that matter – wouldn’t matter. It’s all going to come down to the super delegates anyway. Those states wouldn’t have changed that. Honestly, I think the best thing to do is move on, If Hillary wasn’t so damned, “me first.” It wouldn’t be that big a deal. It was a low level hum, until Hill figured out she was losing and stirred the pot, putting her interest again ahead of he common good. I’ll vote for whomever is the dem nominee, but I sure hope it’s Barrack.

No wonder Clinton supports re-votes – any way you go, this whole mess cuts in her favor. Bottom line – it’s a cluster, but it can’t be fixed. Perhaps the DNC could hire an unbiased firm to do a poll in secret, and then seat delegates accordingly – OH the howls that would bring.

So how is it done. How can it be done to where those voters have a true and unstained voice. I don’t think it can, which leaves us perhaps better off just moving on.

And there’s no way in hell, we can have those primaries with unvoted Republicans allowed to vote in them – for the exact and correct reasons stated by the Obama campaign.

The only reasonable way this could be done would be with primaries or caucuses limited to voting by democrats registered at the time of the original primaries. I’m not sure if they register by party in either state, I think they don’t, and if that’s the case. The vote would have to be limited to actual party members.

Hillary could give a damn about the voters in those states, the time for her to speak up for them passed long ago, before super tuesday. Obama’s concerns are very legitimate – and particularly in Florida the Republicans will make sure to disenfrancise the democratic voters just as they did to some extent here in Texas.

The voters in those states knew what the punishment would be before those primaries were held. The DNC is a party organization, they set the rules for participation and the leaders of two states chose not to follow those rules. The voters went along without protest or debate. This is not about disenfranchisement. This is about effective governance within a party, and so far I’m proud of the DNC for sticking to their guns.

I’m open if a fair way can be found to do it, but I’m afraid the ship has sailed – those states forfeted their right to participate in the national convention, their actions, not disenfranchisment. And I’m a little put out by the fact that people outside of Florida, and Campains all the sudden pretending to care about the poor disenfranchised Florida Democrats. Those Florida Democrats need to roll some heads inside their state organizations. Then they can come present a fair proposal and beg for mercy. Any thing else is just delegate hunting – you watch, Hillary will oppose any plan that keeps Republicans from voting in those primaries. Just watch.

That southern white racist pharacees – who gives a shit what he thinks. I was just livid, then the 700 club came on and it was all pat and how god gives back more money than you donate and all that clap trap nonsense. I didn’t know 700 club was on MSNBC during the day. I also didn’t know pat was a nutrition expert. Jesus H – Christmas. I could have lived my whole life without seeing that. I finally got up and turned it off. MSNBC and an hours of pat, Liberal Media, yeah. Excuse me I need to go puke, again.