The Consumerist has posted the testimony of one of the credit card customers, Steven Autrey, who had planned to testify before Congress last week until Congressman Bachus insisted that Autrey agree allow his own financial history to be made public before he could testify.
The NFL does not allow one team, in the midst of the fourth quarter, to unilaterally move their end zone 20 yards in their favor just because they don't like the point spread. The rules are laid out before the kickoff, and the umpires enforce the same rules for both home and visiting teams for the whole contest. It's time for legislation at the federal level that tells the credit card industry, "Game Over" to unilateral, one-sided, rule changes.
As a registered Republican, it has typically been my philosophy that business and commerce flourish and perform better with minimal government interference. However, when an industry sector proves time and again that it is unable to police itself and behave and engage in fair and ethical trade practices, legislative intervention is required.
With some progress in our consumer credit laws, and reform of the monopolistic credit scoring cartel controlled by the Fair, Isaac, and Company ("FICO"), perhaps once again consumers can have a level playing field in doing business with credit card issuers.
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And while Congress was demanding that consumers forgo all financial privacy in order to have the right to speak to Congress, the US was helping to bail out Bear Stearns. Only, that didn't work out so well--Bear Stearns is as we speak desperately trying to sell itself before the markets open tomorrow (they're opening already in Asia).
Bear Stearns Cos. was closing in on a deal Sunday afternoon to sell itself to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., as worries deepened that the financial crisis of confidence could spread if Bear failed to find a buyer by Monday morning.
People familiar with the discussions said all sides were pushing hard to complete an agreement before financial markets in Asia open for Monday trading. "None of these things is done until they're done," Treasury Department spokeswoman Michele Davis said Sunday afternoon. "But I think everyone's expectation is sometime in the early evening hopefully" the deal will be done.
Terms of the deal were still being hammered out Sunday afternoon. Reflecting the dire situation at Bear, the company is likely to fetch considerably less on a per-share basis than its stock price of $30 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading Friday at 4 p.m. Last year, the shares hit $170.
One stumbling point appeared to be the amount of risk that J.P. Morgan would absorb in any type of transaction. While J.P. Morgan is eager to snap up some of Bear Stearns assets -- such as its prime brokerage business that caters to hedge funds -- Chief Executive Officer James Dimon was reluctant to pursue the deal without certain assurances that would protect his firm's exposure, said people familiar with the matter.
Despite the emergency funding from J.P. Morgan and the Federal Reserve that was announced Friday and gives Bear access to cash for an initial period of 28 days, the clock is ticking against the 85-year-old company. Regulators, bankers and investors are concerned that the firm could plummet even further when markets open Monday. A continued exodus by parties that Bear trades with could even cause the investment bank to collapse.
There is something very wrong with this picture. I understand the efforts to bail Bear Stearns out. I understand this is going to get much much worse. But as it does, we need to foreground the real people who are at the end of the process.
Update: JPM got Bear Stearns for the rock bottom price of $2 a share. Wow.
Update: They used the words "huge discount" in the headline. That doesn't even begin to describe it.
Bear Stearns, facing collapse because of the mortgage crisis, agreed Sunday evening to be bought by JPMorgan Chase for a bargain-basement price of less than $250 million, the two companies announced.
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emptywheel,
What is wrong with this picture is that it presupposes that Bear Stearns is an isolated case. It isn’t. We’re still at the setting up of the dominoes part of this, they haven’t really begun to fall yet.
It really is true, today, that there are tens of millions of “homeowners” out there with less than zero equity, and we are probably no more than months away from doubling that. Once people really deeply understand how the tradeoffs between continuing to make payments on a mortgage on a house that they will not be able to sell at a profit, and walking away and starting over — there is going to be a tidal wave of foreclosures, and tens of trillions of dollars are going to evaporate.
Bear is getting out while it’s still possible to get out.
Thad
Yup.
Somehow they love domino theories until they hit Wall Street.
See the update–the sale went through, $2/share.
Good to see you hit the main points, which are that (a) as to big businesses we privatize profits, and socialize losses and (b) Republicans are frickin’ hypocrites.
But, here’s a couple more.
1. Bailing out Bear is not going to help matters. If anything, it’s going to make things worse, because everyone else in the world is going to see clearly that Bushco is more concerned with making sure his base - “the Haves and the Have Mores” - is taken care of than anyone else. As that realization sinks in (if it hasn’t already) it’s going to be every man for himself.
2. The Dollar will continue to crater. A few minutes before I write tis, German radio reported in their midnight news (they’re still on standard time) that the Euro is in the hunt for a new record as trading opened in New Zealand.
What does it tell you (or anyone) about the seriousness of the situation when the beginning of trading in New Frickin’ Zealand is a lead item in the radio news of midnight Sunday into Monday?
3. From the 1997 meltdown - an NYC friend related to me that, during that crisis, one of the regular customers of the store where he worked (selling fishing gear) was Rubin (if it wasn’t Rubin, it was Summers) who came in enroute from A to B in the City during the midday. In the middle of buying something or other (a five minute transaction) his beeper went off and he had to borrow the phone in the store. Part of saving the world in 1997 entailed his standing at a wall-mounted phone for the better part of the afternoon talking to one person after another trying (ultimately successfully) to unscrew that day’s part of the financial crisis. After a while, they gave him a chair. I see neither Bernanke nor the current SecTreas (whatever that cipher’s name is) doing anything similar - no urgency, no working the phones, no nothing.
This is the Hoover administration, writ large.
And, what are the Democrats doing or saying? They’re fighting over whether Obama’s minister is too harsh, not harsh enough, or just right. When they could be making hay out of the facts that the economy is going to hell in a handbasket before the Republicans’ eyes (and on their watch) and McBush’s touted success in Iraq is so thorough that he has to sneak into the country by the back way, in secret.
Bullsh*t. It’s time for Edwards (or similarly-minded Dems and 527s) to start pushing his economic issues -loud, in public and in the Rethugs’ (and Dems’) faces. Spend some gelt on ads - to shock the Dems to their senses and to cudgel the Rethugs. Among other things.
Did you say $2/share?
It was $30, Friday.
That’s what Sean Paul said, yes. $2/share.
The sale is now up on the Gray Lady.
Ouch. $2/share. And not in cash.
Interestingly, Buffett was not (to my knowledge) part of anything. Seems like KKR was looking, shopping, but not buying. Smarter guys.
I speculate it’s possible Morgan bought because someone had to and there’s likely some backdoor deal to back them up for taking on Bear.
It’s not every day that $250 million will buy you a huge finance company.
Though it may be every day for the next several weeks.
In order to have a wee chance at financial security, Wall Street should enter the Lottery business and let us Main Street folks wager on the actual date/time of the “tipping point” into the next Great Depression.
Twould be just my luck that said “tipping point” already occurred when Junya and Deadeye first
stoletook the oath of office, but I still want that as my Lottery number.And msnbc has a banner up that the Fed just did a quarter-point rate cute. On a Sunday?
Oh my.
It’s Christmas for Bears Sterns execs: they’ll get those bonuses they so richly deserve: they got Bears Sterns a first sip at the Federal Reserve trough while there still are reserves, they convinced the Feds to take subprime mortages as security for the loans (!!!), and they’ll make privatized profit on the short of the $200 billion taxpayer bailout. They’ll deserve those bonuses for such a scam, don’cha know?
The Bear Stearns building alone is worth about$1.4BB. So the rest of the company was valued negative.
Bear Stearns’ building in Manhattan is worth at least $1billion - the price paid by JP Morgan can only be truly evaluated when it discloses what liabilities it assumed from BS, if any. There seems to be a Potemkin Purchase going on here - if BS had been an insolvent bank, the FDIC would have gone in and liquidated and that would have been it. The real issue for BS was how its default would have cascaded with derivative exposure.
Heck, why not. They were at the office anyway having their Sunday Garage Sale.
Our posts crossed - Manhattan real estate may be one of the few places left that will have value when this shakes out!
As recently as February, Bear Stearns was trading about $85/share.
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Yeah, and I been seeing this particular comment over and over again:
To which I call Bullshit, Bullshit and Bullshit some more!
Repeatedly calling it the “truest measure of the financial health” does not make it so.
They might have gotten a nice 54 story office tower on Mad Ave (per today’s NYDN estimated to be worth about $1.2 Billion) in the deal.
If so, that means the value of Bear was, um, seriously negative.
Or not.
Yup. It was. But it was down from, what, $170 a year ago?
If Wall Street were a Latin American country, and it had to go to the IMF for a bailout instead of the Fed and friendly Hank Paulson at the Treasury Dept., any bailout money would be made contingent on “market reforms”. I know I don’t need to ask why the same concessions were not requested from Wall Street for this bailout and the ones that will happen soon. The Citigroup exposure is the scariest.
If a Sunday-evening rate cut (not even waiting two days for the previously planned Tuesday Fed meeting) doesn’t say panic, I don’t know what does.
The actual sale is still subject to shareholder approval, so if you were worried about BSC as a counterparty, it’s still not a done deal. BSC is one of the largest derivatives clearinghouses, meaning they are counterparty to both sides of the trades. So their servers will doubtless still have a crushing traffic load of people closing positions tomorrow.
See what happens when you turn your economy into one where there is only consumption and intangibles being produced?
We manufacture nothing (worth talking about, in dollar terms).
And, Ishmael, if Wall Street were a Latin American country, there’d be people hanging from lampposts already.
Yes.
The discipline of the markets is for the little people.
Time to buy stock in Tums, Pepto and the distiller of your choice.
Am I nuts for posting this?
Maybe this will force Congress to force Bush to pull the troops out of Iraq?
My favorite comment on the deal at calculatedrisk: transcript of the final thirty seconds of the buyout negotiations.
When BS and Citigroup and the rest go to a sovereign wealth fund in Dubai, the fund gets a piece of the company in exchange for the equity infusion. And the Fed, in exchange for $200 Billion, gets the crap collateral that caused the problem in the first place. Heckuva job Hank!
Wiping fluids off monitor.
I think the campaigns have been staying away from this, for fear of being accused of putting a price on national security (”millions for defence, but not one penny for tribute!”), but the direct costs of Iraq, ten billion plus a month, plus the oil premium, and the effect that the war is having on inflation may make this a very potent argument very soon.
Yes, you’re nuts.
But I’m hoping this week generates some support for Darcy Burner’s out of Iraq option.
Besides, this gives anti-war people a new metric. Each month in Iraq costs 40 Bears Stearns.
It may turn out that Chris Wallace was actually being “Faux Noise” kind to Paulson when he *shock* actually grilled him today
Not only a rate cut. From the JPM announcement by way of calculatedrisk:
So 1 Friedman = 240 Bear Stearns = much moral hazard.
Splendid.
JPM pays $250 million.
And we pay $30 billion:
Oops, crossed with you.
This is what they paid $30BB for (same source, sorry next time I’ll try to line up my ducks in one post):
That’s what it’s all about. Not saving Bear per se–avoiding a one-day unwinf of $14 trillion.
So, further to my Potemkin analogy from before, JPM is the cutout that allows the Fed to say that this is not a nationalization of BS? Except that on Wall Street bizarro world, a nationalization is not one of assets, but of liabilities by the government.
Yeah - I figured they couldn’t make the deal go without fed money in it.
Yahoo finance tells me the New Zealand 50, now open about 2 hours, is down 1.68% from open.
So any bets where the DOW will open tomorrow?
Above or below 10,000?
Seoul and the Aussie All Ordinaries, down similarly - 1.68-1.70 percent.
I haven’t checked but the Dow futures market will give you an accurate guesstimate.
Down.
How far - anyone’s guess. Depends on how the markets interpret the Bear deal.
The chart tells me the All Ordinaries showed a rapid drop and what looked like a recovery almost to opening, probably contemporaneous with the Bear deal being announced, followed by a more gradual decline.
I’d watch Shanghai and Hong Kong to see how the Chinese take this - if they go into panic mode it’s “Katie, bar the door.”
Dow futures down 300 since the announcement,
Japanese markets down 1 perecent on open.
Euro up to $1.5773 on early Japanes trading.
My take is that JPM is the cutout that has half-a-trillion in cash. To keep that $14T in place for an “orderly runoff”, you need a player with a boatload of cash that people will trust.
I really think Ben Bernanke is just doing whatever it takes to avoid declaring a bank holiday this week. He’s willing to act now and survey the damage later.
Dow-wise, I think they’re lucky it’s opening at all.
This is interesting from calculated risk…
That’s pretty harsh. I don’t know that it’s that bad.
Singapore is up, BTW.
Actually, a bank holiday would be likely the single worst thing he could do. What confidence is left in the US economy and the idiots in charge of it would be totally blown away if he declared one - and likely the world economic system would not be able to recover from it for years to come.
On Ian’s excellent post yesterday at the Lake, I’d jokingly said it’ll be Black Monday, now, I’m worried it will be…!
So Bear Stearns was leveraging $1:$31 and things have gone belly up? Sad, really. For a while there, Wall Street made gambling seem ‘respectable’, even ‘patriotic’.
Color me seriously confused, but am I the only one here who smells a citizen rebellion coming on?
As for Bernacke and the rest of the Mighty Giants, they’re like itty, bitty cartoon characters waving their arms and helpless in the face of a tidal wave. Moral hazard, indeed.
hey .. what’s 30 billion . just leave the printing presses running overnight and ..natch .. ya got it ..
nothing backs our currency right now but the now empty phrase “full faith and credit of the united states” …
buckle up .. zip up your flak jackets and hang on .. it’s going to be a long slide to the bottom …
Well, the one thing that got forgotten as all those brokers and bankers who’d had first-hand or second-hand experience with the Great Depression either quit, retired or died, was the seriously bad things that can happen with too much leverage.
Remember, over-leverage was for many years considered the single worst thing a banker or broker could do in terms of exposure.
But, what once were vices became, in Republican economics, habits of the virtuous. And we are where we are now, because of that.
Hey, we don’t need no stinking printing presses, we’ve got dollar shaped electrons now! Step right up for your wire transfer. (offer good only if you are a private entity, no ’socialist’ progressives need apply).
To add to this: a UK bank is apparently interested in buying into WaMu, which is holding a whole Saganload of mortgage crap.
And Congress and this maladministration were so afraid of what they’d find if they made the hedge funds actually report properly … they should have done it then, so the shock would have been over with sooner, and before things got worse.
Actually, this isn’t my field and so I had no idea, but it makes sense. I have the book by Yusuf (about Grameen Bank), and this looks like an excellent time for ideas like his to gain relevance.
scribe @24:
Yup.
Not to worry; I’m sure they’ll blame it all on George Soros.
(rolling eyeballs here…)
Oops. Even the golden boys at
Goldman Sachs can’t outfox this market.
hey .. i’m an old fashioned kind of guy .. i like the smell of fresh green ink .. how dare you deprive me of such a simple pleasure .. lol
this is what happens when we make speculation cost free to the speculator .. the fat cats fueling this mess need to get a cold shower .. not a warm blanket and government (taxpayer) purchased pacifier to tide them over ’til their next dividend check ..
Thank you!!
Will you be running for Congress?
Or only making sure they ‘get this message’?
At ratios of 1:31, I resent being asked to bail out profligate stupidity.
So is the big crash gonna happen tomorrow? Oh boy. Seems like the Feds are panicking along with everyone else.
I know zero about the stock market, but I am getting a feeling the future isn’t looking too bright at the moment.
RobZuber just posted this comment on FDL a few minutes ago:
http://firedoglake.com/2008/03.....nt-1339223
Will it go down in history as the St. Patrick’s Day Massacre? Inquiring minds want to know!
Professor and CTuttle–some commenters at calculatedrisk believe that this was a “backhanded” (my word) bailout of JP Morgan–NOT Bear Stearns. Thoughts?
So what’s going to happen to Putnam … isn’t that subsidiary a bigger issue than the hedge funds and investment banking part of BS?
Probably talking through my hat - economics not my field. But, I work for a divison of JPMChase -my impression has been (and I don’t just read the company’s spun communications to employees) that JPMC held far fewer of the mortgage-backed securities than the other banks - such as WaMu - and therefore had far less exposure. The stock price has, I believe, gone up some while other banks’ stocks have been going down.
So probably not a back door bailout of JPMC. (I sure hope not. The best thing about my job is knowing that my paycheck will be deposited on time and it will be cashable.)
Actually, I’m guessing that “argument” could probably be made for almost any of the big investment banks today. They all have at least some nasty stuff sitting on their balance sheet and would like a way to get rid of it. Even Goldman Sachs.
Dang, how true, good thing I’ve decided to boil my flat of corned beef already, and the fixings are all prepped…!
*gah* Greenspan speaketh…
Be afraid, be very afraid…
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/edbd.....fd2ac.html
Gosh, he’s brilliant. Someone should hire him for his foresight and managerial skills…
This could be a very bad week. Bear Stearns has essentially been liquidated — with taxpayer money. But, the panic may still spread.
Tea Leaf .. as a possesser of a small dose of horse-sense .. i am constitutionally barred from holding public office ..
i’m sure the gub’mint will tell us this is a necessary evil to prevent a collapse of the “system” .. but imo ..wall street is a corrupt system .. the big wigs with the capital can call the shots and suffer a loss .. it’s the little guys who get wiped out..
pulled everything .. lock stock and barrel out of the market the day george bush got the ock on the republican nomination .. went liquid to gold and silver .. my C.P.A. thought he need to get my wife to sign commitment papers .. but boy ..was i lucky .. first time i ever got it right ….
Your shares will arrive in the mail in 6-8 weeks.
Bobby, I’ve been reading waaay too much about this the past few weeks. I think it will be very very bad. As usual, the normal people will suffer the most. I really feel for the “worker bees” at Bear Stearns.
Smart decision with gold at $1K an ounce…!
LOL. My stocks have been fucking hammered. Same for my IRA accounts.
great! now he gets it after he helped fuel it!
i’ve decided i’ll die in the classroom before my retirement fund will see the light of day again
Precisely why he’d do anything to avoid one!
I the Fed stared down the barrel of a $14T mother-of-all-unwinds (which also would have takens years to recover from) and blinked.
nb I’ve no inside info at all, I’m just a physicist, but one who knows how to read a 10-K…so to your comment martha, I think JPM is one of the financial institutions in the best shape right now (looking at current assets / current liabilities ratio) and that’s precisely why they were chosen. Given the $30B Fed backstop, if I were a JPM shareholder I’d probably be outright pleased about the deal.
Jkat, smart move.
FWIW, I think we’re way outside what anyone expected.
The map is probably changing by the minute, and it is almost certainly NOT the territory. The territory is probably a blur these days; lots of phony analogies will be offered to try and prevent panic.
No doubt the End Times believers will feel vindicated. That’s also scary, if it gives them any credence (!). Yikes 8
Sorry? I don’t get the full meaning here…?
I’m not sure I’d accept anything reported on the balance sheet in the way of assets or liabilities right now … especially financial institutions. It’s a bit hocus pocus what with estimated reserves for loan losses and assets not marked to market. When was the last time they were up for CAMEL?
Sh*t, he steered us on to the reef, not just fueled it…!
Thanks Professor, that’s what I thought. mr. martha is the king of reading 10-K’s…I’ve been learning the finer points from him lately.
This is what Nouriel Roubini is saying:
The problem is no longer merely sub-prime mortgages, but rather a “sub-prime” financial system. The housing recession – the worst in US history and worsening every day – will eventually see house prices fall by more than 20 percent, with millions of Americans losing their homes. Delinquencies, defaults, and foreclosures are now spreading from sub-prime to near-prime and prime mortgages. Thus, total losses on mortgage-related instruments – include exotic credit derivatives such as collateralized debt obligations (CDOs) – will add up to more than $400 billion
that’s going out a limb … what’s going to happen if they fail other than the debt just falls away and gets monetized?
So a question arises: who in the Bush administration is beholden to JPMorgan Chase, and stands to gain by delivering this windfall to a private company?
Or is it just business as usual — i.e. pillaging the economy to enrich private corporations in general?
Neither would JPM–that’s why they required $30BB from the fed!
naww .. believe it was just dumb luck .. i had a small stock portfoilo which came my way by way of a vested retirement account from a former employer.. and i din’t like the way our republican brothers in the US house were casually talking about letting Social security go belly up .. what it got me to thinking was .. if these folks will casually talk about defaulting on that system .. how far can i trust them on general obligations .. the upshot of it all was to go straight liquid ..
to the other poster .. yeah .. gold is worth $1k an oz. .. the trouble with that is the $ .. we’ve been printing two billion “excess dollars” a day every day the bushies have been in office .. to finance the conservative dream of smaller government and to fight wars while still cutting taxes .. at some point the piper has to be paid .. paid with what seems to still be the question ..
i’ve no doubt there will be a meltdown .. there is no top without a bottom ..
The long answer is “yes.”
He thinks housing prices are going to stop before they’ve dropped 30 to 40 percent, at least in some areas? (They’re already hitting the 20 percent markdown around LA, but they’ve been insane here for years.)
That was about what I said when the ‘tax rebate’ was announced - ‘where are they going to get the money for it? Because we’re already broke.’
on the credit card hearing:
A burning question is why did the Dems let this happen, above all the feisty feaaless (Boston for fearless) Barney Frank.
I did some digging and reported the results on his and his committee’s position.
Nada. nothing. zero
My googling + videos results, some of them funny are posted on
http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....553/477447
I have alo posted Academic witness Elizabeth Warren’s bibliography and a link to her bibliography there.
Excuses for comment pimping, but this save my time and space on this server.
Basically, the FED felt it had no choice in the matter. This is a bit like ensuring the gears of capitalism haven’t run out of grease. Failure of a huge institution like this left alone would have an impact on the credit markets unlike anything we’ve seen since the great depression!
By this upcoming weekend, we may not care one whit about the Bu’ush “tax rebate” or what Geraldine Ferraro said or what Obama’s preacher said or what Hillary’s negative spinners said, we may all be wondering just where all of our 401k money and IRA money went, and whether we have any recourse about getting any of it back.
I absolutely cannot believe it. Bernanke got nothing for this bail-out. Bear Stearns had a book value of $80 per share. I know they had a huge pile of toxic mortgage backed securities, but they had already written them down, and they can’t be totally worthless in the long run. They had a very valuable building in Manhattan. They had a bunch of valuable businesses besides the main business, including a good prime brokerage business, and a strong back office business.
The problem isn’t that the asset-backed securities are worthless, its just that right now, we don’t know what they’re worth. Even so, JP Morgan wouldn’t do the deal unless the Fed guaranteed 30bn of those assets. And the taxpayer gets nothing for this? WTF.
They’ve got Putnam though … that has to have some value. The investment banking business would have been shot, but there still must be valid assets in the Putnam investments
it’s called letting the mint presses wide open …
he’s slowing down a meltdown of the capital markets … if Bear Sterns hadn’t been bailed out, panic would ensue in nearly all markets
Par for the course, as was mentioned earlier, Privatize the Profit, Socialize the Losses…:(
i have so many thoughts on bear stearns.
none of them pleasant. be back tomorrow
with those — but i suspect the fed rate
cut will not prevent a 200 point down day
in the market overall — this has the smell
of panic all over it. . . dripping with it.
sorry to break slightly O/T, but. . .
will a u.s. district court judge
sitting in colorado, make sure that
the same rules of law apply to dick
cheney, as applied to bill clinton,
when was the sitting 42nd president?
that is — will he allow a subpoena
for cheney’s deposition to be served by
the u.s. marshals, in a civil case?
we will soon see. . .
this is the colorado section 1983 law-
suit for false arrest of a man who touched
cheeny’s arm, as he shook his hand, in
beaver creek, at a public appearance by
the vice president, and then voiced
his disgust for the iraq war.
see the subpoena, and the motion to
support the service of it, at the above link!
p e a c e