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	<title>Comments on: Dougie&#8217;s Rant</title>
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		<title>By: brendanx</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57373</link>
		<dc:creator>brendanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“vacuum”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“vacuum”</p>
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		<title>By: brendanx</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57372</link>
		<dc:creator>brendanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stupid and cunning aren’t mutually exclusive.  Feith, with Wolfowitz, was responsible for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A63423-2003Nov19?language=printer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;disbanding the Iraqi army&lt;/a&gt; and creating the vaccuum that supposedly necessitates our stay.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid and cunning aren’t mutually exclusive.  Feith, with Wolfowitz, was responsible for <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A63423-2003Nov19?language=printer" rel="nofollow">disbanding the Iraqi army</a> and creating the vaccuum that supposedly necessitates our stay.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnJ</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57281</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If the manuscript was ever e-mailed or transfered electronically…..guess who got it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the manuscript was ever e-mailed or transfered electronically…..guess who got it.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57277</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;High. That was my speculation too–his would have to be vetted since so much of it pertains to his own little intelligence empire. Ergo, spooks. Ergo, people who would know to get it in DeYoung’s and Ricks’ hands.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High. That was my speculation too–his would have to be vetted since so much of it pertains to his own little intelligence empire. Ergo, spooks. Ergo, people who would know to get it in DeYoung’s and Ricks’ hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57269</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The fingerpointing is a distraction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What needs to be understood is that these Shock Doctrinaires did not believe that planning was necessary for post-war Iraq; they believe absolutely and blindly that a free market democracy will spring from chaos if chaos can be induced.  Like Venus rising immaculately from the half-shell, emerging from the sea in all her Titian glory, democracy was going to arise from the sands of Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That sane people are so shocked by the lack of planning surprises them, catches them without a suitable response; they can only stammer and point fingers, even years later.  Only the stupidest fucking people on earth could still cling to this belief system and this defense this long after the fact.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fingerpointing is a distraction.</p>
<p>What needs to be understood is that these Shock Doctrinaires did not believe that planning was necessary for post-war Iraq; they believe absolutely and blindly that a free market democracy will spring from chaos if chaos can be induced.  Like Venus rising immaculately from the half-shell, emerging from the sea in all her Titian glory, democracy was going to arise from the sands of Iraq.</p>
<p>That sane people are so shocked by the lack of planning surprises them, catches them without a suitable response; they can only stammer and point fingers, even years later.  Only the stupidest fucking people on earth could still cling to this belief system and this defense this long after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Rickbrew</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57268</link>
		<dc:creator>Rickbrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Why didn’t Bremmer sit down like, before the war started?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Probably because they had passed the unimportant issue of how to deal with Iraq off to a retired three-star General, Jay Garner, as a way of ignoring the issue. Within six weeks of the invasion, after the uncontrolled looting, they realized that there might be a problem there and that Garner was both competent and not one of them. So they quickly found a replacement for Garner in Jerry Bremer. But by the time Bremer got on board, a May planning session was probably the earliest he could arrange. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They were shooting from the hip to solve problems they had not anticipated, and Bremer himself was an afterthought. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I really wish that Jay Garner would publish a book telling what happened to him. THAT would be an interesting book, especially when compared to Bremer’s book.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why didn’t Bremmer sit down like, before the war started?</i></p>
<p>Probably because they had passed the unimportant issue of how to deal with Iraq off to a retired three-star General, Jay Garner, as a way of ignoring the issue. Within six weeks of the invasion, after the uncontrolled looting, they realized that there might be a problem there and that Garner was both competent and not one of them. So they quickly found a replacement for Garner in Jerry Bremer. But by the time Bremer got on board, a May planning session was probably the earliest he could arrange. </p>
<p>They were shooting from the hip to solve problems they had not anticipated, and Bremer himself was an afterthought. </p>
<p>I really wish that Jay Garner would publish a book telling what happened to him. THAT would be an interesting book, especially when compared to Bremer’s book.</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamOckham</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57267</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamOckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[Complete speculation alert]&lt;br /&gt;
The article says, more or less, that they got hold of the manuscript halfway through the editing process. From what little I know about publishing these types of books, that’s about the point in the process a book like this has to get reviewed by the spooks to make sure there’s no unauthorized release of classified information. What do think the chances are that some intelligence community professional decided that leaking the manuscript to Ricks and DeYoung would be in the best interests of the truth?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Complete speculation alert]<br />
The article says, more or less, that they got hold of the manuscript halfway through the editing process. From what little I know about publishing these types of books, that’s about the point in the process a book like this has to get reviewed by the spooks to make sure there’s no unauthorized release of classified information. What do think the chances are that some intelligence community professional decided that leaking the manuscript to Ricks and DeYoung would be in the best interests of the truth?</p>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57264</link>
		<dc:creator>Mnemosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think SteveM is right. This thing must be in bound books by now (what a waste of trees). And embargo or no, there are a lot of people who can get their hands on a bound book, from the highest to the lowliest in the warehouse.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think SteveM is right. This thing must be in bound books by now (what a waste of trees). And embargo or no, there are a lot of people who can get their hands on a bound book, from the highest to the lowliest in the warehouse.</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57263</link>
		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ishmael, they’re publishing Marsden now too. I figure that puts them in the running for the Darwin Awards.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ishmael, they’re publishing Marsden now too. I figure that puts them in the running for the Darwin Awards.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/dougies-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-57260</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Which once again raises the question–how did they get it? They’ve had it for long enough to 1) read it, and 2) conduct a number of interviews about it. So who would have gotten a manuscript in the process and then liberated it into the hands of two allies of Feith’s targets?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which once again raises the question–how did they get it? They’ve had it for long enough to 1) read it, and 2) conduct a number of interviews about it. So who would have gotten a manuscript in the process and then liberated it into the hands of two allies of Feith’s targets?</p>
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