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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/shorter-google/comment-page-1/#comment-56485</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;WashingtonPost today has published an article lobbying for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/03/AR2008030302814.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bluedog acquiescence completion this week&lt;/a&gt; on dispensation for warrantless wiretaps. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Google has posted today a &lt;a href=&quot;http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rambling history &lt;/a&gt;approximately concerning its algorithm for parsing what we type on our keyboards, but the narrative has the tone of a deliberately fragmentated, popularized, and vaguely overprotective presentation of its way of conceptualizing how to grow the Google platforms’ profiling capabilities.  I still think the chafing over the 700MHz spectrum auction is a salient place to observe incumbent Telco anxiety over competitiveness and altered revenue streams with the new comms hub paradigm Google is incubating, and that the retroactive tort-relief sought in the wiretap scandal is an issue onto which to piggyback the telcos’ next gen marketing plans.  One of the linchpins has to be fiscal liquidity in this clash, which is why Google and Microsoft are at the front of the pack nipping at usta members’ heels.  Yahoo may enjoy rejuvenation, and some trimming, after the m+a hassle with Microsoft resolves.  Y is in no position to compete as a standalone company with Google now, if measured solely by current stock value of the respective companies.  There is some interesting writing in business and tech literature stipulating the barriers Google and Microsoft face are similar processes of endemic senescence.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WashingtonPost today has published an article lobbying for <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/03/AR2008030302814.html" rel="nofollow">bluedog acquiescence completion this week</a> on dispensation for warrantless wiretaps. </p>
<p>Google has posted today a <a href="http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">rambling history </a>approximately concerning its algorithm for parsing what we type on our keyboards, but the narrative has the tone of a deliberately fragmentated, popularized, and vaguely overprotective presentation of its way of conceptualizing how to grow the Google platforms’ profiling capabilities.  I still think the chafing over the 700MHz spectrum auction is a salient place to observe incumbent Telco anxiety over competitiveness and altered revenue streams with the new comms hub paradigm Google is incubating, and that the retroactive tort-relief sought in the wiretap scandal is an issue onto which to piggyback the telcos’ next gen marketing plans.  One of the linchpins has to be fiscal liquidity in this clash, which is why Google and Microsoft are at the front of the pack nipping at usta members’ heels.  Yahoo may enjoy rejuvenation, and some trimming, after the m+a hassle with Microsoft resolves.  Y is in no position to compete as a standalone company with Google now, if measured solely by current stock value of the respective companies.  There is some interesting writing in business and tech literature stipulating the barriers Google and Microsoft face are similar processes of endemic senescence.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/shorter-google/comment-page-1/#comment-56473</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Aha…have been waiting for this bit.  This will certainly stir the pot a LOT:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;GOOGLE OFFERS BETA OF FREE UNIFIED MESSAGING SERVICE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Google has opened up a free unified messaging and phone management&lt;br /&gt;
service to users of its Blogger platform.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;News of limited beta of its GrandCentral service is creating some&lt;br /&gt;
buzz. GrandCentral has been mostly silent since the startup was&lt;br /&gt;
bought by Google last June. Until now, it had been available only by&lt;br /&gt;
private invitation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GrandCentral offers users a free local phone number. Users can set&lt;br /&gt;
their account so that incoming calls to their one phone number are&lt;br /&gt;
directed to any of their phones - office, home or mobile - based on a&lt;br /&gt;
set of rules, such as time of day and identity of the caller.&lt;br /&gt;
GrandCentral also provides its users a centralized voicemail system&lt;br /&gt;
that can be accessed by phone or online. The service can also …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Read full story.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://go.techtarget.com/r/3187899/1733941&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://go.techtarget.com/r/3187899/1733941&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Notice that this is tied to a &lt;i&gt;Blogger&lt;/i&gt; account, not a &lt;i&gt;Gmail&lt;/i&gt; account.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most interesting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WilliamOckham (5) — I disagree about MSFT getting pressured; they’ve already caved in so many different ways and allowed themselves to be co-opted, in exchange for getting a built-in preference for their products.  You’ll see states like MA that are rejecting standardization around MSFT’s OOXML as not open enough — but you don’t see the USGOVT doing that, do you?  Yahoo’s likely caved, even though they’re in a no-win situation.  They caved to China’s demands on blocking access, for example, had Lantos calling them “ethical pygmies”; bet you they rolled over in order to stem the bleeding.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha…have been waiting for this bit.  This will certainly stir the pot a LOT:</p>
<blockquote><p>GOOGLE OFFERS BETA OF FREE UNIFIED MESSAGING SERVICE</p>
<p>Google has opened up a free unified messaging and phone management<br />
service to users of its Blogger platform.</p>
<p>News of limited beta of its GrandCentral service is creating some<br />
buzz. GrandCentral has been mostly silent since the startup was<br />
bought by Google last June. Until now, it had been available only by<br />
private invitation.</p>
<p>GrandCentral offers users a free local phone number. Users can set<br />
their account so that incoming calls to their one phone number are<br />
directed to any of their phones &#8211; office, home or mobile &#8211; based on a<br />
set of rules, such as time of day and identity of the caller.<br />
GrandCentral also provides its users a centralized voicemail system<br />
that can be accessed by phone or online. The service can also …</p>
<p>Read full story.<br />
<a href="http://go.techtarget.com/r/3187899/1733941" rel="nofollow">http://go.techtarget.com/r/3187899/1733941</a></p>
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<p>Notice that this is tied to a <i>Blogger</i> account, not a <i>Gmail</i> account.</p>
<p>Most interesting.</p>
<p>WilliamOckham (5) — I disagree about MSFT getting pressured; they’ve already caved in so many different ways and allowed themselves to be co-opted, in exchange for getting a built-in preference for their products.  You’ll see states like MA that are rejecting standardization around MSFT’s OOXML as not open enough — but you don’t see the USGOVT doing that, do you?  Yahoo’s likely caved, even though they’re in a no-win situation.  They caved to China’s demands on blocking access, for example, had Lantos calling them “ethical pygmies”; bet you they rolled over in order to stem the bleeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathryn</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/shorter-google/comment-page-1/#comment-56432</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We should put the big hurt on the Big D&lt;br /&gt;
The actions of senior Democratic leadership on this issue is galling. We should call up the people who are responsible for laying down the plans for this horrifying abrogation of our rights as citizens, and make it plain to them that if they try to go through with this unspeakably corrupt legislation, that we will reach out and touch them. I don’t live in Silvestre Reyes’s congressional district, or Steny Hoyers’s, nor do I live in Nevada, home of Senator Harry Reid, or West Virginia, home of Senator Jay Rockefeller. But I can send money to primary challengers, and if they think they can trade my rights for their congressional safety, they have another think coming. It doesn’t matter who occupies those chairs in Washington if the result is the same as GOP domination.&lt;br /&gt;
Silvestre Reyes:&lt;br /&gt;
Phone: (202) 225-4831&lt;br /&gt;
Steny Hoyer:&lt;br /&gt;
Phone - (202) 225-4131&lt;br /&gt;
Harry Reid:&lt;br /&gt;
Phone: 202-224-3542&lt;br /&gt;
Jay Rockefeller:&lt;br /&gt;
(202) 224-6472&lt;br /&gt;
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee:&lt;br /&gt;
202-224-2447&lt;br /&gt;
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee:&lt;br /&gt;
202-863-1500&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should put the big hurt on the Big D<br />
The actions of senior Democratic leadership on this issue is galling. We should call up the people who are responsible for laying down the plans for this horrifying abrogation of our rights as citizens, and make it plain to them that if they try to go through with this unspeakably corrupt legislation, that we will reach out and touch them. I don’t live in Silvestre Reyes’s congressional district, or Steny Hoyers’s, nor do I live in Nevada, home of Senator Harry Reid, or West Virginia, home of Senator Jay Rockefeller. But I can send money to primary challengers, and if they think they can trade my rights for their congressional safety, they have another think coming. It doesn’t matter who occupies those chairs in Washington if the result is the same as GOP domination.<br />
Silvestre Reyes:<br />
Phone: (202) 225-4831<br />
Steny Hoyer:<br />
Phone &#8211; (202) 225-4131<br />
Harry Reid:<br />
Phone: 202-224-3542<br />
Jay Rockefeller:<br />
(202) 224-6472<br />
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee:<br />
202-224-2447<br />
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee:<br />
202-863-1500</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/shorter-google/comment-page-1/#comment-56426</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would be nice to know what it was about Google that got Hastert’s shorts in a bunched-up wad in regards to alleged violations of consumers’ privacy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What an effing joke, that; why wasn’t he worried about other search engines, or competitors like Amazon, &lt;i&gt;or the damned ISP’s and telecom companies…&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would like to ask Google: how’d you piss off Hastert, and please, could you do it again?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be nice to know what it was about Google that got Hastert’s shorts in a bunched-up wad in regards to alleged violations of consumers’ privacy.</p>
<p>What an effing joke, that; why wasn’t he worried about other search engines, or competitors like Amazon, <i>or the damned ISP’s and telecom companies…</i></p>
<p>I would like to ask Google: how’d you piss off Hastert, and please, could you do it again?</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/shorter-google/comment-page-1/#comment-56420</link>
		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the cave-in crew are using the same writers, I got the same piece of crap from “Senator” Corker.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the cave-in crew are using the same writers, I got the same piece of crap from “Senator” Corker.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/shorter-google/comment-page-1/#comment-56402</link>
		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I received this letter from Inouye, today…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dear Mr. Tuttle&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for your communication regarding S.2248, the FISA Amendments Act of 2007.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;S.2248 was passed by the Senate, as amended, on Feb. 12, 2008, by a vote of 68-29.  I supported S. 2248, which included the Title II limited immunity provision for telecommunications companies, because I believe this legislation is a first step in addressing the civil liberties and privacy concerns raised by the President’s Terroist Surveillance Program.  In addition, this legislation will provide our intelligence agencies with the tools and capabilities they require to defend all of us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Protecting our civil liberties and the privacy of all Americans is fundamental to our founding principles, and violations of those principles should not be taken lightly.  In the aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001, our nation’s security became a top priority, and Americans came together willing to offer any assistance in our common defence. &lt;strong&gt; It is in this spirit of rallying to protect American lives that I believe the telecommunications companies now facing civil suits acted when they agreed to assist the President.  In my opinion these companies acted in good faith  that the cooperation the President sought was within the boundaries of our legal system.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We cherish our freedoms and liberties.  They are the cornerstones of our American democracy that must be defended and protected, and it is elusive and delicate balance that we constantly strive to acheive.  We must not allow the actions of this Administration to jeopardize our nation’s security in the future.  It is equally imprudent to ignore the impact those  actions have on our freedoms and liberties, or we will concede the basic principles this nation was founded upon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me on this important matter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Aloha&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If they had acted in good faith and legally, why would they need Immunity?  WTF???&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received this letter from Inouye, today…</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Mr. Tuttle<br />
Thank you for your communication regarding S.2248, the FISA Amendments Act of 2007.</p>
<p>S.2248 was passed by the Senate, as amended, on Feb. 12, 2008, by a vote of 68-29.  I supported S. 2248, which included the Title II limited immunity provision for telecommunications companies, because I believe this legislation is a first step in addressing the civil liberties and privacy concerns raised by the President’s Terroist Surveillance Program.  In addition, this legislation will provide our intelligence agencies with the tools and capabilities they require to defend all of us.</p>
<p>Protecting our civil liberties and the privacy of all Americans is fundamental to our founding principles, and violations of those principles should not be taken lightly.  In the aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001, our nation’s security became a top priority, and Americans came together willing to offer any assistance in our common defence. <strong> It is in this spirit of rallying to protect American lives that I believe the telecommunications companies now facing civil suits acted when they agreed to assist the President.  In my opinion these companies acted in good faith  that the cooperation the President sought was within the boundaries of our legal system.</strong></p>
<p>We cherish our freedoms and liberties.  They are the cornerstones of our American democracy that must be defended and protected, and it is elusive and delicate balance that we constantly strive to acheive.  We must not allow the actions of this Administration to jeopardize our nation’s security in the future.  It is equally imprudent to ignore the impact those  actions have on our freedoms and liberties, or we will concede the basic principles this nation was founded upon.</p>
<p>Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me on this important matter.</p>
<p>Aloha</p>
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<p>If they had acted in good faith and legally, why would they need Immunity?  WTF???</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/shorter-google/comment-page-1/#comment-56377</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And as to @4 above also.  No, Google, Yahoo etc. are most definitiely not the same as AT&amp;T, Verizon etc.; for starters, there is the difference between those that are providers of services and those that have the physical facilities.  the primary focus of the Bush Administration would have been on the physical facility nodes, which would have been San Francisco, as described by Mark Klein, and San Diego, Los Angeles, San Jose, Seattle and Atlanta as well as New york and/or one or two other spots in New England.  But, above and beyond that, there is a difference in the nature and quality of general Counsel and legal offices.  While Google and Yahoo may well be top notch, they do not have anywhere near the inbred with govt./DOJ talent and acumen that the major telcos such as AT&amp;T and Verizon have.  These are far different eggs in the same basket.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as to @4 above also.  No, Google, Yahoo etc. are most definitiely not the same as AT&amp;T, Verizon etc.; for starters, there is the difference between those that are providers of services and those that have the physical facilities.  the primary focus of the Bush Administration would have been on the physical facility nodes, which would have been San Francisco, as described by Mark Klein, and San Diego, Los Angeles, San Jose, Seattle and Atlanta as well as New york and/or one or two other spots in New England.  But, above and beyond that, there is a difference in the nature and quality of general Counsel and legal offices.  While Google and Yahoo may well be top notch, they do not have anywhere near the inbred with govt./DOJ talent and acumen that the major telcos such as AT&amp;T and Verizon have.  These are far different eggs in the same basket.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/shorter-google/comment-page-1/#comment-56373</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EM…Thank you for this. It add to the perspective a great deal. A level playing field is important in a regulatory environment. This and EFF’s and the 40 plaintiffs rights have to be an issue in crafting any changes to FISA law or it’s &lt;strong&gt;enforcement&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
I hope someone DIGGs the heck out of this. Without knowing these concerns one might not find Telecom Immunity as egregiuos as it is.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EM…Thank you for this. It add to the perspective a great deal. A level playing field is important in a regulatory environment. This and EFF’s and the 40 plaintiffs rights have to be an issue in crafting any changes to FISA law or it’s <strong>enforcement</strong>.<br />
I hope someone DIGGs the heck out of this. Without knowing these concerns one might not find Telecom Immunity as egregiuos as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Sedgequill</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/shorter-google/comment-page-1/#comment-56371</link>
		<dc:creator>Sedgequill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CCIA’s mission from their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccianet.org/about.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;About Us&lt;/a&gt; page:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;CCIA’s mission is to further our members’ business interests by being the leading industry advocate in promoting open, barrier-free competition in the offering of computer and communications products and services worldwide.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccianet.org/members.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CCIA Members&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CCIA’s advocacy of “open, barrier-free competition” should get the attention of the House.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCIA’s mission from their <a href="http://www.ccianet.org/about.html" rel="nofollow">About Us</a> page:</p>
<blockquote><p>CCIA’s mission is to further our members’ business interests by being the leading industry advocate in promoting open, barrier-free competition in the offering of computer and communications products and services worldwide.
</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.ccianet.org/members.html" rel="nofollow">CCIA Members</a></p>
<p>CCIA’s advocacy of “open, barrier-free competition” should get the attention of the House.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“vague &lt;strong&gt;promises&lt;/strong&gt; that the U.S. Government can be relied upon to paper over Constitutional transgressions after the fact.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So…is that really laying it out there that they were told to do it and if it ever came up the government sort of promised it would paper over any constitutional violations?  Is that what that says?  Hellloooo&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“vague <strong>promises</strong> that the U.S. Government can be relied upon to paper over Constitutional transgressions after the fact.”</p>
<p>So…is that really laying it out there that they were told to do it and if it ever came up the government sort of promised it would paper over any constitutional violations?  Is that what that says?  Hellloooo</p>
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