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		<title>By: Jesterfox</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/25/gitmo-fixer-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-55335</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesterfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great movie and book!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/25/gitmo-fixer-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-55164</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;64 - the legal posturing of OLC and Haynes at DOD had been that the President could, for the military, override the Congressionally set standards of conduct in the Uniform Code of Military Justice because he is Commander in Chief and it was a time of war.  Also, that the President could dismiss the standards of the Geneva Conventions, especially common article III, as not applying to ”unlawful enemy combatants” and so authorize the military to treat men, women and children in debased and depraved manners, inconsistent with both the UCMJ and the normal standards of the Geneva Conventions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congress sat on its backside and did nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Sup Ct, though, in Hamdan, made the final legal determination that the military does have to follow the UCMJ in a time of war and the President cannot override the UCMJ by fiat and also that common article III of the conventions did apply to EVERYONE being held.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So Congress, who had sat on its backside (and continues to sit on its backside) through non-stop civilian abuse, dug deep and went to work and made sure that they … gave retroactive immunity for rampant and unchecked depravity that the President authorized, without even investigating who authorized what and the ramifications and actions. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And then Congress made sure that for future violations, there would be no oversight, no punishments if politicians wanted to block punishment, and no recourse for any victims no matter how foully abused for any reason and for any period of time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;God Bless them all.  I pretty much hate both parties.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>64 &#8211; the legal posturing of OLC and Haynes at DOD had been that the President could, for the military, override the Congressionally set standards of conduct in the Uniform Code of Military Justice because he is Commander in Chief and it was a time of war.  Also, that the President could dismiss the standards of the Geneva Conventions, especially common article III, as not applying to ”unlawful enemy combatants” and so authorize the military to treat men, women and children in debased and depraved manners, inconsistent with both the UCMJ and the normal standards of the Geneva Conventions.</p>
<p>Congress sat on its backside and did nothing.</p>
<p>The Sup Ct, though, in Hamdan, made the final legal determination that the military does have to follow the UCMJ in a time of war and the President cannot override the UCMJ by fiat and also that common article III of the conventions did apply to EVERYONE being held.</p>
<p>So Congress, who had sat on its backside (and continues to sit on its backside) through non-stop civilian abuse, dug deep and went to work and made sure that they … gave retroactive immunity for rampant and unchecked depravity that the President authorized, without even investigating who authorized what and the ramifications and actions. </p>
<p>And then Congress made sure that for future violations, there would be no oversight, no punishments if politicians wanted to block punishment, and no recourse for any victims no matter how foully abused for any reason and for any period of time.</p>
<p>God Bless them all.  I pretty much hate both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/25/gitmo-fixer-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-55112</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My personal &lt;strong&gt;2008 Festival of Films Relevant to The American Now&lt;/strong&gt; includes not just &lt;em&gt;Seven Days In May&lt;/em&gt; — which, thanks for the reminder, I recently saw for the first time and found just excellent (except for the misogyny) –but also: &lt;em&gt;The Manchurian Candidate&lt;/em&gt; (1962), &lt;em&gt;Brazil&lt;/em&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;V for Vendetta&lt;/em&gt;.  What we have before us is an Accountability Moment, of a kind that fiction writers have long considered.  We ignore their counsel at our peril.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal <strong>2008 Festival of Films Relevant to The American Now</strong> includes not just <em>Seven Days In May</em> — which, thanks for the reminder, I recently saw for the first time and found just excellent (except for the misogyny) –but also: <em>The Manchurian Candidate</em> (1962), <em>Brazil</em>, and <em>V for Vendetta</em>.  What we have before us is an Accountability Moment, of a kind that fiction writers have long considered.  We ignore their counsel at our peril.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, that, but plus the just plain aesthetic revulsion: “Dig us, we’re The Whitest People In The History of Ever!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(I am informed that as a pale person myself, I have dispensation to utter such parody.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that, but plus the just plain aesthetic revulsion: “Dig us, we’re The Whitest People In The History of Ever!”</p>
<p>(I am informed that as a pale person myself, I have dispensation to utter such parody.)</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/25/gitmo-fixer-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-55077</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You can thank the Bush Administration, through their water-carriers McCain, Graham and Warner.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: ticktock</title>
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		<dc:creator>ticktock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Will somebody clarify this in relation to this thread. Apparently this was passed. (why?):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Military Commissions Act of 2006&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SEC. 7. REVISIONS TO DETAINEE TREATMENT ACT OF 2005 RELATING TO PROTECTION OF CERTAIN UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(a) Counsel and Investigations- Section 1004(b) of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 (42 U.S.C. 2000dd-1(b)) is amended–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(1) by striking `may provide’ and inserting `shall provide’;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(2) by inserting `or investigation’ after `criminal prosecution’; and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(3) by inserting `whether before United States courts or agencies, foreign courts or agencies, or international courts or agencies,’ after `described in that subsection’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(b) Protection of Personnel- Section 1004 of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 (42 U.S.C. 2000dd-1) shall apply with respect to any criminal prosecution that–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(1) relates to the detention and interrogation of aliens described in such section;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(2) is grounded in section 2441(c)(3) of title 18, United States Code; and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(3) relates to actions occurring between September 11, 2001, and December 30, 2005.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SEC. 8. RETROACTIVE APPLICABILITY.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This Act shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act and shall apply retroactively, including–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(1) to any aspect of the detention, treatment, or trial of any person detained at any time since September 11, 2001; and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(2) to any claim or cause of action pending on or after the date of the enactment of this Act.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SEC. 5. JUDICIAL REVIEW.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Section 2241 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by striking both the subsection (e) added by section 1005(e)(1) of Public Law 109-148 (119 Stat. 2742) and the subsection (e) added by section 1405(e)(1) of Public Law 109-163 (119 Stat. 3477) and inserting the following new subsection (e):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;`(e)(1) Except as provided for in this subsection, and notwithstanding any other law, no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any claim or cause of action, including an application for a writ of habeas corpus, pending on or filed after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, against the United States or its agents, brought by or on behalf of any alien detained by the United States as an unlawful enemy combatant, relating to any aspect of the alien’s detention, transfer, treatment, or conditions of confinement.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will somebody clarify this in relation to this thread. Apparently this was passed. (why?):</p>
<p>Military Commissions Act of 2006</p>
<p>SEC. 7. REVISIONS TO DETAINEE TREATMENT ACT OF 2005 RELATING TO PROTECTION OF CERTAIN UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL.</p>
<p>(a) Counsel and Investigations- Section 1004(b) of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 (42 U.S.C. 2000dd-1(b)) is amended–</p>
<p>(1) by striking `may provide’ and inserting `shall provide’;</p>
<p>(2) by inserting `or investigation’ after `criminal prosecution’; and</p>
<p>(3) by inserting `whether before United States courts or agencies, foreign courts or agencies, or international courts or agencies,’ after `described in that subsection’.</p>
<p>(b) Protection of Personnel- Section 1004 of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 (42 U.S.C. 2000dd-1) shall apply with respect to any criminal prosecution that–</p>
<p>(1) relates to the detention and interrogation of aliens described in such section;</p>
<p>(2) is grounded in section 2441(c)(3) of title 18, United States Code; and</p>
<p>(3) relates to actions occurring between September 11, 2001, and December 30, 2005.</p>
<p>SEC. 8. RETROACTIVE APPLICABILITY.</p>
<p>This Act shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act and shall apply retroactively, including–</p>
<p>(1) to any aspect of the detention, treatment, or trial of any person detained at any time since September 11, 2001; and</p>
<p>(2) to any claim or cause of action pending on or after the date of the enactment of this Act.</p>
<p>SEC. 5. JUDICIAL REVIEW.</p>
<p>Section 2241 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by striking both the subsection (e) added by section 1005(e)(1) of Public Law 109-148 (119 Stat. 2742) and the subsection (e) added by section 1405(e)(1) of Public Law 109-163 (119 Stat. 3477) and inserting the following new subsection (e):</p>
<p>`(e)(1) Except as provided for in this subsection, and notwithstanding any other law, no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any claim or cause of action, including an application for a writ of habeas corpus, pending on or filed after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, against the United States or its agents, brought by or on behalf of any alien detained by the United States as an unlawful enemy combatant, relating to any aspect of the alien’s detention, transfer, treatment, or conditions of confinement.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heh, all I know is that there is a whole lot of dark matter, and it isn’t a pigmentation issue; may be a combination of the soot and the other.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, all I know is that there is a whole lot of dark matter, and it isn’t a pigmentation issue; may be a combination of the soot and the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/25/gitmo-fixer-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-55039</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;55 - I’m glad to see that change in date, bc I was getting a little nervous. *g*  Good to know that’s soot - I was wondering about a different byproduct.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>55 &#8211; I’m glad to see that change in date, bc I was getting a little nervous. *g*  Good to know that’s soot &#8211; I was wondering about a different byproduct.  </p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/25/gitmo-fixer-resigns/comment-page-1/#comment-55037</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;29 - with resepct to 3) on the ordering, hasn’t he resigned?  Am I confusing with someone else?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29 &#8211; with resepct to 3) on the ordering, hasn’t he resigned?  Am I confusing with someone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tempting to send him a campaign donation, idn’t?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remembering Rove’s “teh math” as outlined in the presentation Scott Jennings gave at GSA offices with Cookies Doan’s blessing, corruption was expected to be a strongly negative factor for certain races.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The longer Renzi stays, the better the odds for change in AZ.  Woohoo, go teh new math!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tempting to send him a campaign donation, idn’t?  </p>
<p>Remembering Rove’s “teh math” as outlined in the presentation Scott Jennings gave at GSA offices with Cookies Doan’s blessing, corruption was expected to be a strongly negative factor for certain races.</p>
<p>The longer Renzi stays, the better the odds for change in AZ.  Woohoo, go teh new math!!</p>
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