McCain was the worst pilot in the freaking Navy

he makes a DAMN FINE pinata though …

some people just got different talents, that’s all

mccain always wanted to be the repuglitard candidate real bad

now he’s the repuglitard candidate, real bad

at least Gore and Kerry get off the top of the “Worst Campaign Ever” list*

*as bad as mccain’s candidacy is doing, he already lost that race too: I give the new champ, rudi gholiani

McCain hasn’t seen so much flak since he got shot down over VietNam – although that time he really was being targeted by “commie leftists who hated America”

McCain was the worst pilot in the freaking Navy. The VC could have saved their ordnance; McCain probably would have crashed his plane all by himself. Ever hear of this nightmarish incident on the USS Forrestal? Here is a video (lousy video, but shows how bad the situation the article describes was).

I think the Indian Casino Investigation is pretty well rung out — but Abramoff had many other interests beyond milking the casino interests for his own fun and profit. There were clear suggestions of direction in those hearings — the connections to right religious groups for instance, and Abramoff’s interest in furnishing the West Bank Settlers with sniper rifles, but I think there may be much more, and moreover Abramoff probably has knowledge of other similar lobby games played by others, to the benefit of various lobby shops and the members with whom they worked. I think even from Prison, Abramoff would be able to threaten to drop the dime on others — for instance those now around McCain or their associates in their lobby shops — as vengence for what was done to him. It just strikes me this could be why some of McCain’s former staff and advisors may have become available to the press. Abramoff has nothing to lose in such an effort. He probably doesn’t rate a Bush Pardon next Xmas, so why not sink the ship? He’s looking at 12 years — and I doubt if he figures Obama or Clinton would be in a pardon mood.

Frankly, I find no interest in the suggestion of “romantic interest” in this McCain Story — where I do see real opportunity is in developing the narrative about the evil done by the lobby’s who have stolen the idea of National and common interest from American Politics. Yes, of course, it is in the constitution that citizens have the right to petition Government for redress of grievances, but we need to develop the corellary that this does not include the right to buy the people’s representatives. We need to push into the debate the demand for much more seperation between legitimate lobby work, and campaign finance, favors for Congresspersons and Senators, and any and all political appointees. In some ways the little sex bit out of the Times Article obscures the key issue.

Why should McCain have control? He got those records as chair of his committee, and he is no longer the chair. Why wouldn’t the new chair have control?

I didn’t understand how a US Senator could keep unclassified documents out of the view of the People of the United States in the first fucking place

last I heard, mccain was the guy holding up disclosure

I’m not even sure which committee we’re talking about here

I don’t splain em, I jes try to keep track of em

In response to bobschacht @ 46
Who has control over those documents and their disposition now?

survey says:
senator john mccain

Why should McCain have control? He got those records as chair of his committee, and he is no longer the chair. Why wouldn’t the new chair have control?

Bob in HI

Who has control over those documents and their disposition now?

survey says:

senator john mccain

last I heard, the “straight Talk” corkscrew was bragging about his role in helping convict abrammoff

mccain is one of the few repuglitards who actually does know jack

and mccain is ensuring that nobdy else knows jack by hiding MILLIONS OF PAGES of documents related to how jack abramoff cheated some Native American tribes

I mentioned this a few days back when I decided that john mccain was a PINATA

and he’s gonna dish out political candy to Democrats with every whack

GOP, The “Goofy Old Pinata” party

everybody gets to take a whack

Ever since this went public, I have wondered whether our old friend Jack Abramoff has had anything to do with the McCain matter. While he is safely locked up in a Federal Prison, of all the Republican operatives he has the greatest motivation for revenge on McCain. It was the Indian Casino Scams Hearings, after all, that pushed a marginal Abramoff probe off of Page 17 A, and into the forefront. It was McCain who chose to do those hearings, more or less fully outing Abramoff — and I suspect some cold revenge at work, via all sorts of Republican Operatives who once had a relationship with an Abramoff matter, but as yet have not been touched by a far reaching investigation. Abramoff may have limited mobility and phone privileges, but I suspect he knows how to call cards if he wants to.

Yes, and during those hearings, IIRC McCain obtained a HUGE number of administration insider documents (including emails) that I am sure would be very useful for any number of investigations. Remember that this boodle of documents were obtained before the Democrats took over Congress, and probably before the Republicans started scrubbing their computer drives.

Who has control over those documents and their disposition now?

Bob in HI