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	<title>Comments on: McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Favors&#8221; for One Special Lobbyist: The Bob Bennett Angle</title>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Doesn’t Pettite’s disclosure - that McNamee is telling the truth about Pettite’s HGH use - compromise Clemen’s credibility?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;well, yeah, that’s ONE compromizing aspect&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;then you gotta wonder why clemens’ wife would need to use HGH&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;basically, there AIN’T NO REASON for clemens wife to be using HGH&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HGH is a SCHEDULE TWO NARCOTIC&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;un-perscribed use is a felony&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so why would he admit his wife is a potential felon&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but the thing that destroys clemens credibility the most was his intial statement&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“if I did use HGH, WHERE WOULD I GET THE SYRINGES”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;once you learn that clemens admits to ILLEGALLY INJECTING VITAMIN B-12 AND LYDOCAINE, you can kinda figure out where clemens would get the syringes to inject HGH&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;clemens got the syringes he used to inject HGH at the same place that clemens got the syringes he used to inject the B-12 and Lydocaine&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is that so hard to figure out&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;clemens was a fine pitcher, and he’s a very stubborn man, as well as a very STOOOOOPID man. He is also a morally bankrupthypocrite and liar, as well as a cheater and a drug user&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and a man so LOW that he is willing to hide behind his wife and slander former friends rather than admit the truth&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and they don’t come much lower than that&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Doesn’t Pettite’s disclosure &#8211; that McNamee is telling the truth about Pettite’s HGH use &#8211; compromise Clemen’s credibility?</p>
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<p>well, yeah, that’s ONE compromizing aspect</p>
<p>then you gotta wonder why clemens’ wife would need to use HGH</p>
<p>basically, there AIN’T NO REASON for clemens wife to be using HGH</p>
<p>HGH is a SCHEDULE TWO NARCOTIC</p>
<p>un-perscribed use is a felony</p>
<p>so why would he admit his wife is a potential felon</p>
<p>but the thing that destroys clemens credibility the most was his intial statement</p>
<blockquote><p>“if I did use HGH, WHERE WOULD I GET THE SYRINGES”</p>
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<p>once you learn that clemens admits to ILLEGALLY INJECTING VITAMIN B-12 AND LYDOCAINE, you can kinda figure out where clemens would get the syringes to inject HGH</p>
<p>clemens got the syringes he used to inject HGH at the same place that clemens got the syringes he used to inject the B-12 and Lydocaine</p>
<p>is that so hard to figure out</p>
<p>clemens was a fine pitcher, and he’s a very stubborn man, as well as a very STOOOOOPID man. He is also a morally bankrupthypocrite and liar, as well as a cheater and a drug user</p>
<p>and a man so LOW that he is willing to hide behind his wife and slander former friends rather than admit the truth</p>
<p>and they don’t come much lower than that</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe a little, but only indirectly through the fact that it does bolster McNamee’s credibility a bit (Knoblouch too it would appear).  Now, is that enough to make MacNamee credible:  Not in my book.  This whole thing is a pile.  Mitchell, MLB and, it is my understanding Bush too, really did a little pushing (probably didn’t take much) to get Congress involved.  But the handwriting was well on the wall; Congress and Waxman should have known better than to get involved; not to mention that they have much more important things to do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a little, but only indirectly through the fact that it does bolster McNamee’s credibility a bit (Knoblouch too it would appear).  Now, is that enough to make MacNamee credible:  Not in my book.  This whole thing is a pile.  Mitchell, MLB and, it is my understanding Bush too, really did a little pushing (probably didn’t take much) to get Congress involved.  But the handwriting was well on the wall; Congress and Waxman should have known better than to get involved; not to mention that they have much more important things to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s good to be back here with you and the emptywheelers bmaz. I was visting family in happy valley - western mass - and celebrating a couple of birthdays.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re making me rethink some of my positions on this one.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back to EW’s question:  Doesn’t Pettite’s disclosure - that McNamee is telling the truth about Pettite’s HGH use - compromise Clemen’s credibility?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s good to be back here with you and the emptywheelers bmaz. I was visting family in happy valley &#8211; western mass &#8211; and celebrating a couple of birthdays.</p>
<p>You’re making me rethink some of my positions on this one.  </p>
<p>Back to EW’s question:  Doesn’t Pettite’s disclosure &#8211; that McNamee is telling the truth about Pettite’s HGH use &#8211; compromise Clemen’s credibility?</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skadden.com/index.cfm?contentID=45&amp;bioID=1000&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bob Bennett Scadden Arps&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/clientsum.asp?txtname=Verizon+Communications&amp;year=2007&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VerizonCommunications Lobbying Spending&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.skadden.com/index.cfm?contentID=45&amp;bioID=1000" rel="nofollow">Bob Bennett Scadden Arps</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/clientsum.asp?txtname=Verizon+Communications&amp;year=2007" rel="nofollow">VerizonCommunications Lobbying Spending</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Couple of more points now that we are trolling a mostly dead thread.  Understand that I have a weird take on this.  I could really give a lick about Clemens personally, but I am somewhat sympathetic to the position he is in because I, along with my old law partner, have represented several people in very similar circumstances (not the Congress part, that is way over the top).  There is also a giant chunk of the underlying steroids investigation that took place with acts and actors, with lawyers I am quite familiar with, right here in Phoenix.  This whole investigation has produced some results on the surface, but it is a rotting festering mess in the way it has been conducted.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Secondly, don’t buy into the pitched story on Clemens demanding the hearing.  The committee demanded the hearing and they threatened to subpoena everybody (they actually did Knoblauch, but never got him served before he agreed to come on his own).  But Clemens affirmatively said no need for any subpoena, I’ll come any and every time you want and I look forward to it.  Just before the hearing, the committee, and Waxman, suddenly wanted to scuttle the whole deal and tried to get Clemens to be the one to request that it not proceed, but he refused because he wanted to maintain his position that he was ready to testify.  That is the “demand” that Waxman bellows about; somewhat disingenuously if you ask me.  I still like Waxman a lot, and I will give him a pass here; but I don’t like, nor approve of, how he has handled all this one bit.  I would just be much happier if he stuck to the stuff that is critical out there right now, and that ain’t Roger Clemens.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lastly, haven’t seen you much for a while; glad you are back.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of more points now that we are trolling a mostly dead thread.  Understand that I have a weird take on this.  I could really give a lick about Clemens personally, but I am somewhat sympathetic to the position he is in because I, along with my old law partner, have represented several people in very similar circumstances (not the Congress part, that is way over the top).  There is also a giant chunk of the underlying steroids investigation that took place with acts and actors, with lawyers I am quite familiar with, right here in Phoenix.  This whole investigation has produced some results on the surface, but it is a rotting festering mess in the way it has been conducted.</p>
<p>Secondly, don’t buy into the pitched story on Clemens demanding the hearing.  The committee demanded the hearing and they threatened to subpoena everybody (they actually did Knoblauch, but never got him served before he agreed to come on his own).  But Clemens affirmatively said no need for any subpoena, I’ll come any and every time you want and I look forward to it.  Just before the hearing, the committee, and Waxman, suddenly wanted to scuttle the whole deal and tried to get Clemens to be the one to request that it not proceed, but he refused because he wanted to maintain his position that he was ready to testify.  That is the “demand” that Waxman bellows about; somewhat disingenuously if you ask me.  I still like Waxman a lot, and I will give him a pass here; but I don’t like, nor approve of, how he has handled all this one bit.  I would just be much happier if he stuck to the stuff that is critical out there right now, and that ain’t Roger Clemens.</p>
<p>Lastly, haven’t seen you much for a while; glad you are back.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, but this is a long way from over.  Petitte doesn’t look that great to me; on the day of the hearing, it had to be announced that he had already lied about how often and how much HGH he had used and now he has his father and friends from high school involved.  I can flat out guarantee that the reason Petitte was scratched from the hearing is that they were afraid of too many holes being punched in him too early and they did not want him exposed.  He is no hero and has not told the truth; or at least he is modifying it along the way.  Of course that doesn’t fit with your or the media’s narrative though; but in a court of law that will be very germane.  There are no heros in this case irrespective of the popular narrative; the whole pile reeks from top to bottom.  Curiously, in spite of the fact that he is probably lying, the only person who has maintained a consistent story (and again, I am not saying it will end up believable or true) is Clemens.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but this is a long way from over.  Petitte doesn’t look that great to me; on the day of the hearing, it had to be announced that he had already lied about how often and how much HGH he had used and now he has his father and friends from high school involved.  I can flat out guarantee that the reason Petitte was scratched from the hearing is that they were afraid of too many holes being punched in him too early and they did not want him exposed.  He is no hero and has not told the truth; or at least he is modifying it along the way.  Of course that doesn’t fit with your or the media’s narrative though; but in a court of law that will be very germane.  There are no heros in this case irrespective of the popular narrative; the whole pile reeks from top to bottom.  Curiously, in spite of the fact that he is probably lying, the only person who has maintained a consistent story (and again, I am not saying it will end up believable or true) is Clemens.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;make that “as shady and compromised as &lt;strong&gt;Dr.&lt;/strong&gt; McNamee proved to be”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>make that “as shady and compromised as <strong>Dr.</strong> McNamee proved to be”</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You would know better than I would&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe it was a mistake to allow him to think that testifying in front of the Oversight Committee would be a good opportunity to clear his name. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clemens spent the day on national TV looking like he was lying; about his wife’s HGH injection, the boil on his ass, the letters from Mitchell, the party in Miami, never having discussed HGH with McNamee, etc etc. Clemens testified as if ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ was the standard and the rules of evidence were the same as the court of law.  They were not.  This hearing was held in the court of public opinion and Clemens was the loser, even as shady and compromised as McNamee proved to be.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look at where Pettite ends up and look at where Clemens is; both guys were fingered by the same trainer. One is a hero for telling he truth and the other has a cloud over him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>You would know better than I would</strong>.</p>
<p>I believe it was a mistake to allow him to think that testifying in front of the Oversight Committee would be a good opportunity to clear his name. </p>
<p>Clemens spent the day on national TV looking like he was lying; about his wife’s HGH injection, the boil on his ass, the letters from Mitchell, the party in Miami, never having discussed HGH with McNamee, etc etc. Clemens testified as if ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ was the standard and the rules of evidence were the same as the court of law.  They were not.  This hearing was held in the court of public opinion and Clemens was the loser, even as shady and compromised as McNamee proved to be.  </p>
<p>Look at where Pettite ends up and look at where Clemens is; both guys were fingered by the same trainer. One is a hero for telling he truth and the other has a cloud over him.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/davidcorn/2008/02/is-the-new-york-times-bombshel.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Corn deconstructs Bob Bennet’s wednesday night email to journalists&lt;/a&gt; rebutting assertions made in the NYT article about Saint John McCain, concluding:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;There was one problem: none of Bennett’s statements refuted a single fact in the Times story. Not one. It was all rhetoric and bombast. To prove it, here are the Bennett remarks disseminated by the McCainiacs…&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/davidcorn/2008/02/is-the-new-york-times-bombshel.html" rel="nofollow">David Corn deconstructs Bob Bennet’s wednesday night email to journalists</a> rebutting assertions made in the NYT article about Saint John McCain, concluding:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>There was one problem: none of Bennett’s statements refuted a single fact in the Times story. Not one. It was all rhetoric and bombast. To prove it, here are the Bennett remarks disseminated by the McCainiacs…</em></p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heh, I will guarantee you one thing, and that is that Clemens’ counsel is not ineffective; he is one of the best going anywhere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I will guarantee you one thing, and that is that Clemens’ counsel is not ineffective; he is one of the best going anywhere.</p>
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