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	<title>Comments on: Shorter WSJ: George Bush Is Irrelevant and So Is McCain</title>
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		<title>By: JThomason</title>
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		<dc:creator>JThomason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey thanks. Yep New Mexico, where after the pristine Valle Vidal up on the Colorado border was saved by an act of Congress in the last couple of years from the invasive drilling onslagut under leases of reserved natural fuel gasses stemming the from the homesteading and mining laws of the 1870’s and of particular interest to this administration.  Fortunately, Tom Udall was able to put together a coalition in this case after a momentous public outcry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still, where the rubber hits the road on this issue, while VP Cheney is tying up DC traffic with his prolific motorcade to get his dog over to the vet, is that these gas leases are being aggresively exploited all along the west face of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains in both Colorado and New Mexico as well as the Chaco Canyon region. The gas wellheads required for such enterprise are particularly invasive as they are placed at short intervals, scar the land with extensive access networks, require intensive mechanical service and are maximized by the use of underground explosives.  The state of New Mexico has defensively enacted a one year moratorium on new wellheads, which the Feds and their lessees and purchasers are routinely ignoring.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At risk is the pristine serenity of mountain hamlets like Crestone, Colorado, of the San Luis Valley, a mecca of spiritual retreats and home to bison, deer and elk and the mysterious archeologically significant Chacoan Domain.  And lo and behold it appears to me that the principle contractor exploiting these reservations is one Halliburton Corporation.  Go figure?  Oh how to keep the public distracted from such things.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So that’s the news from the great Southwest.  Other than that I have been buried under much snow and dallying about trying to survive the mountain life.  I think, in retrospect, the journey over here to FDL makes sense especially because of the increased exposure that has followed.  It took me a bit to see how this would work though.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suppose I have been heartened by the contempt citations, if such a thing can be heartening.  But then Constitutional Justice has her ways.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks. Yep New Mexico, where after the pristine Valle Vidal up on the Colorado border was saved by an act of Congress in the last couple of years from the invasive drilling onslagut under leases of reserved natural fuel gasses stemming the from the homesteading and mining laws of the 1870’s and of particular interest to this administration.  Fortunately, Tom Udall was able to put together a coalition in this case after a momentous public outcry.</p>
<p>Still, where the rubber hits the road on this issue, while VP Cheney is tying up DC traffic with his prolific motorcade to get his dog over to the vet, is that these gas leases are being aggresively exploited all along the west face of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains in both Colorado and New Mexico as well as the Chaco Canyon region. The gas wellheads required for such enterprise are particularly invasive as they are placed at short intervals, scar the land with extensive access networks, require intensive mechanical service and are maximized by the use of underground explosives.  The state of New Mexico has defensively enacted a one year moratorium on new wellheads, which the Feds and their lessees and purchasers are routinely ignoring.</p>
<p>At risk is the pristine serenity of mountain hamlets like Crestone, Colorado, of the San Luis Valley, a mecca of spiritual retreats and home to bison, deer and elk and the mysterious archeologically significant Chacoan Domain.  And lo and behold it appears to me that the principle contractor exploiting these reservations is one Halliburton Corporation.  Go figure?  Oh how to keep the public distracted from such things.  </p>
<p>So that’s the news from the great Southwest.  Other than that I have been buried under much snow and dallying about trying to survive the mountain life.  I think, in retrospect, the journey over here to FDL makes sense especially because of the increased exposure that has followed.  It took me a bit to see how this would work though.</p>
<p>I suppose I have been heartened by the contempt citations, if such a thing can be heartening.  But then Constitutional Justice has her ways.</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let me get this straight WSJ…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush is doing all he can on immunity but no one is listening because &lt;strike&gt;his lying has caught up to him and his alliance with Cheney just tanks him&lt;/strike&gt; political capital is spent. So, McCain needs to become the “New Voice” on immunity because he is, after all, gaining momentum so he’ll be heard on this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did anyone think when they wrote this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I say go for it McCain.  Listen to the WSJ…You showed up to vote against the Constitution. A vote against the Constitution is a vote against security of American citizens.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama showed up and voted for the Constitution, which means he trumps you on security of American citizens.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really, who at the WSJ thought this argument would work? Goodness, send them to head up the McCain campaign!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight WSJ…</p>
<p>Bush is doing all he can on immunity but no one is listening because <strike>his lying has caught up to him and his alliance with Cheney just tanks him</strike> political capital is spent. So, McCain needs to become the “New Voice” on immunity because he is, after all, gaining momentum so he’ll be heard on this?</p>
<p>Did anyone think when they wrote this?</p>
<p>I say go for it McCain.  Listen to the WSJ…You showed up to vote against the Constitution. A vote against the Constitution is a vote against security of American citizens.</p>
<p>Obama showed up and voted for the Constitution, which means he trumps you on security of American citizens.</p>
<p>Really, who at the WSJ thought this argument would work? Goodness, send them to head up the McCain campaign!!!</p>
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		<title>By: rosalind</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosalind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and who can forget this oldie but goodie, the ashcroft comey goldsmith philbin letter from 10/29/07:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/10/31/shorter-4-top-lawyers-to-hell-with-the-courts/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://emptywheel.firedoglake......he-courts/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i was so angered by their letter i wrote my response to leahy &amp; spectre in record time, a task made easier by only having to reverse their arguments, i.e.:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The carrier immunity provision not only makes a mockery of the rule of law but provides unjust and unfair protection to companies who in a time of national crisis had a greater responsibility to ensure their actions complied with existing constitutional protections and promoted true national interests.  Years of expensive litigation and potentially ruinous damages is the proper recourse for citizens whose privacy has been sacrificed at the altar of a national security apparatus run amok.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and who can forget this oldie but goodie, the ashcroft comey goldsmith philbin letter from 10/29/07:</p>
<p><a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/10/31/shorter-4-top-lawyers-to-hell-with-the-courts/" rel="nofollow">http://emptywheel.firedoglake&#8230;&#8230;he-courts/</a></p>
<p>i was so angered by their letter i wrote my response to leahy &amp; spectre in record time, a task made easier by only having to reverse their arguments, i.e.:</p>
<p>“The carrier immunity provision not only makes a mockery of the rule of law but provides unjust and unfair protection to companies who in a time of national crisis had a greater responsibility to ensure their actions complied with existing constitutional protections and promoted true national interests.  Years of expensive litigation and potentially ruinous damages is the proper recourse for citizens whose privacy has been sacrificed at the altar of a national security apparatus run amok.”</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, New Mexico right?  Where you been?  You have been missed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: JThomason</title>
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		<dc:creator>JThomason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whew, that signing in was an ordeal.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, EW you are on fire with the forensic dissection of C. Rice’s rhetoric and now stripping down the code of the WSJ. Maybe its just euphoric recall from last February’s triumphs. In so many ways the WSJ is a talking points memo for Republican interests. The strategy is always deflection–just having something to say to divert attention away from the issue.  I have just had too many dialogues with a family member who depends on the Journal for his bluster not to be convinced that this is part of its role. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By deploying misleading information tactically in this way the resources of the alternative point of view are consumed in addressing intentionally anti-constitutional if not irrational inhumane positions.  Take for example the meme that because waterboarding is “psychological” and not “physical” it causes no real harm as if any science, complex as it may be, concerning the mind/body nexus did not exist.  Its the kind of political theater necessary to maintain a culture of political and economic intimidation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still the point is, aside from the technical basis of the standing issue, that there is another way to see and understand the motive of the rhetoric that seeks to justifiy and defend the politics of fear and intimidation while clouding the ultimate issues. You are as adroit as anyone writing today to in deploying this skill.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep it up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew, that signing in was an ordeal.  </p>
<p>Anyway, EW you are on fire with the forensic dissection of C. Rice’s rhetoric and now stripping down the code of the WSJ. Maybe its just euphoric recall from last February’s triumphs. In so many ways the WSJ is a talking points memo for Republican interests. The strategy is always deflection–just having something to say to divert attention away from the issue.  I have just had too many dialogues with a family member who depends on the Journal for his bluster not to be convinced that this is part of its role. </p>
<p>By deploying misleading information tactically in this way the resources of the alternative point of view are consumed in addressing intentionally anti-constitutional if not irrational inhumane positions.  Take for example the meme that because waterboarding is “psychological” and not “physical” it causes no real harm as if any science, complex as it may be, concerning the mind/body nexus did not exist.  Its the kind of political theater necessary to maintain a culture of political and economic intimidation. </p>
<p>Still the point is, aside from the technical basis of the standing issue, that there is another way to see and understand the motive of the rhetoric that seeks to justifiy and defend the politics of fear and intimidation while clouding the ultimate issues. You are as adroit as anyone writing today to in deploying this skill.</p>
<p>Keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They’ve got to do that–otherwise the increasingly discredited Bradbury will get to rewrite our COnstitution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: JohnJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh well, the whole point may be moot: SCOTUS just turned down the ACLU as having “no standing”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So WTF? Why are they continuing? Just to keep from losing ANYTHING at all costs?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, the whole point may be moot: SCOTUS just turned down the ACLU as having “no standing”.</p>
<p>So WTF? Why are they continuing? Just to keep from losing ANYTHING at all costs?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, I’m impressed! The Dem backbone has at least a little cartilage: both the House AND Senate are holding &lt;em&gt;pro forma&lt;/em&gt; sessions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Sorry can’t get the link to TPMuckraker to work, it’s the latest story.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No recess appointments or other crap this week.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I’m impressed! The Dem backbone has at least a little cartilage: both the House AND Senate are holding <em>pro forma</em> sessions.</p>
<p>(Sorry can’t get the link to TPMuckraker to work, it’s the latest story.)</p>
<p>No recess appointments or other crap this week.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is all something of a logical mess, isn’t it?  How is it exactly that telecoms would abet the Bush Administration’s warrantless wiretapping programs for years beginning before 9/11 knowing that they faced lawsuits down the road, lawsuits which if we are to believe the WSJ editorial would preclude just such participation? What part of “court order” were telecom CEOs and their vast and expensive legal expertise too stupid to understand?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I often point this out but the WSJ editorial is another example of the Right wing strategy of constructing a narrative, then sticking to it, and repeating it endlessly, regardless of how thoroughly and how often it is debunked.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all something of a logical mess, isn’t it?  How is it exactly that telecoms would abet the Bush Administration’s warrantless wiretapping programs for years beginning before 9/11 knowing that they faced lawsuits down the road, lawsuits which if we are to believe the WSJ editorial would preclude just such participation? What part of “court order” were telecom CEOs and their vast and expensive legal expertise too stupid to understand?</p>
<p>I often point this out but the WSJ editorial is another example of the Right wing strategy of constructing a narrative, then sticking to it, and repeating it endlessly, regardless of how thoroughly and how often it is debunked.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The ultimate accountability in Bush Land: Shareholder Lawsuits.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You don’t want that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ultimate accountability in Bush Land: Shareholder Lawsuits.</p>
<p>You don’t want that.</p>
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