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		<title>By: MrChip</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/19/or-maybe-those-cables-were-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-53939</link>
		<dc:creator>MrChip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My theory is it was one of those Katrina dolphins that the military armed and trained, either we set it loose upon the cables on porpoise (get it;) or it escaped during the storm and did it for the sheer joy those evil mammals get from doing tricks.  Either way it’s political embarrassing on a global scale.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My theory is it was one of those Katrina dolphins that the military armed and trained, either we set it loose upon the cables on porpoise (get it;) or it escaped during the storm and did it for the sheer joy those evil mammals get from doing tricks.  Either way it’s political embarrassing on a global scale.</p>
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		<title>By: kspena</title>
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		<dc:creator>kspena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe this piece by Pepe Escobar in Asia Times might add light to possible ‘reasons’ for the US gaining access to ME/EU traffic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Slouching towards Petroeurostan&lt;br /&gt;
By Pepe Escobar&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/JB21Dj07.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/G.....1Dj07.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this piece by Pepe Escobar in Asia Times might add light to possible ‘reasons’ for the US gaining access to ME/EU traffic.</p>
<p>Slouching towards Petroeurostan<br />
By Pepe Escobar</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/JB21Dj07.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/G&#8230;..1Dj07.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Let us all insure that our minds can’t be controlled then&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;got that one covered&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;they can’t control my mind&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can’t even control my mind&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;took me 40 years to learn to control my mouth …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and my mind still occasionally slips some stuff past my mouth’s monitoring system when I ain’t lookin …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(wink)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Let us all insure that our minds can’t be controlled then</strong></p>
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<p>got that one covered</p>
<p>they can’t control my mind</p>
<p>I can’t even control my mind</p>
<p>took me 40 years to learn to control my mouth …</p>
<p>and my mind still occasionally slips some stuff past my mouth’s monitoring system when I ain’t lookin …</p>
<p>(wink)</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/19/or-maybe-those-cables-were-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-53868</link>
		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;O/T …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Credit Suisse and USB have released analyst reports which say this will not be the move to dent the dollar… But did so before they had their books cooked and had to write down more US credit…Just thought this was an interesting read…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/JB21Dj07.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/G.....1Dj07.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O/T …</p>
<p>Credit Suisse and USB have released analyst reports which say this will not be the move to dent the dollar… But did so before they had their books cooked and had to write down more US credit…Just thought this was an interesting read…</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/JB21Dj07.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/G&#8230;..1Dj07.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My bad — I don’t remember the Abu Dhabi purchase.  It’s not unlike the recent acquisition of a nursing home chain in our state by Carlyle Group; doesn’t qualify as a change in ownership event, no notification required by the parties involved, since it was a stock transfer.  Ugh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That the ports sale never did get the full amount of attention it deserved should have been a warning to us that they’d go further with acquisitions of infrastructure, in this case financial.  I’m still waiting for somebody to get riled up over the change of NYSE’s ownership…nothing but crickets chirping for almost a year.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad — I don’t remember the Abu Dhabi purchase.  It’s not unlike the recent acquisition of a nursing home chain in our state by Carlyle Group; doesn’t qualify as a change in ownership event, no notification required by the parties involved, since it was a stock transfer.  Ugh.</p>
<p>That the ports sale never did get the full amount of attention it deserved should have been a warning to us that they’d go further with acquisitions of infrastructure, in this case financial.  I’m still waiting for somebody to get riled up over the change of NYSE’s ownership…nothing but crickets chirping for almost a year.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve pointed to it a couple of times before. In the 1970s and 1980s, it took a great deal of fraud to let outsides (including some with ties to terrorism) to take over our banks and therefore set up graft and money laundering in the US. Now, our top banks are available for a song.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve pointed to it a couple of times before. In the 1970s and 1980s, it took a great deal of fraud to let outsides (including some with ties to terrorism) to take over our banks and therefore set up graft and money laundering in the US. Now, our top banks are available for a song.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wired news has a good, although condescending, writeup on this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/02/who-cut-the-cab.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.wired.com/27bstrok.....e-cab.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wired news has a good, although condescending, writeup on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/02/who-cut-the-cab.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/27bstrok&#8230;..e-cab.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: NCDem</title>
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		<dc:creator>NCDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ll beg to differ. Here’s the way it may have gone/go down. It is all planned in advance and our own repairmen are ready. The cable is cut and inoperative. A few miles away a good portion of the cable is pulled to the surface, cut/spliced with needed electronics to monitor cable and then left for “real repairmen” to re-connect the first cut. Since the cable is down after the first cut, no one could detect the second splice since it was “dead”. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The key will be how far apart the dead ends of the first cable are when they are located. I would hope that a good detective would also require that when the new splice is done that the area where the cut was made is preserved for others to analyze.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ll beg to differ. Here’s the way it may have gone/go down. It is all planned in advance and our own repairmen are ready. The cable is cut and inoperative. A few miles away a good portion of the cable is pulled to the surface, cut/spliced with needed electronics to monitor cable and then left for “real repairmen” to re-connect the first cut. Since the cable is down after the first cut, no one could detect the second splice since it was “dead”. </p>
<p>The key will be how far apart the dead ends of the first cable are when they are located. I would hope that a good detective would also require that when the new splice is done that the area where the cut was made is preserved for others to analyze.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;41 - that may be your personal best, but you aren’t even close to being in my league yet.  *g*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wouldn’t really understand the long hardware post if you put it up, but I wouldn’t be bored by it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK - on my conspiracy front, I’d say that IF the cut lines have to do with anything, then my guess on what they have to do with would be the assassination of Mughniyeh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>41 &#8211; that may be your personal best, but you aren’t even close to being in my league yet.  *g*</p>
<p>I wouldn’t really understand the long hardware post if you put it up, but I wouldn’t be bored by it. </p>
<p>OK &#8211; on my conspiracy front, I’d say that IF the cut lines have to do with anything, then my guess on what they have to do with would be the assassination of Mughniyeh.</p>
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		<title>By: malcontent</title>
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		<dc:creator>malcontent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whether it was installing doohickies or uninstalling doohickies there is obviously shenanigans afoot.  It may be the USS Jimmy Carter, it may the the Russians who are pissed about new US missiles in Poland and it may be Mossad prepping for their new military offensive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All have motives in both directions, that is installing and uninstalling.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether it was installing doohickies or uninstalling doohickies there is obviously shenanigans afoot.  It may be the USS Jimmy Carter, it may the the Russians who are pissed about new US missiles in Poland and it may be Mossad prepping for their new military offensive.</p>
<p>All have motives in both directions, that is installing and uninstalling.</p>
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