Comments on: GOP Poisoning Swing State Voters to Win Elections http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Sara http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53569 Sara Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:59:18 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53569 <p>No, not a new mine, they are negotiating to build a steel mill, mostly owned by an Indian Firm, and also a huge coal fired electrical generating station, using Montana Coal, without, mind you, carbon controls. I believe the steel mill contemplates being powered by the electricity from the coal fired generator. They tried to get out from under MPA review, but the court shot that down. Anyway the steel would be made from local taconite, and the waste left on the shore. I really don’t think it will happen. For the most part, the Legislature has all sorts of studies indicating that off the North Shore is the best place to put a huge windfarm, and I think that will be built first. Supposedly it can do 10% of state’s electrical requirements. </p> <p>By the way, Michigan should put a windfarm on Isle Royal. All you got there now is Moose, and they are apparently diseased. So kill diseased Moose, import healthy Moose from the mainland, and build a windfarm. No reason Moose and windfarms cannot co-exist. Michigan could make a profit from it. </p> <p>lots of things changed when the Former Republican Health Commissioner was found to be hiding the study results.</p> No, not a new mine, they are negotiating to build a steel mill, mostly owned by an Indian Firm, and also a huge coal fired electrical generating station, using Montana Coal, without, mind you, carbon controls. I believe the steel mill contemplates being powered by the electricity from the coal fired generator. They tried to get out from under MPA review, but the court shot that down. Anyway the steel would be made from local taconite, and the waste left on the shore. I really don’t think it will happen. For the most part, the Legislature has all sorts of studies indicating that off the North Shore is the best place to put a huge windfarm, and I think that will be built first. Supposedly it can do 10% of state’s electrical requirements.

By the way, Michigan should put a windfarm on Isle Royal. All you got there now is Moose, and they are apparently diseased. So kill diseased Moose, import healthy Moose from the mainland, and build a windfarm. No reason Moose and windfarms cannot co-exist. Michigan could make a profit from it.

lots of things changed when the Former Republican Health Commissioner was found to be hiding the study results.

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53561 emptywheel Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:37:53 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53561 <p>Agree–as a cancer survivor that was one of the best books I read on the subject.</p> Agree–as a cancer survivor that was one of the best books I read on the subject.

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53560 emptywheel Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:37:28 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53560 <p>Weren’t they trying to open up a new mine in that area?</p> Weren’t they trying to open up a new mine in that area?

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53557 Leen Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:20:55 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53557 <p>One of my favorite books (besides Silent Spring) about environment and Cancer “Living Downstream” by Sandra Steingraber.</p> <p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Living-Downstream-Scientists-Investigation-Environment/dp/0375700994" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Living-D.....0375700994</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.steingraber.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.steingraber.com/</a></p> One of my favorite books (besides Silent Spring) about environment and Cancer “Living Downstream” by Sandra Steingraber.

http://www.amazon.com/Living-D…..0375700994

http://www.steingraber.com/

]]> By: Sara http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53555 Sara Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:16:57 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53555 <p>The Republican Health Commissioner in Minnesota lost her job early last fall for holding back a finished study that is part of this Great Lakes study. Report indicated we had an epidemic of Mesophylaomia (sp??) a type of cancer caused by Asbestos on the north shore of Lake Superior, a product of waste water from Taconite processing. The study was done jointly with CDC and the U of Minn, plus the Health Department. Someone in the group dropped a draft of the report to the media, and all hell broke loose. It is interesting because more than 20 years ago we had a very lengthy Federal Law Suit tried here on just this issue, and the Taconite Company was forced to stop putting the waste water in the lake, and pipe it to setteling ponds on land. Apparently the current problem is that some of the Asbestos doesn’t settle, but when the ponds dry up a bit, the stuff flies around in the wind — and the stuff in the lake from before the Lawsuit, well that’s still in the lake. Duluth drinks that water as do most of the North Shore towns. Part of the settlement was that the EPA was supposed to test Lake Superior water, but they defunded that in the first Bush II budget.</p> The Republican Health Commissioner in Minnesota lost her job early last fall for holding back a finished study that is part of this Great Lakes study. Report indicated we had an epidemic of Mesophylaomia (sp??) a type of cancer caused by Asbestos on the north shore of Lake Superior, a product of waste water from Taconite processing. The study was done jointly with CDC and the U of Minn, plus the Health Department. Someone in the group dropped a draft of the report to the media, and all hell broke loose. It is interesting because more than 20 years ago we had a very lengthy Federal Law Suit tried here on just this issue, and the Taconite Company was forced to stop putting the waste water in the lake, and pipe it to setteling ponds on land. Apparently the current problem is that some of the Asbestos doesn’t settle, but when the ponds dry up a bit, the stuff flies around in the wind — and the stuff in the lake from before the Lawsuit, well that’s still in the lake. Duluth drinks that water as do most of the North Shore towns. Part of the settlement was that the EPA was supposed to test Lake Superior water, but they defunded that in the first Bush II budget.

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53554 Leen Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:15:48 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53554 <p>Ohio has some of the highest cancer rates in the country. The Ohio River Valley has been a place for the fat cats to make billions off of coal powered power plants for years. These fat cats call foul when citizens demand that they upgrade and meet environmental standards, or they cry we will eliminate your jobs!</p> <p>Or they may move your whole town, pay you off just enough to shut you up and make sure that you can never collect medical compensation. Check this out</p> <p><a href="http://www.forgottenoh.com/Cheshire/cheshire.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forgottenoh.com/Cheshire/cheshire.html</a></p> Ohio has some of the highest cancer rates in the country. The Ohio River Valley has been a place for the fat cats to make billions off of coal powered power plants for years. These fat cats call foul when citizens demand that they upgrade and meet environmental standards, or they cry we will eliminate your jobs!

Or they may move your whole town, pay you off just enough to shut you up and make sure that you can never collect medical compensation. Check this out

http://www.forgottenoh.com/Cheshire/cheshire.html

]]> By: JohnLopresti http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53537 JohnLopresti Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:23:35 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53537 <p>The difficult part of the CheneyRove seemingly mundane rewarding of the reclamation district tillers of soil on the northern borderlands served in the Klamath watershed is, now, six years later, because of similar Republican ploys in the delta of the San Joaquin and Sacramento where agriculture combines with developers wishing to export water 400 miles south to LA, a neighboring anadromous fishery has collapsed, resulting in a certain blueDog’s having to sponsor financial subsidies to now unemployeed independent fishing persons. A roboCall one evening while at work put me in an audio assemblage a few months ago to listen to the blueDog announcement checks were in the mail to coast salmon fishing professionals because of the continuing collapse of the Klamath run. There is a cycle several years in duration, whereby snuffing the returning spawning adults appears as a collapsed fishery a year and more after the initial event, the species maturation cycle taking about 2-3 years, so, it is that long before the ocean phase is complete and fish are old enough to spawn in fresh water riverbeds. Evidently the Klamath run recovered for a few seasons, but other complex factors ensued. Water issues are heated politics in the region. The erstwhile script reading governor in CA sought political rewards for urging maximization of time delta water export pumps would be permitted to operate last year; currently the suspicion is, even with oversight, the pumps sending Sacramento water to LA and San Joaquin farms and nearby metropolises was excessive, and destroyed too many juvenile salmon for the key salmon run of the Sacramento system, the state’s largest salmon regeneration source, to remain at its historic levels, now collapsed in continuity in 2008 by recent reports. So now there are two formerly prime sources of salmon near extinction, at least until federal and states’ oversight examines all the causes and moves to implement a no-fish interegnum so the population might recover. I have some sources on the Arctic icemelt this past summer, to which I might link later, as well; as I recall, this too factors into the salmon disaster which basically began with Republican ag politics in 2002 and appears as if it will continue thru at least 2009-2010.</p> The difficult part of the CheneyRove seemingly mundane rewarding of the reclamation district tillers of soil on the northern borderlands served in the Klamath watershed is, now, six years later, because of similar Republican ploys in the delta of the San Joaquin and Sacramento where agriculture combines with developers wishing to export water 400 miles south to LA, a neighboring anadromous fishery has collapsed, resulting in a certain blueDog’s having to sponsor financial subsidies to now unemployeed independent fishing persons. A roboCall one evening while at work put me in an audio assemblage a few months ago to listen to the blueDog announcement checks were in the mail to coast salmon fishing professionals because of the continuing collapse of the Klamath run. There is a cycle several years in duration, whereby snuffing the returning spawning adults appears as a collapsed fishery a year and more after the initial event, the species maturation cycle taking about 2-3 years, so, it is that long before the ocean phase is complete and fish are old enough to spawn in fresh water riverbeds. Evidently the Klamath run recovered for a few seasons, but other complex factors ensued. Water issues are heated politics in the region. The erstwhile script reading governor in CA sought political rewards for urging maximization of time delta water export pumps would be permitted to operate last year; currently the suspicion is, even with oversight, the pumps sending Sacramento water to LA and San Joaquin farms and nearby metropolises was excessive, and destroyed too many juvenile salmon for the key salmon run of the Sacramento system, the state’s largest salmon regeneration source, to remain at its historic levels, now collapsed in continuity in 2008 by recent reports. So now there are two formerly prime sources of salmon near extinction, at least until federal and states’ oversight examines all the causes and moves to implement a no-fish interegnum so the population might recover. I have some sources on the Arctic icemelt this past summer, to which I might link later, as well; as I recall, this too factors into the salmon disaster which basically began with Republican ag politics in 2002 and appears as if it will continue thru at least 2009-2010.

]]> By: Rayne http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53530 Rayne Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:52:19 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53530 <p>There’s more coverage in the pipeline <a href="http://www.michiganmessenger.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=855" rel="nofollow">on this story</a>, just not certain how far out the next piece will be. Bugs the crap out of me that science simply doesn’t stand a chance against the morons in this administration.</p> <p>To make matters worse, this particular swing state has been bankrupted by crappy Republican policies to the point where <a href="http://www.michiganmessenger.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=874" rel="nofollow">there are no state monies for toxic site cleanups</a>, let along any contribution to cleanup at those AOC’s.</p> There’s more coverage in the pipeline on this story, just not certain how far out the next piece will be. Bugs the crap out of me that science simply doesn’t stand a chance against the morons in this administration.

To make matters worse, this particular swing state has been bankrupted by crappy Republican policies to the point where there are no state monies for toxic site cleanups, let along any contribution to cleanup at those AOC’s.

]]> By: cAustin http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53520 cAustin Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:30:11 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53520 <p>Zed?</p> Zed?

]]> By: cAustin http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53519 cAustin Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:29:49 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/18/gop-poisoning-swing-state-voters-to-win-elections/#comment-53519 <p>Grrrr. Arrrg.</p> Grrrr. Arrrg.

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