Comments on: A $40 Million “Comedic Gold” Pissing Contest with the Chinese http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:46:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: siri http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53543 siri Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:53:05 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53543 <p>if it has Bush’s prints all over it, OR CHENEY’S, as per pattern, SOMEONE will likely die in the process. Personally? I’M ducking!</p> if it has Bush’s prints all over it, OR CHENEY’S, as per pattern, SOMEONE will likely die in the process. Personally? I’M ducking!

]]> By: JamesJoyce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53467 JamesJoyce Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:44:42 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53467 <p>a constitutional glitch: <a href="http://wikileaks.cx/wiki/Bank_Julius_Baer_vs._Wikileaks" rel="nofollow">http://wikileaks.cx/wiki/Bank_....._Wikileaks</a></p> a constitutional glitch: http://wikileaks.cx/wiki/Bank_….._Wikileaks

]]> By: ProfessorFoland http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53462 ProfessorFoland Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:35:42 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53462 <p>Chinese response:</p> <p>“Oops, sorry, we were trying to flood the markets with UK Treasury notes.”</p> Chinese response:

“Oops, sorry, we were trying to flood the markets with UK Treasury notes.”

]]> By: merkwurdiglieber http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53446 merkwurdiglieber Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:48:09 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53446 <p>They might shoot at another satellite, claim to have missed, and oops,<br /> sorry, we were trying to hit our own.</p> They might shoot at another satellite, claim to have missed, and oops,
sorry, we were trying to hit our own.

]]> By: PJEvans http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53441 PJEvans Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:18:21 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53441 <p><a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009951.html#249713" rel="nofollow">Linky</a> to the comment I mentioned.</p> <p>5000 lbs is an SUV. Trash trucks run about 20000-25000 lbs when empty, for comparison. (I always wondered how useful running a landfill scale would be ….)</p> Linky to the comment I mentioned.

5000 lbs is an SUV. Trash trucks run about 20000-25000 lbs when empty, for comparison. (I always wondered how useful running a landfill scale would be ….)

]]> By: PJEvans http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53439 PJEvans Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:48:24 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53439 <p>There’s a thread on this at <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/" rel="nofollow">Making Light</a>, where one of the comments is phrased as a guide for the press on what’s going on here.<br /> Apparently what they plan to do is use one of the Navy’s ICBMs, and set it up so the final stage hits the satellite and they blow up together. We’re talking very low orbit (and getting lower all the time), so most of the pieces will hit atmosphere in a couple or three hours and burn up. It’s why they think this will work: the satellite has a known orbit, they’re tracking it carefully, and they have a system they’d like to try out that might just be able to reach it.</p> <p>I gather that what happened was the satellite lost its radio receiver or computer somehow, so its kick motor never put it into its proper orbit, and it doesn’t answer when it’s called. This happens every so often, but usually physics is allowed to solve the problem. Here-and-now we have a government that wants to play with its toys.</p> There’s a thread on this at Making Light, where one of the comments is phrased as a guide for the press on what’s going on here.
Apparently what they plan to do is use one of the Navy’s ICBMs, and set it up so the final stage hits the satellite and they blow up together. We’re talking very low orbit (and getting lower all the time), so most of the pieces will hit atmosphere in a couple or three hours and burn up. It’s why they think this will work: the satellite has a known orbit, they’re tracking it carefully, and they have a system they’d like to try out that might just be able to reach it.

I gather that what happened was the satellite lost its radio receiver or computer somehow, so its kick motor never put it into its proper orbit, and it doesn’t answer when it’s called. This happens every so often, but usually physics is allowed to solve the problem. Here-and-now we have a government that wants to play with its toys.

]]> By: ProfessorFoland http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53431 ProfessorFoland Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:55:04 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53431 <p>behindthefall–good question, I asked over at armscontrolwonk…</p> behindthefall–good question, I asked over at armscontrolwonk…

]]> By: mikenportc http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53426 mikenportc Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:07:02 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53426 <p>*behindthefall* ^ (wrong place . Was @ a NASCAR site , awhile ago .;D)</p> *behindthefall* ^ (wrong place . Was @ a NASCAR site , awhile ago .;D)

]]> By: mikenportc http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53425 mikenportc Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:04:44 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53425 <p>Saw this last night , by somebody griping about the cost </p> <p>” $40-$60 million? Why not just pay the Chinese to do it. ? They’d only charge $5 or $10M. Why not? We outsource everything else .”</p> <p>That there’s fun-nee </p> <p>behindthewheel, you might be right .(Anybody seen OJ lately? ;D) Kinda strange our satellite would fail , at the same time as the Chinese test.. This bunch is turning everybody into a foil-hat-black-helicopter-one-world-order-type nut .</p> Saw this last night , by somebody griping about the cost

” $40-$60 million? Why not just pay the Chinese to do it. ? They’d only charge $5 or $10M. Why not? We outsource everything else .”

That there’s fun-nee

behindthewheel, you might be right .(Anybody seen OJ lately? ;D) Kinda strange our satellite would fail , at the same time as the Chinese test.. This bunch is turning everybody into a foil-hat-black-helicopter-one-world-order-type nut .

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-53409 bmaz Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:34:27 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/16/a-40-million-comedic-gold-pissing-contest-with-the-chinese/#comment-53409 <p>Yeah, the reports on the size and weight of this thing don’t add up. <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/kh-12.htm" rel="nofollow">See here</a>.</p> Yeah, the reports on the size and weight of this thing don’t add up. See here.

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