Comments on: John Yarmuth (D-KY): 2006 Was About the Rule of Law http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53185 bmaz Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:16:22 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53185 <p>As you know, I have been harping on this for a long time now. There are also a couple of big and very connected nasty law firms out there, Perkins Cole is the one I have had the pleasure of, that have entire departments stuffed with telco specialists that are extremely slick and effective at fixing and cleaning up any issues for their prize clients. All why I have said from the get go that these guys have secret indemnification agreements with the Administration or they would not have played ball. It is how they do business; they did not suddenly forget that on the biggest liability they have ever faced. Busco has two problems; they need immunity to protected their own rears from blatant criminal culpability and they don’t want the American people finding out that they will be the ones paying any judgments and costs resulting from the lawsuits against the telcos. Both factors have them scared shitless.</p> As you know, I have been harping on this for a long time now. There are also a couple of big and very connected nasty law firms out there, Perkins Cole is the one I have had the pleasure of, that have entire departments stuffed with telco specialists that are extremely slick and effective at fixing and cleaning up any issues for their prize clients. All why I have said from the get go that these guys have secret indemnification agreements with the Administration or they would not have played ball. It is how they do business; they did not suddenly forget that on the biggest liability they have ever faced. Busco has two problems; they need immunity to protected their own rears from blatant criminal culpability and they don’t want the American people finding out that they will be the ones paying any judgments and costs resulting from the lawsuits against the telcos. Both factors have them scared shitless.

]]> By: PetePierce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53170 PetePierce Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:38:54 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53170 <p>Yup. I have seen many of the people formerly from DOJ National Security/Intelligence on the staffs of ATT, Comcast, Sprint as attorneys<br /> <strong><br /> <a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/oarm/jobs/office-of-intelligence-nsd-2007.htm" rel="nofollow">Help Wanted</a></strong></p> <p>Also there are many Telcom lobbyists who were <strong><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/former-doj-insi.html" rel="nofollow">with DOJ</a></strong></p> Yup. I have seen many of the people formerly from DOJ National Security/Intelligence on the staffs of ATT, Comcast, Sprint as attorneys

Help Wanted

Also there are many Telcom lobbyists who were with DOJ

]]> By: Rayne http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53169 Rayne Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:20:48 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53169 <p>No direct lies, granted, but a wide berth of the truth. [sigh]</p> No direct lies, granted, but a wide berth of the truth. [sigh]

]]> By: bobschacht http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53165 bobschacht Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:57:14 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53165 <p>“…Congresswoman Kay Granger who represents the Fort Worth area sent me her FISA update a short while ago. It is probably representative of the BS other Republicans are sending out to scare constituents.</p> <p>In less than 36 hours, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act will expire,…”</p> <p>Not bad– the first lie comes within the first 12 words. Now there’s economy of expression!</p> <p>Bob in HI</p> “…Congresswoman Kay Granger who represents the Fort Worth area sent me her FISA update a short while ago. It is probably representative of the BS other Republicans are sending out to scare constituents.

In less than 36 hours, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act will expire,…”

Not bad– the first lie comes within the first 12 words. Now there’s economy of expression!

Bob in HI

]]> By: sojourner http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53164 sojourner Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:49:01 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53164 <p>Gosh, Pete… “Intelligence Division of DOJ” </p> <p>Can that be? </p> Gosh, Pete… “Intelligence Division of DOJ”

Can that be?

]]> By: PetePierce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53163 PetePierce Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:40:51 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53163 <p>As has been pointed out, the PAA has a provision where its current orders continue for up to a year–so all this expiration hype by Bush and the caveocrats, Blue Dogs, and Republicans and Jello people in the Senate is simply hype. There are also orders that provide authorizations under the old 1978FISA law.</p> <p>And as for new venues to tap, hell, McConnell and Hayden and Cheney/Addington could give a flying fill in the blank about what law is in effect. They’ll do whatever the hell the want.</p> <p>BTW,<em> many</em> of the general counsel for the Telcoms came straight from the Intelligence Division of DOJ to double or more their salary at the Telcoms. There was nothing about a babe in the woods here. Their lawyers wrote the laws for years during several past administrations from their desks at DOJ.</p> <p>Reid’s <strong><a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/reid_bush_attempting_to_manufa.php#more" rel="nofollow">letter to shrub</a></strong> a little late after he brought SSCI to the floor, and <strong><a href="http://speaker.house.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=0533" rel="nofollow">Pelosi’s statement.</a></strong></p> As has been pointed out, the PAA has a provision where its current orders continue for up to a year–so all this expiration hype by Bush and the caveocrats, Blue Dogs, and Republicans and Jello people in the Senate is simply hype. There are also orders that provide authorizations under the old 1978FISA law.

And as for new venues to tap, hell, McConnell and Hayden and Cheney/Addington could give a flying fill in the blank about what law is in effect. They’ll do whatever the hell the want.

BTW, many of the general counsel for the Telcoms came straight from the Intelligence Division of DOJ to double or more their salary at the Telcoms. There was nothing about a babe in the woods here. Their lawyers wrote the laws for years during several past administrations from their desks at DOJ.

Reid’s letter to shrub a little late after he brought SSCI to the floor, and Pelosi’s statement.

]]> By: sojourner http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53162 sojourner Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:39:48 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53162 <p>Thanks, Rayne! I will do it right now! I am just SO tired of the BS…</p> Thanks, Rayne! I will do it right now! I am just SO tired of the BS…

]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53161 Mary Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:37:44 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53161 <p>63/66 - </p> <p>I’m guessing I shouldn’t do a youtube embed, but here’s the link</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4kTnP5VJ1k" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4kTnP5VJ1k</a></p> <p>Some celebration music for the House finally calling the bluff. I just realized, 2008 is election time for all of them, no staggered 6 year terms like the Senators. Not, of course, that whether or not a Democrat would stand up for the rule of law has anything whatsoever to do with primary challenges and pissed off voters.</p> 63/66 –

I’m guessing I shouldn’t do a youtube embed, but here’s the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4kTnP5VJ1k

Some celebration music for the House finally calling the bluff. I just realized, 2008 is election time for all of them, no staggered 6 year terms like the Senators. Not, of course, that whether or not a Democrat would stand up for the rule of law has anything whatsoever to do with primary challenges and pissed off voters.

]]> By: JTMinIA http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53160 JTMinIA Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:37:32 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53160 <p>Stabenow is a dirt-bag, but there aren’t any direct lies in that email. It would be nice if it admitted, for example, the vote against the Dodd amendment (if immunity is so bad), but Stabenow did vote against the final version of the bill, so that part is accurate.</p> <p>Did you write back?</p> Stabenow is a dirt-bag, but there aren’t any direct lies in that email. It would be nice if it admitted, for example, the vote against the Dodd amendment (if immunity is so bad), but Stabenow did vote against the final version of the bill, so that part is accurate.

Did you write back?

]]> By: Rayne http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53159 Rayne Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:32:20 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/14/john-yarmouth-d-ky-2006-was-about-the-rule-of-law/#comment-53159 <p>You want Granger’s chief of staff’s email addy?</p> <p>robert.head -at- mail.house.gov</p> <p>Send it to him.</p> <p>Probably why I got the email from Stabe so quickly — I sent a note direct to her COS.</p> You want Granger’s chief of staff’s email addy?

robert.head -at- mail.house.gov

Send it to him.

Probably why I got the email from Stabe so quickly — I sent a note direct to her COS.

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