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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/obama-heads-to-michigan/#comment-52879</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wow, a post by ew turns into a post by &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Litella&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Miss Emily Litella&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;what ???&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;it’s about a GM plant in Wisconsin, not Michigan&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;“Oh, that’s very different…”,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Never Mind&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you’re still my muse&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(wink)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, a post by ew turns into a post by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Litella" rel="nofollow">Miss Emily Litella</a></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>what ???</strong></p>
<p><strong>it’s about a GM plant in Wisconsin, not Michigan</strong></p>
<p><strong>“Oh, that’s very different…”,</strong></p>
<p><strong>Never Mind</strong></p>
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<p>you’re still my muse</p>
<p><em>(wink)</em></p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/obama-heads-to-michigan/#comment-52703</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I appreciate that many people who supported Edwards are now supporting Obama. I hope Edwards will do the same, and I hope all of them will feel after enough time has elapsed to tell, that their support directed toward Obama was justified.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate that many people who supported Edwards are now supporting Obama. I hope Edwards will do the same, and I hope all of them will feel after enough time has elapsed to tell, that their support directed toward Obama was justified.</p>
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		<title>By: flounder</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/obama-heads-to-michigan/#comment-52690</link>
		<dc:creator>flounder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Doesn’t the whole baseball oversight thing have to do with the fact that that MLB has some sort of antitrust waiver that gives the Feds some deeper fingers into the way they run things? Must say, they have better things to do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn’t the whole baseball oversight thing have to do with the fact that that MLB has some sort of antitrust waiver that gives the Feds some deeper fingers into the way they run things? Must say, they have better things to do.</p>
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		<title>By: BillE</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/obama-heads-to-michigan/#comment-52666</link>
		<dc:creator>BillE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT - I heard on the radio this morning that Chertoff was going to congress today and talk about domestic spy satellite use.  The blurb from the news mentioned that everything was worked out to come on line and that only privacy and the usual “Old America” stuff was in the way.  The report said that the spying wouldn’t be allowed on voice and written stuff ( which leaves out a ton of stuff. )  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I won’t be scared unless the Iraq defense/security contractors are kicked out and rebased in the US.  Awe, thats just too paranoid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, seriously has anyone heard any more about this stuff.  The radio report was on KYW-1060 in Philly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT &#8211; I heard on the radio this morning that Chertoff was going to congress today and talk about domestic spy satellite use.  The blurb from the news mentioned that everything was worked out to come on line and that only privacy and the usual “Old America” stuff was in the way.  The report said that the spying wouldn’t be allowed on voice and written stuff ( which leaves out a ton of stuff. )  </p>
<p>I won’t be scared unless the Iraq defense/security contractors are kicked out and rebased in the US.  Awe, thats just too paranoid.</p>
<p>But, seriously has anyone heard any more about this stuff.  The radio report was on KYW-1060 in Philly.</p>
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		<title>By: mkls</title>
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		<dc:creator>mkls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I couldn’t tell from my polling place — we have a high geezer quotient here and I voted at mid-day — but my VA county went 64-35 for Obama. And over 3000 more people voted in the Dem primary than the Republican.  That’s astounding to me.  We NEVER trend Dem. (Well, not since 1964…)  The population is largely white, older (huge retired population in well-heeled gated communities) and conservative.  I got one human and two robocalls reminding me to vote, but there were no signs out (just one for each candidate at the polling place).&lt;br /&gt;
In any event, ew, keep on kicking the tires of this thing — we need to start and keep accountability going — but it was pretty amazing to me that Obama seems to be picking up votes in populations he never did well in at first.&lt;br /&gt;
It was the bright note in an otherwise very bad day here — my alma mater’s president was fired by the board of visitors after a year of persecution by fundies and other FWs over removing a cross from the college chapel (William and Mary is a state-supported school), allowing students to choose what to spend student activities money on, increasing diversity in hiring of staff and student admissions, and increasing the number of scholarship kids.  Of course the rector, who happens to be Michael Powell, said the cause had nothing to do with that, but with some other issues we just don’t need to know about.  I didn’t think they’d really do it, but they did.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I couldn’t tell from my polling place — we have a high geezer quotient here and I voted at mid-day — but my VA county went 64-35 for Obama. And over 3000 more people voted in the Dem primary than the Republican.  That’s astounding to me.  We NEVER trend Dem. (Well, not since 1964…)  The population is largely white, older (huge retired population in well-heeled gated communities) and conservative.  I got one human and two robocalls reminding me to vote, but there were no signs out (just one for each candidate at the polling place).<br />
In any event, ew, keep on kicking the tires of this thing — we need to start and keep accountability going — but it was pretty amazing to me that Obama seems to be picking up votes in populations he never did well in at first.<br />
It was the bright note in an otherwise very bad day here — my alma mater’s president was fired by the board of visitors after a year of persecution by fundies and other FWs over removing a cross from the college chapel (William and Mary is a state-supported school), allowing students to choose what to spend student activities money on, increasing diversity in hiring of staff and student admissions, and increasing the number of scholarship kids.  Of course the rector, who happens to be Michael Powell, said the cause had nothing to do with that, but with some other issues we just don’t need to know about.  I didn’t think they’d really do it, but they did.</p>
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		<title>By: Redshift</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redshift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Evolute and others — anyone know if it’s &lt;em&gt;possible&lt;/em&gt; legally for the candidates to pay for caucuses? Apparently the first hurdle in Florida is that the money the DNC is offering ($850,000 iirc) is only about 20% of what they say caucuses would cost (and a primary is even more expensive.) It seems like the best solution, but unfortunately I can’t imagine the Clinton campaign supporting it, because they have less money to spare for splitting the expenses, having Obama pay for the whole thing would obviously influence the results, and they have the most to lose in a “re-do” at this point.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evolute and others — anyone know if it’s <em>possible</em> legally for the candidates to pay for caucuses? Apparently the first hurdle in Florida is that the money the DNC is offering ($850,000 iirc) is only about 20% of what they say caucuses would cost (and a primary is even more expensive.) It seems like the best solution, but unfortunately I can’t imagine the Clinton campaign supporting it, because they have less money to spare for splitting the expenses, having Obama pay for the whole thing would obviously influence the results, and they have the most to lose in a “re-do” at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi ew…here’s the press release from the Obama campaign re: this morning’s visit to GM-Janesville:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Barack Obama will visit the Janesville General Motors plant tomorrow during his swing through southern Wisconsin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Following a tour of the plant, Obama will deliver a major economic policy address laying out his “comprehensive agenda to restore economic balance and fairness, reclaim the American dream, and create millions of new jobs…”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ll be curious to see if he goes beyond “hope” and offers some details. We cheeseheads like the hope stuff but tend to like details too. And, if he wants to get the demographic he doesn’t currently have, he’ll need to offer up some. Just my 2 cents.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ew…here’s the press release from the Obama campaign re: this morning’s visit to GM-Janesville:</p>
<p>“Barack Obama will visit the Janesville General Motors plant tomorrow during his swing through southern Wisconsin.</p>
<p>Following a tour of the plant, Obama will deliver a major economic policy address laying out his “comprehensive agenda to restore economic balance and fairness, reclaim the American dream, and create millions of new jobs…”</p>
<p>I’ll be curious to see if he goes beyond “hope” and offers some details. We cheeseheads like the hope stuff but tend to like details too. And, if he wants to get the demographic he doesn’t currently have, he’ll need to offer up some. Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: JimWhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimWhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No problems here.  I’m still madly infatuated with the new laptop I bought Monday; for right now, the horror stories I’ve heard about Vista are not affecting me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problems here.  I’m still madly infatuated with the new laptop I bought Monday; for right now, the horror stories I’ve heard about Vista are not affecting me.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;so far, i’m ok this morning.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so far, i’m ok this morning.</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;O/T&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone having problems connecting to sites?  I have HS internet and EW’s and the Lake take forever to load.  Other progressives sites like TPM or Glenn are taking so long that my computer is timing out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any others out there having these problems?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O/T</p>
<p>Anyone having problems connecting to sites?  I have HS internet and EW’s and the Lake take forever to load.  Other progressives sites like TPM or Glenn are taking so long that my computer is timing out.</p>
<p>Any others out there having these problems?</p>
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