Comments on: FISA: On to the House http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:54:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: cboldt http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52650 cboldt Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:51:37 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52650 <p><i>Should the White House refuse to be responsive to most or all of the requests and questions in the Conyers letter, would opinion in the House be swayed significantly in the direction of opposing the Senate bill as written?</i></p> <p>No.</p> <p>See for a parallel, the reaction to stonewalling on the subject of US Attorney replacement (a matter that is determined by STATUTE, not by the Constitution).</p> <p>While there may be a little bit of motion or reaction, there isn’t enough to sway the body as a whole to the opposite direction.</p> Should the White House refuse to be responsive to most or all of the requests and questions in the Conyers letter, would opinion in the House be swayed significantly in the direction of opposing the Senate bill as written?

No.

See for a parallel, the reaction to stonewalling on the subject of US Attorney replacement (a matter that is determined by STATUTE, not by the Constitution).

While there may be a little bit of motion or reaction, there isn’t enough to sway the body as a whole to the opposite direction.

]]> By: PetePierce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52620 PetePierce Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:36:20 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52620 <p>Not having any, but sometimes when I open a couple EW or FDL windows <em>simultaneously</em>, it seems to gobble disproportionate resources and moving around the FDL/EW sites is a little slow. I don’t have a good explanation for why this happens–and I ususally defrag, bounce spyware, yadayada for “browser hygeine” but it doesn’t impact this.</p> Not having any, but sometimes when I open a couple EW or FDL windows simultaneously, it seems to gobble disproportionate resources and moving around the FDL/EW sites is a little slow. I don’t have a good explanation for why this happens–and I ususally defrag, bounce spyware, yadayada for “browser hygeine” but it doesn’t impact this.

]]> By: Sedgequill http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52618 Sedgequill Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:22:23 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52618 <p>Should the White House refuse to be responsive to most or all of the requests and questions in the Conyers letter, would opinion in the House be swayed significantly in the direction of opposing the Senate bill as written?</p> Should the White House refuse to be responsive to most or all of the requests and questions in the Conyers letter, would opinion in the House be swayed significantly in the direction of opposing the Senate bill as written?

]]> By: JohnLopresti http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52596 JohnLopresti Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:49:49 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52596 <p>reDiF, She has been a staunch supporter of the military; counted on her presence at the airshow each year; stirring spectacles aficionada. But I think one approach with her could be, someday, asking about the smarting residua of the Pacific Telesis takeover and subsequent redirection under TX Whitacre’s aegis; PT a substantial contributor on both sides of the aisle as a guarantee. Privacy important to her, but the rocky course thru public life she experienced always bends her rightward, a part of the spectrum she is free to represent in her moderate-part-of-spectrum homestate. I.e., I think there is opportunity there, if well accented. But with the Hepting fracas still on the front stoop, a notoriety which she would like to see evanesce. I know: late to the fray on this; but there may be more opportunity to readdress Senate concerns, if Conyers aggregates more support in that other chamber on the elusive documents he enumerates. Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly was especially inviting in the Crew opinion yesterday, as if some on the bench are willing to examine more finely the distinctions between executive privilege vs privacy in extant law on foia.</p> reDiF, She has been a staunch supporter of the military; counted on her presence at the airshow each year; stirring spectacles aficionada. But I think one approach with her could be, someday, asking about the smarting residua of the Pacific Telesis takeover and subsequent redirection under TX Whitacre’s aegis; PT a substantial contributor on both sides of the aisle as a guarantee. Privacy important to her, but the rocky course thru public life she experienced always bends her rightward, a part of the spectrum she is free to represent in her moderate-part-of-spectrum homestate. I.e., I think there is opportunity there, if well accented. But with the Hepting fracas still on the front stoop, a notoriety which she would like to see evanesce. I know: late to the fray on this; but there may be more opportunity to readdress Senate concerns, if Conyers aggregates more support in that other chamber on the elusive documents he enumerates. Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly was especially inviting in the Crew opinion yesterday, as if some on the bench are willing to examine more finely the distinctions between executive privilege vs privacy in extant law on foia.

]]> By: sojourner http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52593 sojourner Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:47:01 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52593 <p>I read through it, and even though I am not a congress critter or attorney, it seems to me that Mr Conyers may be telling Mr. Fielding exactly what has to happen if he even expects for there to be a vote on the PAA. After all the disheartening action today in the Senate, this sounds like a ray of hope — that maybe someone is ready to go for broke.</p> <p>I PRAY that is what this means…</p> I read through it, and even though I am not a congress critter or attorney, it seems to me that Mr Conyers may be telling Mr. Fielding exactly what has to happen if he even expects for there to be a vote on the PAA. After all the disheartening action today in the Senate, this sounds like a ray of hope — that maybe someone is ready to go for broke.

I PRAY that is what this means…

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52592 emptywheel Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:43:56 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52592 <p>With this bill, you gotta take the bright spots where you find them. And frankly, we ought to be emphasizing that so many other Democrats believe the laws are optional. Furthermore, I suspect DiFi made this vote to exert some pressure to get exclusivity included in the final bill. In which case, we ought to support her on it–because the exclusivity provision is 1) one of the three things (minimization is another) that would provide some kind of check on this and 2) potentially a poison pill and certainly a law we can hold Bush to–without it, he can continue to break the law at will.</p> With this bill, you gotta take the bright spots where you find them. And frankly, we ought to be emphasizing that so many other Democrats believe the laws are optional. Furthermore, I suspect DiFi made this vote to exert some pressure to get exclusivity included in the final bill. In which case, we ought to support her on it–because the exclusivity provision is 1) one of the three things (minimization is another) that would provide some kind of check on this and 2) potentially a poison pill and certainly a law we can hold Bush to–without it, he can continue to break the law at will.

]]> By: RevDeb http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52589 RevDeb Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:33:48 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52589 <p>Had her vote had the possibility of making a difference . . . . who knows what she would have done.</p> Had her vote had the possibility of making a difference . . . . who knows what she would have done.

]]> By: rosalind http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52588 rosalind Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:32:13 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52588 <p>as a long suffering constituent of difi, i cynically suspect her vote was rooted in hurt feelings at her bi-partisany amendment going down to defeat.</p> <p>it’s all about comity for our lady di.</p> as a long suffering constituent of difi, i cynically suspect her vote was rooted in hurt feelings at her bi-partisany amendment going down to defeat.

it’s all about comity for our lady di.

]]> By: JTMinIA http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52587 JTMinIA Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:28:47 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52587 <p>My browser shut down twice when trying to post on FDL a minute ago.</p> <p>I suppose, with immunity, viruses are legal now, too.</p> <p>Now where’d I put my tin hat?</p> My browser shut down twice when trying to post on FDL a minute ago.

I suppose, with immunity, viruses are legal now, too.

Now where’d I put my tin hat?

]]> By: RevDeb http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/comment-page-1/#comment-52586 RevDeb Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:25:10 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-on-to-the-house/#comment-52586 <p>Oh, and the mug, Christy thought it was cool too. I thought that our congresscritters each need their own. Joe Sestak is throwing an event on anti-violence next week that I’ve been invited to and I plan to bring him his very own.</p> Oh, and the mug, Christy thought it was cool too. I thought that our congresscritters each need their own. Joe Sestak is throwing an event on anti-violence next week that I’ve been invited to and I plan to bring him his very own.

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