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	<title>Comments on: Is Dem Turnout So High Because They Like Us &#8230; Or Because We&#8217;re Spending Money?</title>
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		<title>By: stagemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>stagemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for this great post, mw.&lt;br /&gt;
stagedad keeps hounding me about this!&lt;br /&gt;
“blahblah how can mccain be tied blahblah”&lt;br /&gt;
all.  weekend.  long.&lt;br /&gt;
you’d think he was an INTP or sumpin’.&lt;br /&gt;
have i told you recently how much i admire you!&lt;br /&gt;
and all the commenters.&lt;br /&gt;
the very best!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this great post, mw.<br />
stagedad keeps hounding me about this!<br />
“blahblah how can mccain be tied blahblah”<br />
all.  weekend.  long.<br />
you’d think he was an INTP or sumpin’.<br />
have i told you recently how much i admire you!<br />
and all the commenters.<br />
the very best!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was merely an exercise to make a point and generate discussion, not the be all and end all of number crunching. It is what it is.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was merely an exercise to make a point and generate discussion, not the be all and end all of number crunching. It is what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: frahse</title>
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		<dc:creator>frahse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Am I missing something here?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why are only 3 Democrats shown in the money tallies?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where are Richardson, Kucinich, Dodd, Biden, Bayh, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That would raise the totals.&lt;br /&gt;
reply&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I missing something here?</p>
<p>Why are only 3 Democrats shown in the money tallies?</p>
<p>Where are Richardson, Kucinich, Dodd, Biden, Bayh, etc.</p>
<p>That would raise the totals.<br />
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Notice two things:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edwards raised more than McCain has so far — and Edwards bailed because he was getting swamped in the money race by Obama and Clinton.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice two things:</p>
<p>Edwards raised more than McCain has so far — and Edwards bailed because he was getting swamped in the money race by Obama and Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fair enough for me; that gives me pause.  I’ll ask around here, if there is any info available, I have a couple of friends that will know.  If I find anything, I will report promptly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough for me; that gives me pause.  I’ll ask around here, if there is any info available, I have a couple of friends that will know.  If I find anything, I will report promptly.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;bmaz — this is what was relayed to me immediately following a campaign event by a reporter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They called McCain’s press guy and described what happened — that they were turning to leave the press area (where they’d been standing with reporters and asked a question from the pool) and McCain grabbed the reporter’s hand, and when McCain did they noticed that it was quite warm and shaking. They had a strong impression from this, particularly since McCain had just mentioned his visit to the funeral home more than once during his speech/chat with pool (believe the event was held at or near a funeral home - the repetition seemed odd). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The campaign spokesman denied that McCain had any health problems and said that he was looking forward to a strong finish in Michigan that day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Moments later a woman called the reporter from the McCain campaign to ask if they were writing something about McCain having health problems. She said she wanted to talk to their editor if they were planning on mentioning anything about this. She suggested that perhaps McCain was shaking because he had come in from the cold. (Not the case.) She was REALLY aggressive and said she could send medical records to prove McCain’s clean bill of health. When the reporter asked her to repeat her name she refused.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There was a phone call, too, in which the reporter conveyed how disconcerting and obviously the tremor was.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Make your own assessment; I personally believe we should be asking more questions related to his personal health if this “old gasbag” has now received the nod from the Bushies/Cheneyites, well in advance of a VP candidate being named.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmaz — this is what was relayed to me immediately following a campaign event by a reporter.</p>
<p>They called McCain’s press guy and described what happened — that they were turning to leave the press area (where they’d been standing with reporters and asked a question from the pool) and McCain grabbed the reporter’s hand, and when McCain did they noticed that it was quite warm and shaking. They had a strong impression from this, particularly since McCain had just mentioned his visit to the funeral home more than once during his speech/chat with pool (believe the event was held at or near a funeral home &#8211; the repetition seemed odd). </p>
<p>The campaign spokesman denied that McCain had any health problems and said that he was looking forward to a strong finish in Michigan that day.</p>
<p>Moments later a woman called the reporter from the McCain campaign to ask if they were writing something about McCain having health problems. She said she wanted to talk to their editor if they were planning on mentioning anything about this. She suggested that perhaps McCain was shaking because he had come in from the cold. (Not the case.) She was REALLY aggressive and said she could send medical records to prove McCain’s clean bill of health. When the reporter asked her to repeat her name she refused.</p>
<p>There was a phone call, too, in which the reporter conveyed how disconcerting and obviously the tremor was.</p>
<p>Make your own assessment; I personally believe we should be asking more questions related to his personal health if this “old gasbag” has now received the nod from the Bushies/Cheneyites, well in advance of a VP candidate being named.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I worked with/for Mo Udall around when his Parkinsons first manifested itself.  I am not around, nor as informed about, McCain but, living in Arizona, we see plenty of the old gluehorse.  For the record, I have not seen any Parkinsons symptoms, nor heard of any evidence thereof from anybody else.   I have all kinds of issues with the old gasbag, but that isn’t one of them from anything I am aware of at this point.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked with/for Mo Udall around when his Parkinsons first manifested itself.  I am not around, nor as informed about, McCain but, living in Arizona, we see plenty of the old gluehorse.  For the record, I have not seen any Parkinsons symptoms, nor heard of any evidence thereof from anybody else.   I have all kinds of issues with the old gasbag, but that isn’t one of them from anything I am aware of at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
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		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That was scary. My Mom is the one who talked me down from McCain in 2000 saying that he was “very conservative” and pro-life. Now, this was the Republican primary so it didn’t matter. I am not sure I even voted [IN THE PRIMARY!] that year. There is a very small part of me that rejoices that McCain will get the nomination because in 2000 he was so screwed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was scary. My Mom is the one who talked me down from McCain in 2000 saying that he was “very conservative” and pro-life. Now, this was the Republican primary so it didn’t matter. I am not sure I even voted [IN THE PRIMARY!] that year. There is a very small part of me that rejoices that McCain will get the nomination because in 2000 he was so screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: lllphd</title>
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		<dc:creator>lllphd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;rayne, thanks so much for the trouble!  appreciate the effort, as i’m forever forgetting where i saw some photo or article or other.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that being said, i don’t find the photo compelling.  it is, after all, a snapshot, and could have easily been taken in between moments, such as looking up from his notes to the audience, or whatever.  a transition moment, if you will.  i have, tho, seen enough of mccain ‘in action,’ if you will, from videos of him talking and chatting and delivering speeches and responding to questions.  and i honestly do not see that this photo you linked to is representative of his countenance.  the ‘masked facies’ you might be looking for that is generally associated with Parkinson’s is actually a state of the facial muscles that the patient is unable to change in any way, because they no longer have control over those muscles.  moreover, typically when the disease has advanced to that stage where masked facies is prevailing, the other symptoms have become pretty dominant.  but then, the disease can advance so differently for different folks, some advancing faster than others, etc.  still, i honestly don’t see enough of those symptoms in mccain. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;all THAT being said, i would acknowledge that mccain’s history of 7 (?)years of being brutalized, confined, etc., may well place him at risk for another version of pyramidal cell or movement disorders with neuromuscular symptoms.  nevertheless, longevity is highly genetic, and you’ll notice that he trots out his almost 96 year old mother at every opportunity, and she is sharp as a tack.  in fact, almost too sharp for his campaign’s comfort!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so bottom line here, from my humble perspective, is that we simply don’t have enough info to go diagnosing mccain with something like parkinson’s disease.  tho i will admit that the behaviors of his campaign staff WRT his health issues raise some concerns, and the questions should not be left alone, there just isn’t enough to go down the parkinson’s route.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rayne, thanks so much for the trouble!  appreciate the effort, as i’m forever forgetting where i saw some photo or article or other.</p>
<p>that being said, i don’t find the photo compelling.  it is, after all, a snapshot, and could have easily been taken in between moments, such as looking up from his notes to the audience, or whatever.  a transition moment, if you will.  i have, tho, seen enough of mccain ‘in action,’ if you will, from videos of him talking and chatting and delivering speeches and responding to questions.  and i honestly do not see that this photo you linked to is representative of his countenance.  the ‘masked facies’ you might be looking for that is generally associated with Parkinson’s is actually a state of the facial muscles that the patient is unable to change in any way, because they no longer have control over those muscles.  moreover, typically when the disease has advanced to that stage where masked facies is prevailing, the other symptoms have become pretty dominant.  but then, the disease can advance so differently for different folks, some advancing faster than others, etc.  still, i honestly don’t see enough of those symptoms in mccain. </p>
<p>all THAT being said, i would acknowledge that mccain’s history of 7 (?)years of being brutalized, confined, etc., may well place him at risk for another version of pyramidal cell or movement disorders with neuromuscular symptoms.  nevertheless, longevity is highly genetic, and you’ll notice that he trots out his almost 96 year old mother at every opportunity, and she is sharp as a tack.  in fact, almost too sharp for his campaign’s comfort!</p>
<p>so bottom line here, from my humble perspective, is that we simply don’t have enough info to go diagnosing mccain with something like parkinson’s disease.  tho i will admit that the behaviors of his campaign staff WRT his health issues raise some concerns, and the questions should not be left alone, there just isn’t enough to go down the parkinson’s route.</p>
<p>thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Middento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Middento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Naturally, I get to this post late — but I’ve actually been wondering what the increased turnouts I’ve been hearing will mean in a long-term sense. Thanks for even the speculation here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(PS. We are bracing ourselves here as we are about to have our turn. And I’ve been put in charge of a new district, funny enough. Smaller, and within walking distance! Woohoo! Wish us luck!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally, I get to this post late — but I’ve actually been wondering what the increased turnouts I’ve been hearing will mean in a long-term sense. Thanks for even the speculation here.</p>
<p>(PS. We are bracing ourselves here as we are about to have our turn. And I’ve been put in charge of a new district, funny enough. Smaller, and within walking distance! Woohoo! Wish us luck!)</p>
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