Comments on: Feingold Slaps Down Bond’s, Mukasey’s, and McConnell’s “Tired Accusations”

By: acerigger

acerigger — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:21:18 +0000

we tend to lose sight of the fact that the “government” intends to have all of us under it’s control! that’s why dems are bowing to repugs on the issues of “our” constitutional rights.they don’t intend to rule a country, they intend to rule a society.

By: Sedgequill

Sedgequill — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:20:25 +0000

Were fear and anti-Islamic prejudice to diminish enough, or were the majority of the public and the majority of their legislators to grow tired and exasperated from hearing dubious and flagrantly false accounts of what’s being done and why, the Bush administration would have a hard time locking in the programs they want, so the press is on.

By: Sedgequill

Sedgequill — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:04:01 +0000

I meant my 47 as a reply to skdadl’s 44.

By: Sedgequill

Sedgequill — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:59:53 +0000

I’d wondered the same thing. Word count during waterboarding, maybe? I can’t think of a valid means of measurement.

By: brendanscalling

brendanscalling — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:57:05 +0000

with democrats like rockefeller, you might as well have a thuglican.

I don’t expect him to lose, but I would be happy if he did.

By: radiofreewill

radiofreewill — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:56:39 +0000

To me, at least, Hayden has come to symbolize the “Conflict of Legitimacy” Faced by All of the military-style, chain-of-command People inside BushCo - Until Bush’s “Un-checked and Un-balanced Authority” is stricken-down by Congress and/or the Courts, until then, Our men and women in uniform, like Hayden, are going to feel “obligated” to Salute and Follow Orders.

Before they invoke the Nuremburg Defense, they Follow Orders.

No matter how conflicted these folks may be - Torture, Spying on Citizens Based on Suspicion, Destroying Evidence, Carpet Bombing a Neighborhood, Leaking Classified Information, etc - no matter how conflicted they may be, as long as Bush is “vested” with the “Moral Authority” he grabbed when he Crowned himself UE, they will “Do as They are Told.”

And, for the parts that even the Military won’t do - Bush will use Contractors - Depravity can be Bought.

There’s a Monster in the White House, but Our Representatives in Congress and Our Institutions of the Law are Too Afraid to Challenge His Claim to Legitimacy.

In the face of such Weakness, We should Expect the Boots to Keep Marching…on US.

By: skdadl

skdadl — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:11:15 +0000

a quarter of all the human intelligence the CIA gained

That little detail fascinated me, too. How does he measure that “quarter”? How is that done? I’m trying to imagine how they weigh up or measure out all the intel they get. Either that, or I’m suspecting he just made that up. Figures always sound good, I guess.

By: MadDog

MadDog — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:36:46 +0000

From Froomkin:

Walter Pincus writes in The Washington Post: “After the hearing, Hayden told reporters that the information obtained from those detainees amounted to a quarter of all the human intelligence the CIA gained about the terrorist organization between 2002 and 2006.

“‘We would not have done it if it were not that valuable,’ Hayden said.”

Mikey always seems to get his logic backwards:

1. We tortured these folks first.
2. Then got intel from them.

So, how did Mikey know before torturing them, that he’d get valuable intel?

He didn’t, he couldn’t, so it appears Mikey is lying, again!

By: JimWhite

JimWhite — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:36:10 +0000

Domenici also voted yes, but he is retiring instead of running for reelection this year.

By: nomolos

nomolos — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:02:59 +0000

They don’e care. They will lie as long as they can as they know full well that the Dems are not going to do a damn thing about it. Where is the incentive for telling the truth when by lying you get all kinds of bennies from the gummint like healthcare for ever and double dip pensions.