Comments on: AG Claims Clear Evidence of Legal Liability Does Not Constitute a Basis for Investigation http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:35:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ionion http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-49014 Ionion Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:01:35 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-49014 <p>“The NBC News analysis shows that more than one quarter of all footnotes in the 9/11 Report refer to CIA interrogations of al-Qaida operatives who were subjected to the now-controversial interrogation techniques. In fact, information derived from the interrogations is central to the Report’s most critical chapters, those on the planning and execution of the attacks. The analysis also shows - and agency and commission staffers concur - there was a separate, second round of interrogations in early 2004, done specifically to answer new questions from the Commission.”</p> <p><a href="http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/30/624314.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://deepbackground.msnbc.ms.....24314.aspx</a></p> <p>Someone may find that relevant………..The Ionion/RodUnderleaf</p> “The NBC News analysis shows that more than one quarter of all footnotes in the 9/11 Report refer to CIA interrogations of al-Qaida operatives who were subjected to the now-controversial interrogation techniques. In fact, information derived from the interrogations is central to the Report’s most critical chapters, those on the planning and execution of the attacks. The analysis also shows – and agency and commission staffers concur – there was a separate, second round of interrogations in early 2004, done specifically to answer new questions from the Commission.”

http://deepbackground.msnbc.ms…..24314.aspx

Someone may find that relevant………..The Ionion/RodUnderleaf

]]> By: earlofhuntingdon http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-48921 earlofhuntingdon Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:17:19 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-48921 <p>One nuance I missed in Mukasey’s dialogue with Sen. Kennedy was how he described waterboarding <em>if done to him</em>. He would “feel” like it was torture. That’s not an admission or legal opinion. It’s a personal statement. He was <em>very </em>well prepared, and stayed on Addington’s message points to the letter.</p> One nuance I missed in Mukasey’s dialogue with Sen. Kennedy was how he described waterboarding if done to him. He would “feel” like it was torture. That’s not an admission or legal opinion. It’s a personal statement. He was very well prepared, and stayed on Addington’s message points to the letter.

]]> By: maryo2 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-48916 maryo2 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:49:43 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-48916 <p>Absolutely. I noticed yesterday that Republican Senators are using the phrase “the Government” to lump the Congress together with Bush Cronies. During the FISA conversations, they kept saying “the Government” requested the phone records of US citizens.</p> <p>I think the phrasing and lumping-together is intentional and deliberate. (To mislead the public and to protect Bush cronies as well as GOP enablers.)</p> Absolutely. I noticed yesterday that Republican Senators are using the phrase “the Government” to lump the Congress together with Bush Cronies. During the FISA conversations, they kept saying “the Government” requested the phone records of US citizens.

I think the phrasing and lumping-together is intentional and deliberate. (To mislead the public and to protect Bush cronies as well as GOP enablers.)

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-48914 Leen Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:45:17 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-48914 <p>So why did he come back in? To do their dirty work? Who or what is he trying to protect?</p> So why did he come back in? To do their dirty work? Who or what is he trying to protect?

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-48913 Leen Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:41:04 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-48913 <p>Thanks</p> Thanks

]]> By: Hugh http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-48899 Hugh Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:45:59 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-48899 <p>Mukasey could have stayed retired and kept his reputation. He didn’t and history that would have ignored him or regulated him to a footnote will tar him along with all the other moral lepers that make up this Administration.</p> <p>I reiterate my Mukasey Priniciple. No one with an iota of integrity would work in this Administration. Accepting a position in it is an admission that Mukasey has no integrity. Events such as hisrecent Congressional appearance prove this.</p> Mukasey could have stayed retired and kept his reputation. He didn’t and history that would have ignored him or regulated him to a footnote will tar him along with all the other moral lepers that make up this Administration.

I reiterate my Mukasey Priniciple. No one with an iota of integrity would work in this Administration. Accepting a position in it is an admission that Mukasey has no integrity. Events such as hisrecent Congressional appearance prove this.

]]> By: CasualObserver http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-48894 CasualObserver Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:41:02 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-48894 <p>Completely OT–is there going to be a final trash-talk thread? A venue for pre-Superbowl hot air?</p> Completely OT–is there going to be a final trash-talk thread? A venue for pre-Superbowl hot air?

]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-48893 Mary Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:39:03 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-48893 <p>I think Mukasey’s nomination had very little to do with people expecting a lot from him - Bush wasn’t going to nominate anyone from whom much could be expected - but rahter the alternative to not approving him.</p> <p>Keisler, as I recall. With Keisler you can bet that you would not have received even the minimal re-establishment of brakes and controls on WH contact with the AG’s office. So in the Mukasey v. Keisler choice, I think they were probably better with Mukasy, although it has been just flat out sad to watch him fade into nothing more than a petty mouthpiece for a criminal, advocating for torture and for the continued use of the Dept of Justice to cover up Executive crimes as their raison d’etre, but only the partisan approved crimes and the inner circle crimes. Watching him create an aristocracy free from the constraints of law - created and kept by their owned prosecutors who deny them nothing, and solicit for them horrors. They’ve really used the Dept of Justice and the Dems in Congress to irrevocably and irretrievably weave torture and disappearing men, women and even young children, into the fabric of what this nation is. </p> <p>And we let them.</p> <p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=oq8iFiMnWbI" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=oq8iFiMnWbI</a></p> I think Mukasey’s nomination had very little to do with people expecting a lot from him – Bush wasn’t going to nominate anyone from whom much could be expected – but rahter the alternative to not approving him.

Keisler, as I recall. With Keisler you can bet that you would not have received even the minimal re-establishment of brakes and controls on WH contact with the AG’s office. So in the Mukasey v. Keisler choice, I think they were probably better with Mukasy, although it has been just flat out sad to watch him fade into nothing more than a petty mouthpiece for a criminal, advocating for torture and for the continued use of the Dept of Justice to cover up Executive crimes as their raison d’etre, but only the partisan approved crimes and the inner circle crimes. Watching him create an aristocracy free from the constraints of law – created and kept by their owned prosecutors who deny them nothing, and solicit for them horrors. They’ve really used the Dept of Justice and the Dems in Congress to irrevocably and irretrievably weave torture and disappearing men, women and even young children, into the fabric of what this nation is.

And we let them.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oq8iFiMnWbI

]]> By: CasualObserver http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-48891 CasualObserver Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:36:51 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-48891 <p>For sure good for Cheney. I don’t think it would ever hold up in court, but Cheney’s certifiably crazy and might do anything. Those lawyers in the “4th branch” are highly unpredictable.</p> For sure good for Cheney. I don’t think it would ever hold up in court, but Cheney’s certifiably crazy and might do anything. Those lawyers in the “4th branch” are highly unpredictable.

]]> By: CasualObserver http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/comment-page-1/#comment-48887 CasualObserver Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:31:26 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/31/1744/#comment-48887 <p>Yes, I agree with Greenwald.</p> Yes, I agree with Greenwald.

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