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	<title>Comments on: The Gazan Jail-Bust and Middle East Dynamics</title>
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		<title>By: jdmckay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdmckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;As I understand what happened, and I don’t understand much really, the ‘risk’ on these Securities was assessed by the same guys that were making a profit on their sale&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yep… the good o’le tried and true soak -em -’till-every-last-$$-is-gone Enron model.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s&lt;br /&gt;
  good enough for us.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  - Miriam Amanda “Ma” Ferguson (1875-1961),&lt;br /&gt;
    Governor of Texas (1925-1927, 1933-1935)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    From speech arguing against foreign language teaching&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>As I understand what happened, and I don’t understand much really, the ‘risk’ on these Securities was assessed by the same guys that were making a profit on their sale</em>.</p>
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<p>Yep… the good o’le tried and true soak -em -’till-every-last-$$-is-gone Enron model.  </p>
<blockquote><p>“If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s<br />
  good enough for us.” </p>
<p>  &#8211; Miriam Amanda “Ma” Ferguson (1875-1961),<br />
    Governor of Texas (1925-1927, 1933-1935)</p>
<p>    From speech arguing against foreign language teaching</p>
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		<title>By: wcsally</title>
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		<dc:creator>wcsally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Truthfully if it wasn’t so tragic at the same time, it would be funny.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, maybe all the Iraqi Insurgents will break out of Iraq and go over to Iran.  Well, maybe.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthfully if it wasn’t so tragic at the same time, it would be funny.</p>
<p>On the other hand, maybe all the Iraqi Insurgents will break out of Iraq and go over to Iran.  Well, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
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		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;jdmckay - Thanks for that excellent reply!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If I were Europe, I would have considered the Sub-prime Securitization Fraud a real Trust breaker.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I understand what happened, and I don’t understand much really, the ‘risk’ on these Securities was assessed by the same guys that were making a profit on their sale.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The ‘in house’ risk assessors seemingly had every incentive to assess the risk ‘lower’ than it was, because once the tranches went out, the unrecognized risk-liability was laundered out with them - everyone on the front end of the deal pocketed their profits and walked away, while the tranche-buyers (a lot of them in Europe) got left holding the bag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The value of the dollar - under Bush - as the world standard reserve currency, in my humble opinion, has suffered as badly as our International Reputation as Peacebrokers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We invaded Iraq on Lies. We sold dollar-backed securities with unacknowledged time-bomb liabilities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush’s Character Failing is destroying everything about America that depends on Integrity for its Value.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdmckay &#8211; Thanks for that excellent reply!</p>
<p>If I were Europe, I would have considered the Sub-prime Securitization Fraud a real Trust breaker.</p>
<p>As I understand what happened, and I don’t understand much really, the ‘risk’ on these Securities was assessed by the same guys that were making a profit on their sale.</p>
<p>The ‘in house’ risk assessors seemingly had every incentive to assess the risk ‘lower’ than it was, because once the tranches went out, the unrecognized risk-liability was laundered out with them &#8211; everyone on the front end of the deal pocketed their profits and walked away, while the tranche-buyers (a lot of them in Europe) got left holding the bag.</p>
<p>The value of the dollar &#8211; under Bush &#8211; as the world standard reserve currency, in my humble opinion, has suffered as badly as our International Reputation as Peacebrokers.</p>
<p>We invaded Iraq on Lies. We sold dollar-backed securities with unacknowledged time-bomb liabilities.</p>
<p>Bush’s Character Failing is destroying everything about America that depends on Integrity for its Value.</p>
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		<title>By: jdmckay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdmckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Personally, I think the Europeans gave Bush, and the Israelis, too, some Pay-Back for the Sub-prime Securitization Fraud.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think w. European’s “pay back” for Bush in any way limited to “sub prime” mess. On thing about ‘em re: Palestine: they are much better informed than we (US) are, and not just Palestinian situation.  Actually, I think they’re more concerned w/&lt;a href=&quot;http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/01/conspiracy-theo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“rougue” (cough) SG trader’s&lt;/a&gt; $7b “oops” right now than sub-prime stuff.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve been paying close attention to euro $$ journals for some time (I moved a lot of $$ &gt;&gt; Euros a few years ago), and most of it completely unreported here.  But they’ve been bracing for this for some time now… and not just subprime bonds: any # of events, plausible but not inevitable, which could pull US economy into “D” territory.  That’s been my view for a while…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Talking about sub-prime,  I stumbled across &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/26/AR2005102602255_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this &lt;/a&gt;quote from Bernanke in a 10/05 WP article: &lt;/p&gt;
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Ben S. Bernanke does not think the national housing boom is a bubble that is about to burst, he indicated to Congress last week, just a few days before President Bush nominated him to become the next chairman of the Federal Reserve.&lt;br /&gt;
(…)&lt;br /&gt;
“House prices are unlikely to continue rising at current rates,” said Bernanke, who served on the Fed board from 2002 until June. However, he added, “a moderate cooling in the housing market, should one occur, would not be inconsistent with the economy continuing to grow at or near its potential next year.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, good to know he’s gotten right on top of things…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Personally, I think the Europeans gave Bush, and the Israelis, too, some Pay-Back for the Sub-prime Securitization Fraud.</p>
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<p>I don’t think w. European’s “pay back” for Bush in any way limited to “sub prime” mess. On thing about ‘em re: Palestine: they are much better informed than we (US) are, and not just Palestinian situation.  Actually, I think they’re more concerned w/<a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/01/conspiracy-theo.html" rel="nofollow">“rougue” (cough) SG trader’s</a> $7b “oops” right now than sub-prime stuff.  </p>
<p>I’ve been paying close attention to euro $$ journals for some time (I moved a lot of $$ &gt;&gt; Euros a few years ago), and most of it completely unreported here.  But they’ve been bracing for this for some time now… and not just subprime bonds: any # of events, plausible but not inevitable, which could pull US economy into “D” territory.  That’s been my view for a while…</p>
<p>Talking about sub-prime,  I stumbled across <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/26/AR2005102602255_pf.html" rel="nofollow">this </a>quote from Bernanke in a 10/05 WP article: </p>
<blockquote><p>
Ben S. Bernanke does not think the national housing boom is a bubble that is about to burst, he indicated to Congress last week, just a few days before President Bush nominated him to become the next chairman of the Federal Reserve.<br />
(…)<br />
“House prices are unlikely to continue rising at current rates,” said Bernanke, who served on the Fed board from 2002 until June. However, he added, “a moderate cooling in the housing market, should one occur, would not be inconsistent with the economy continuing to grow at or near its potential next year.”</p>
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<p>Well, good to know he’s gotten right on top of things…</p>
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		<title>By: Minnesotachuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnesotachuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The “gift” that keeps on giving.  The confirmations that the damage done by the Bushaviks to US Strategic interests can never be underestimated just keep rolling in, one after another.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “gift” that keeps on giving.  The confirmations that the damage done by the Bushaviks to US Strategic interests can never be underestimated just keep rolling in, one after another.</p>
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		<title>By: phred</title>
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		<dc:creator>phred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps BushCo’s ultimate gift to the ME is a real desire for self-determination all the way around.  Is that a resounding “Go Cheney Yourselves” echoing back to us from the Saudis, Palestinians, Egyptians, and Iranians we hear?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps BushCo’s ultimate gift to the ME is a real desire for self-determination all the way around.  Is that a resounding “Go Cheney Yourselves” echoing back to us from the Saudis, Palestinians, Egyptians, and Iranians we hear?</p>
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		<title>By: Bushie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bushie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, wherever Arbusto dips his wick in the Middle East, he really pisses people off.  He could care less about fuel prices with his investment portfolio and his family wealth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, wherever Arbusto dips his wick in the Middle East, he really pisses people off.  He could care less about fuel prices with his investment portfolio and his family wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fascinating. Particularly considering that Abdullah has been getting closer to Amhedinejad, and that the Saudis told us to fuck off with our hopes for cheaper gas prices.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating. Particularly considering that Abdullah has been getting closer to Amhedinejad, and that the Saudis told us to fuck off with our hopes for cheaper gas prices.</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
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		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;jdmckay - the bulk of the $7.5B in aid for the Palestinians came from Europe - after the Annapolis meeting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Personally, I think the Europeans gave Bush, and the Israelis, too, some Pay-Back for the Sub-prime Securitization Fraud.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, millions and millions of Muslims from around the world will conduct Pilgrimages every year from the Ports via The Gaza Road to the Holy City. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Age Old advice to Kings who wish to Decrease Violence in their Kingdoms has always been: “Give the People Jobs and Opportunity.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdmckay &#8211; the bulk of the $7.5B in aid for the Palestinians came from Europe &#8211; after the Annapolis meeting.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the Europeans gave Bush, and the Israelis, too, some Pay-Back for the Sub-prime Securitization Fraud.</p>
<p>Now, millions and millions of Muslims from around the world will conduct Pilgrimages every year from the Ports via The Gaza Road to the Holy City. </p>
<p>The Age Old advice to Kings who wish to Decrease Violence in their Kingdoms has always been: “Give the People Jobs and Opportunity.”</p>
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		<title>By: Bushie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bushie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent blog about Gaza and Hamas not covered by MSM (again).  I just Googled News “Gaza” and found this article from TheTrumpet.Com (Philadelphia Church of God?) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4734.3002.0.0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thetrumpet.com/inde.....4.3002.0.0&lt;/a&gt; stating Iran’s Ahmadinejad called Mubarak (first time ever).  Both agreed to support Hamas!  GMG,  what next?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent blog about Gaza and Hamas not covered by MSM (again).  I just Googled News “Gaza” and found this article from TheTrumpet.Com (Philadelphia Church of God?) <a href="http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4734.3002.0.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.thetrumpet.com/inde&#8230;..4.3002.0.0</a> stating Iran’s Ahmadinejad called Mubarak (first time ever).  Both agreed to support Hamas!  GMG,  what next?</p>
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