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	<title>Comments on: Two Reminders: Not an Agency and Search Terms</title>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/two-reminders-not-an-agency-and-search-terms/#comment-47118</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They do, indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
That’s another reason that two technologies/approaches are fundamentally altering the ways in which we use, tag, store, retrieve, and link information:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Adobe (Acrobat) Reader,&lt;br /&gt;
2. Open Source software and databases.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I put them in order for a reason; no sense setting up a dB if there’s nothing to put in there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Archives are labor intensive, and generally underfunded.  But invaluable.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do, indeed.<br />
That’s another reason that two technologies/approaches are fundamentally altering the ways in which we use, tag, store, retrieve, and link information:</p>
<p>1. Adobe (Acrobat) Reader,<br />
2. Open Source software and databases.</p>
<p>And I put them in order for a reason; no sense setting up a dB if there’s nothing to put in there.</p>
<p>Archives are labor intensive, and generally underfunded.  But invaluable.</p>
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		<title>By: phred</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/two-reminders-not-an-agency-and-search-terms/#comment-47013</link>
		<dc:creator>phred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agreed, but even in open source you will still have challenges related to hardware (e.g., 8-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit architectures) and evolving software (e.g., new and improved flavors of operating systems (Linux, Debian, Ubuntu), compilers (Fortran, F77, F95), etc.).  Even in a fully open source world, these problems will persist.  I think they are surmountable, but they require careful planning and thought to avoid massive problems down the road.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, but even in open source you will still have challenges related to hardware (e.g., 8-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit architectures) and evolving software (e.g., new and improved flavors of operating systems (Linux, Debian, Ubuntu), compilers (Fortran, F77, F95), etc.).  Even in a fully open source world, these problems will persist.  I think they are surmountable, but they require careful planning and thought to avoid massive problems down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You just explained the rationale for open source versus proprietary standards, with the difference between backup and archival needs.  Proprietary standards are not always backwards compatible; wonder if that ever figured in the migration between Lotus Notes and Exchange…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just explained the rationale for open source versus proprietary standards, with the difference between backup and archival needs.  Proprietary standards are not always backwards compatible; wonder if that ever figured in the migration between Lotus Notes and Exchange…</p>
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		<title>By: phred</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/two-reminders-not-an-agency-and-search-terms/#comment-47006</link>
		<dc:creator>phred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with you in part about the idea that backups and archives don’t need to be much different when the information is in electronic form.  However, the very nature of the long-term storage of information in an archive smacks up against the brick wall of rapidly changing technology, both in terms of hardware and software, when trying to cope with archives.  It is an enormous problem and one we ought not to brush off too casually.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For example, 20 years ago I worked with some researchers who had boxes and boxes of punch cards that they either needed to throw away (hence destroying their archive) or reload onto a computer to then re-save them on magnetic tape (to preserve their archive).  Since then, newer long-term storage technologies have come and gone.  Another example is the effort to preserve early software (particularly games) now that the early hardware is gone.  Do you rewrite the code to run on the new hardware or do you use a software package to emulate the old hardware?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Archiving has lots of technical complications.  This is all largely beside the point in this discussion of what the Executive Branch has been up to, but since massacio was asking about the difference between backups and archives, I just wanted to mention it.  For the most part, a backup is intended to permit the restoration of files to the hardware/software system you are currently using.  An archivist needs to figure out how to maintain records indefinitely, which is why they place so much emphasis on hardware/software independence.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you in part about the idea that backups and archives don’t need to be much different when the information is in electronic form.  However, the very nature of the long-term storage of information in an archive smacks up against the brick wall of rapidly changing technology, both in terms of hardware and software, when trying to cope with archives.  It is an enormous problem and one we ought not to brush off too casually.</p>
<p>For example, 20 years ago I worked with some researchers who had boxes and boxes of punch cards that they either needed to throw away (hence destroying their archive) or reload onto a computer to then re-save them on magnetic tape (to preserve their archive).  Since then, newer long-term storage technologies have come and gone.  Another example is the effort to preserve early software (particularly games) now that the early hardware is gone.  Do you rewrite the code to run on the new hardware or do you use a software package to emulate the old hardware?</p>
<p>Archiving has lots of technical complications.  This is all largely beside the point in this discussion of what the Executive Branch has been up to, but since massacio was asking about the difference between backups and archives, I just wanted to mention it.  For the most part, a backup is intended to permit the restoration of files to the hardware/software system you are currently using.  An archivist needs to figure out how to maintain records indefinitely, which is why they place so much emphasis on hardware/software independence.</p>
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		<title>By: rapt</title>
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		<dc:creator>rapt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For some good insight into why we are seeing this “ineffectual activity”, and more to the point, effective planning and control, take a look at some material from one Svali, a woman who had some (painful?) experience inside the bowels of the PTB for 38 years before escaping to tell the story.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310049.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://portland.indymedia.org/.....0049.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some good insight into why we are seeing this “ineffectual activity”, and more to the point, effective planning and control, take a look at some material from one Svali, a woman who had some (painful?) experience inside the bowels of the PTB for 38 years before escaping to tell the story.</p>
<p><a href="http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310049.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://portland.indymedia.org/&#8230;..0049.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: maryo2</title>
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		<dc:creator>maryo2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bush has 364 days left!  That is less than one year and is probably the best news of the day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush has 364 days left!  That is less than one year and is probably the best news of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: BayStateLibrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>BayStateLibrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice catch…&lt;br /&gt;
Wonderful news&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice catch…<br />
Wonderful news</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://harpers.org/archive/2008/01/hbc-90002219&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Emails that Dick Cheney Deleted&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;Harper’s Magazine &lt;em&gt;by Scott Horton &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
January 22, 2008 &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…The missing Cheney emails fit a pattern that suggests intentional rather than accidental destruction. They all occur on days on which, considering contemporaneous press reports, the Vice President or his staff members were in the news and would likely have been communicating on the subjects relating to the press coverage. The most persistent themes are the outing of Valerie Plame and Cheney’s secret dealings with a group of oil and gas executives who were directly influencing national energy policy. &lt;strong&gt;The Empty Wheel has some excellent analysis of these points&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://harpers.org/archive/2008/01/hbc-90002219" rel="nofollow">The Emails that Dick Cheney Deleted<br />
</a>Harper’s Magazine <em>by Scott Horton </em><br />
January 22, 2008 </p>
<p>…The missing Cheney emails fit a pattern that suggests intentional rather than accidental destruction. They all occur on days on which, considering contemporaneous press reports, the Vice President or his staff members were in the news and would likely have been communicating on the subjects relating to the press coverage. The most persistent themes are the outing of Valerie Plame and Cheney’s secret dealings with a group of oil and gas executives who were directly influencing national energy policy. <strong>The Empty Wheel has some excellent analysis of these points</strong>. </p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From your mouth the Glenn Greenwald’s ears:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.salon.com/~r/salon/greenwald/~3/221653320/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Consequences for ignoring congressional subpoenas: None&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From your mouth the Glenn Greenwald’s ears:<br />
<a href="http://feeds.salon.com/~r/salon/greenwald/~3/221653320/index.html" rel="nofollow">Consequences for ignoring congressional subpoenas: None</a></p>
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		<title>By: Palli</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/22/two-reminders-not-an-agency-and-search-terms/#comment-46992</link>
		<dc:creator>Palli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sadly, the upshot to all this Capitol Hill inactivity, or ineffectual activity, to defend our constitutional laws and require commonsense methods of open government just makes me believe that this is the way most of our elected representatives want government to be conducted.  The slow progress toward true American democracy has been halted.  Uncorrected illegal behavior becomes acceptable for others to practice also.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, the upshot to all this Capitol Hill inactivity, or ineffectual activity, to defend our constitutional laws and require commonsense methods of open government just makes me believe that this is the way most of our elected representatives want government to be conducted.  The slow progress toward true American democracy has been halted.  Uncorrected illegal behavior becomes acceptable for others to practice also.</p>
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