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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/15/the-supplicant-to-kings-and-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-44992</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/asia_index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Either the Japanese market is taking a long lunch, or it’s hit a circuit-breaker; hasn’t moved down any further in over an hour. But anyone out there, look at that Hang Seng (Hong Kong) index plummet!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In an article about the sovereign wealth funds, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/01/15/sovereign_wealth_funds/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andrew Leonard&lt;/a&gt; sizes up Brush’s economic legacy, quite accurately imo:&lt;/p&gt;
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The magnitude of the disaster, from a free market apologist point of view, can hardly be overestimated. By abjectly failing to compensate or cushion the “losers” from globalization — whether by boosting safety nets, improving healthcare, or investing significant resources in education and training — the Bush administration guaranteed a growing groundswell of political opposition to global trade. And by failing to properly oversee financial markets, it provided an opportunity for foreign governments that may not share “American” values to become significant players in the heart of the global financial system. Talk about your legacies! The Bush administration not only may have crippled the Republican Party for a generation, but it also might have broken the free market! Whoops!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/asia_index.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!</i></a></p>
<p>Either the Japanese market is taking a long lunch, or it’s hit a circuit-breaker; hasn’t moved down any further in over an hour. But anyone out there, look at that Hang Seng (Hong Kong) index plummet!</p>
<p>In an article about the sovereign wealth funds, <a href="http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/01/15/sovereign_wealth_funds/index.html" rel="nofollow">Andrew Leonard</a> sizes up Brush’s economic legacy, quite accurately imo:</p>
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The magnitude of the disaster, from a free market apologist point of view, can hardly be overestimated. By abjectly failing to compensate or cushion the “losers” from globalization — whether by boosting safety nets, improving healthcare, or investing significant resources in education and training — the Bush administration guaranteed a growing groundswell of political opposition to global trade. And by failing to properly oversee financial markets, it provided an opportunity for foreign governments that may not share “American” values to become significant players in the heart of the global financial system. Talk about your legacies! The Bush administration not only may have crippled the Republican Party for a generation, but it also might have broken the free market! Whoops!
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
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		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with this. Too much concentration of wealth leads to speculation. Since the rich have their hands on the levers of government, the losses are often shifted to taxpayers. If the Fed lowers interest rates, look what that will do to people who save in banks and money market funds and treasuries. It will mean they get less for their money, while the interests of stock investors and wall street greedheads are protected.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this. Too much concentration of wealth leads to speculation. Since the rich have their hands on the levers of government, the losses are often shifted to taxpayers. If the Fed lowers interest rates, look what that will do to people who save in banks and money market funds and treasuries. It will mean they get less for their money, while the interests of stock investors and wall street greedheads are protected.</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/15/the-supplicant-to-kings-and-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-44964</link>
		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The really bad news about Citigroup is this:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;China Development Bank’s plan to inject US$2 billion into troubled US giant Cititbank has been rejected by the State Council, the cabinet of Chinese government.&lt;br /&gt;
…&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CDB recently received US$20 billion from Central Huijin Investment Company (CHI), a subsidiary of China Investment Corporation (CIC), China’s sovereign wealth fund, to strengthen its capital base. Analysts said that then extending the US$2 billion bloodline to Citibank would be foolhardy since it might well be interpreted by western markets as channeling sovereign wealth funds to investment under the pretext of commercial banking.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinastakes.com/story.aspx?id=153&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link.&lt;/a&gt; The Chinese are concerned that they not be seen to be using their sovereign wealth fund as a policy instrument, something that doesn’t seem to bother the other countries that are busy buying up our financial institutions. What the heck else are they going to buy? Our land? What’s left of our manufacturing base?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The really bad news about Citigroup is this:
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<blockquote><p>China Development Bank’s plan to inject US$2 billion into troubled US giant Cititbank has been rejected by the State Council, the cabinet of Chinese government.<br />
…</p></blockquote>
<p>CDB recently received US$20 billion from Central Huijin Investment Company (CHI), a subsidiary of China Investment Corporation (CIC), China’s sovereign wealth fund, to strengthen its capital base. Analysts said that then extending the US$2 billion bloodline to Citibank would be foolhardy since it might well be interpreted by western markets as channeling sovereign wealth funds to investment under the pretext of commercial banking.</p>
<p>   <a href="http://www.chinastakes.com/story.aspx?id=153" rel="nofollow">Link.</a> The Chinese are concerned that they not be seen to be using their sovereign wealth fund as a policy instrument, something that doesn’t seem to bother the other countries that are busy buying up our financial institutions. What the heck else are they going to buy? Our land? What’s left of our manufacturing base?</p>
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		<title>By: kspena</title>
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		<dc:creator>kspena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All of this must be particularly galling to dick.  If his main goal is, as Greg Palast and others have written, to break the grip of OPEC so he (cheney/USA) is positioned to ‘control’ the production, pricing and distribution of oil, he must be steaming at this epic moment…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this must be particularly galling to dick.  If his main goal is, as Greg Palast and others have written, to break the grip of OPEC so he (cheney/USA) is positioned to ‘control’ the production, pricing and distribution of oil, he must be steaming at this epic moment…</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Remember that time when fifteen of your repressed subjects hijacked and crashed a bunch of our planes and killed a bunch of our people? THAT really sucked. How does this sword-thingie work?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yea, that was awesome.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Remember that time when fifteen of your repressed subjects hijacked and crashed a bunch of our planes and killed a bunch of our people? THAT really sucked. How does this sword-thingie work?</em></p>
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<p>Yea, that was awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: merkwurdiglieber</title>
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		<dc:creator>merkwurdiglieber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just hope Junya keeps talking off the cuff, he is really a mess to&lt;br /&gt;
  watch these days… not to worry about him leaving the US after his&lt;br /&gt;
  term, hell, he probably won’t even leave Texas. Too bad, there is a&lt;br /&gt;
  fine old court house in Nuremberg he should be a guest in.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope Junya keeps talking off the cuff, he is really a mess to<br />
  watch these days… not to worry about him leaving the US after his<br />
  term, hell, he probably won’t even leave Texas. Too bad, there is a<br />
  fine old court house in Nuremberg he should be a guest in.</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/15/the-supplicant-to-kings-and-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-44875</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Once again the Chinese come off as comparatively astute by &lt;a href=&quot;http://ml-implode.com/viewnews/2008-01-14_ChinamayblockCitigroupsale.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;declining to get in on this one&lt;/a&gt;; there’s a lot of buzz that this is just the first of many rounds for Citigroup.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or maybe it just reinforces Hugh’s point about who really cracks the whip in the U.S.-Saudi relationship.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again the Chinese come off as comparatively astute by <a href="http://ml-implode.com/viewnews/2008-01-14_ChinamayblockCitigroupsale.html" rel="nofollow">declining to get in on this one</a>; there’s a lot of buzz that this is just the first of many rounds for Citigroup.</p>
<p>Or maybe it just reinforces Hugh’s point about who really cracks the whip in the U.S.-Saudi relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankProbst</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankProbst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thought experiment:  Can you imagine Hillary Clinton (or any other Dem, for that matter) running around the middle east waving a saber and yukking it up with a bunch of Saudi kings and princes?  (”Remember that time when fifteen of your repressed subjects hijacked and crashed a bunch of our planes and killed a bunch of our people?  THAT really sucked.  How does this sword-thingie work?”)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What happened to spreading democracy?  It’s an oppressive monarchy, for crying out loud.  It’s the kind of government that this country was born to overthrow.  At best, Bush looks like a big doofus and a hypocrite.  Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think that even ardent Bush lovers are going to appreciate this.  And no one’s going to accept the but-we-really-need-the-money defense, either.  If that line doesn’t work for prostitutes and drug dealers, it sure as hell shouldn’t work for the President of the United States.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought experiment:  Can you imagine Hillary Clinton (or any other Dem, for that matter) running around the middle east waving a saber and yukking it up with a bunch of Saudi kings and princes?  (”Remember that time when fifteen of your repressed subjects hijacked and crashed a bunch of our planes and killed a bunch of our people?  THAT really sucked.  How does this sword-thingie work?”)</p>
<p>What happened to spreading democracy?  It’s an oppressive monarchy, for crying out loud.  It’s the kind of government that this country was born to overthrow.  At best, Bush looks like a big doofus and a hypocrite.  Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think that even ardent Bush lovers are going to appreciate this.  And no one’s going to accept the but-we-really-need-the-money defense, either.  If that line doesn’t work for prostitutes and drug dealers, it sure as hell shouldn’t work for the President of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oddly enough I was doing some calculating on this last night.  Basically, I took the generally accepted base price of oil at the beginning of 2007 of $40-45/bbl.  I added on to this an instability premium of $10-15/bbl.  Most of the world’s oil is produced in unstable areas and the instability premium reflects this even when no particular political, military, or weather event is happening.  This gives a price of $50-60/bbl.  Next I looked at changes in the dollar from 2001 to 2008.  The change relative to the euro is 37%, the Canadian dollar around 33%.  The change with regard to the yen and yuan have been less.  I decided somewhat arbitrarily to assign a currency adjustment of 35%.  This gave a range of $67.50 to $81/bbl.  This is a good ballpark range.  I think we can safely ascribe anything above $81/bbl to this new kind of speculation that can move a market and sustain prices.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While peak oil and supply and demand concerns have sometimes been put forward to account for the differential between my $81/bbl price and the current price, I don’t think this is the case.  For one thing, the way prices change indicates to me that there is a lot of singularly uninformed money in the oil markets.  One day the price may change according to a supply report but the next day the market may well react to something else although the underlying fundamental of supply from the previous day remains unchanged.  This chasing rumors instead of paying attention to fundamentals has turned the oil market into a vast crap shoot.  You have a lot of big money playing the market without really understanding it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough I was doing some calculating on this last night.  Basically, I took the generally accepted base price of oil at the beginning of 2007 of $40-45/bbl.  I added on to this an instability premium of $10-15/bbl.  Most of the world’s oil is produced in unstable areas and the instability premium reflects this even when no particular political, military, or weather event is happening.  This gives a price of $50-60/bbl.  Next I looked at changes in the dollar from 2001 to 2008.  The change relative to the euro is 37%, the Canadian dollar around 33%.  The change with regard to the yen and yuan have been less.  I decided somewhat arbitrarily to assign a currency adjustment of 35%.  This gave a range of $67.50 to $81/bbl.  This is a good ballpark range.  I think we can safely ascribe anything above $81/bbl to this new kind of speculation that can move a market and sustain prices.</p>
<p>While peak oil and supply and demand concerns have sometimes been put forward to account for the differential between my $81/bbl price and the current price, I don’t think this is the case.  For one thing, the way prices change indicates to me that there is a lot of singularly uninformed money in the oil markets.  One day the price may change according to a supply report but the next day the market may well react to something else although the underlying fundamental of supply from the previous day remains unchanged.  This chasing rumors instead of paying attention to fundamentals has turned the oil market into a vast crap shoot.  You have a lot of big money playing the market without really understanding it.</p>
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		<title>By: TheraP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheraP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;please, please… let it be so!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please, please… let it be so!</p>
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