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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43091</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Reagan legacy was a grade-B movie script of anti-civil rights, an impoverished mental panorama underpinned by many of the bright and craftiest officeholders in the current administration, but so discredited their tactics that one of their key characteristics has been to hide information.  In the preparation for Roberts nomination hearings which saw PFAW and several advocacy groups requesting to view papers of his authorship at the Reagan Library, Bush administration lawyers, like the BrooksBrothers rebels of 2000, in 2005 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/10/AR2006051002232.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dashed to Simi Valley, and somehow key Roberts documents from his service in the Reagan administration disappeared in the Reagan library reading room&lt;/a&gt;; According to WaPost a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thememoryhole.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;national archive IG report&lt;/a&gt; of the incident was published, but a fast search failed to locate that IG report; more later on that.  This is not a legacy, it is a technique for controlling government by closing the curtains on the sunlight which makes democracy possible; according to the article, Dana PigMisl Perino says she is sure there was no wrongdoing in the Reagan library visit by the lawyers from the administration.  We heard this in many nominations during the Bush years; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/7/27/172211/202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some Roberts’ solicitor general employment writings were also withheld by the Bush administration&lt;/a&gt;.  I think Obama and Edwards and some others see that, but the Republican crowd of candidates are grasping at a collapsed coalition.  For his part, Roberts after swearing in, visited the Reagan Library, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simivalleyacorn.com/news/2006/0310/Community/011.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;made a joke about the Reagan library archivist’s production of documents&lt;/a&gt; that congress actually received, jibed rhetorically, ‘Thanks a lot’ to the archivist for finding some.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Reagan legacy was a grade-B movie script of anti-civil rights, an impoverished mental panorama underpinned by many of the bright and craftiest officeholders in the current administration, but so discredited their tactics that one of their key characteristics has been to hide information.  In the preparation for Roberts nomination hearings which saw PFAW and several advocacy groups requesting to view papers of his authorship at the Reagan Library, Bush administration lawyers, like the BrooksBrothers rebels of 2000, in 2005 <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/10/AR2006051002232.html" rel="nofollow">dashed to Simi Valley, and somehow key Roberts documents from his service in the Reagan administration disappeared in the Reagan library reading room</a>; According to WaPost a <a href="http://www.thememoryhole.org/" rel="nofollow">national archive IG report</a> of the incident was published, but a fast search failed to locate that IG report; more later on that.  This is not a legacy, it is a technique for controlling government by closing the curtains on the sunlight which makes democracy possible; according to the article, Dana PigMisl Perino says she is sure there was no wrongdoing in the Reagan library visit by the lawyers from the administration.  We heard this in many nominations during the Bush years; <a href="http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/7/27/172211/202" rel="nofollow">some Roberts’ solicitor general employment writings were also withheld by the Bush administration</a>.  I think Obama and Edwards and some others see that, but the Republican crowd of candidates are grasping at a collapsed coalition.  For his part, Roberts after swearing in, visited the Reagan Library, and <a href="http://www.simivalleyacorn.com/news/2006/0310/Community/011.html" rel="nofollow">made a joke about the Reagan library archivist’s production of documents</a> that congress actually received, jibed rhetorically, ‘Thanks a lot’ to the archivist for finding some.</p>
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		<title>By: Evolute</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43079</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the useful post EW.  An excellent analysis of the failed Republican era, ideologically planned or otherwise. I’ll add this by starting with a familiar quote from one of our favorites, Mark Twain, “A great, great deal has been said about the weather, but very little has ever been done.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only now it’s not just the weather it’s the climate. At least once a week bizarre and extreme weather besieges some corner of our earth. And it’s not just the climate, there’s the dehumanizing corporate culture - I got mine, see ya I’m going off-shore. We find ourselves in the greatest (potential) country in the history of the planet and arguably our strongest industry is the machinery of death, destruction and control. There is the insanity that nuclear weapons even exist. The population is currently expanding at the rate of 1 billion people in just over a decade. …The weather report is in, it’s inescapable and it’s a nightmare, we are racing exponentially not to an unsustainable, but to a unsurvivable future. And if we don’t do something now, later may be too late.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that realization is the birth, the zygote of this tsunami. Its not just the Republican ineptness to lead and govern, the Democrats (for the most part) have been enablers. The experience argument falls dead flat - it doesn’t matter that you have slowed or slightly veered the ship of state - its still going over the goddamned cliff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And for those who find no substance behind Obama’s rhetoric - I say you are beyond &lt;strike&gt;help&lt;/strike&gt; hope. Remember, he wrote his autobiography BEFORE he ran for president.  If in fact the votes are counted in November he will have from February 6 to plan. He and we will be more than ready. He has made it his life’s work and there is nobody better positioned to redirect the arc of history. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a side note: this site in particular among progressive others, and the net in general will be critical in not letting history be forgotten or rewritten. Besides the Florida theatrics and 5-4 theft by SCOTUS we got Bush43 by letting the Clinton Democrats sweep the crimes of team Reagan/Bush off the table.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the useful post EW.  An excellent analysis of the failed Republican era, ideologically planned or otherwise. I’ll add this by starting with a familiar quote from one of our favorites, Mark Twain, “A great, great deal has been said about the weather, but very little has ever been done.”</p>
<p>Only now it’s not just the weather it’s the climate. At least once a week bizarre and extreme weather besieges some corner of our earth. And it’s not just the climate, there’s the dehumanizing corporate culture &#8211; I got mine, see ya I’m going off-shore. We find ourselves in the greatest (potential) country in the history of the planet and arguably our strongest industry is the machinery of death, destruction and control. There is the insanity that nuclear weapons even exist. The population is currently expanding at the rate of 1 billion people in just over a decade. …The weather report is in, it’s inescapable and it’s a nightmare, we are racing exponentially not to an unsustainable, but to a unsurvivable future. And if we don’t do something now, later may be too late.</p>
<p>I think that realization is the birth, the zygote of this tsunami. Its not just the Republican ineptness to lead and govern, the Democrats (for the most part) have been enablers. The experience argument falls dead flat &#8211; it doesn’t matter that you have slowed or slightly veered the ship of state &#8211; its still going over the goddamned cliff.</p>
<p>And for those who find no substance behind Obama’s rhetoric &#8211; I say you are beyond <strike>help</strike> hope. Remember, he wrote his autobiography BEFORE he ran for president.  If in fact the votes are counted in November he will have from February 6 to plan. He and we will be more than ready. He has made it his life’s work and there is nobody better positioned to redirect the arc of history. </p>
<p>As a side note: this site in particular among progressive others, and the net in general will be critical in not letting history be forgotten or rewritten. Besides the Florida theatrics and 5-4 theft by SCOTUS we got Bush43 by letting the Clinton Democrats sweep the crimes of team Reagan/Bush off the table.</p>
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		<title>By: melior</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43074</link>
		<dc:creator>melior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What better evidence for the total and complete collapse of the Rove Doctrine than today’s incident in the Strait of Hormuz? Some itchy Iranian sailors basically handed Cheney a made-to-order Tonkin Gulf Incident, and Chimpy just fumbled it like the dog who caught the car he was chasing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What better evidence for the total and complete collapse of the Rove Doctrine than today’s incident in the Strait of Hormuz? Some itchy Iranian sailors basically handed Cheney a made-to-order Tonkin Gulf Incident, and Chimpy just fumbled it like the dog who caught the car he was chasing.</p>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43055</link>
		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Edwards is probably actually the most ‘transformative’ of the major candidates, and he’s more of a fighter than Obama ever will be.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree about Edwards.  The thing I worry about with an Obama presidency is I don’t see any evidence he’s equipped with the shrewdness and toughness in dealing with a ruthless and corrupt GOP.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Edwards is probably actually the most ‘transformative’ of the major candidates, and he’s more of a fighter than Obama ever will be.”</p>
<p>I agree about Edwards.  The thing I worry about with an Obama presidency is I don’t see any evidence he’s equipped with the shrewdness and toughness in dealing with a ruthless and corrupt GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43048</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Actually, regarding SOME areas (net neutrality, executive power), Obama has taken a more explicit, forward stand than Edwards; on others (particularly the economy) Edwards has taken the more forward stand. These are not caricatures, here, either Edwards or Obama. It does our side no good to treat them as simply different caricatures than the trad med is treating them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fair enough; the Obama part of my comment was a little confused.  I mixed up the popular emotion idea with the candidate positions, without mentioning the frame I was thinking in.  Which was: voter perceptions today,  based on the candidates’ highlighted signals &lt;em&gt;very lately&lt;/em&gt;, i.e. in 2008 — which I think is about as long as the great majority of voters have been paying attention.  And I haven’t heard much explicit from Obama about restoration since the voting’s started.  Lots of generalities that could be &lt;em&gt;interpreted&lt;/em&gt; that way… &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…But then again, that’s my major Obama concern at this point, and one that I’ve seen a number of smart people mention: the large speeches generate strong positive emotions, but for the most part are pretty nonspecific; and therefore any specific policy details get discussed instead in smaller venues; however, because the Obama campaign is whip-smart, and because it’s using demographic targeting consultants (cf. Vanity Fair article), I’m concerned that every voter might be mainly getting told just those parts of the detail story they’re most likely to be receptive to.  Not the whole story.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; hope you’re right, and maybe it’s just the last 8 years talking, but “trust me” (and by that I mean O, not you EW) is just not working for me any more.  Post-Enlightenment judgement, it’s not just for R’s any more.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually, regarding SOME areas (net neutrality, executive power), Obama has taken a more explicit, forward stand than Edwards; on others (particularly the economy) Edwards has taken the more forward stand. These are not caricatures, here, either Edwards or Obama. It does our side no good to treat them as simply different caricatures than the trad med is treating them.</p>
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<p>Fair enough; the Obama part of my comment was a little confused.  I mixed up the popular emotion idea with the candidate positions, without mentioning the frame I was thinking in.  Which was: voter perceptions today,  based on the candidates’ highlighted signals <em>very lately</em>, i.e. in 2008 — which I think is about as long as the great majority of voters have been paying attention.  And I haven’t heard much explicit from Obama about restoration since the voting’s started.  Lots of generalities that could be <em>interpreted</em> that way… </p>
<p>…But then again, that’s my major Obama concern at this point, and one that I’ve seen a number of smart people mention: the large speeches generate strong positive emotions, but for the most part are pretty nonspecific; and therefore any specific policy details get discussed instead in smaller venues; however, because the Obama campaign is whip-smart, and because it’s using demographic targeting consultants (cf. Vanity Fair article), I’m concerned that every voter might be mainly getting told just those parts of the detail story they’re most likely to be receptive to.  Not the whole story.</p>
<p>I do <em>so</em> hope you’re right, and maybe it’s just the last 8 years talking, but “trust me” (and by that I mean O, not you EW) is just not working for me any more.  Post-Enlightenment judgement, it’s not just for R’s any more.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43047</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s nice to see some energetic support in the Democratic frontrunners’ campaigns.  And it is wierd to see the implosion wrapped in tortcha Republicans engineered for their exit.  I would imagine &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004960.php#more&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NH will avoid primary day telephone bank jamming managed from the Republican National Committee in 2008 as they were reported to have done in 2002&lt;/a&gt;; evidently, JConyers remains concerned about the extent of RNC oversight of that caper though one smallfry received a sentence, as Paul Kiel TMMM wrote in December 20, 2007 which included excerpts from a book written by one of the Republican strategists involved.  In more recent news, the Bushadministration’s USFish+WildlifeService has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/08/MN60UAQFJ.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;scuttled the movement toward declaring polarBears an inevitable victim of GlobalWarming&lt;/a&gt;, as arcticIce is slated to disappear within the lifetime of some current online persons; footnote, the article cites old data forecasting 2050 as the end of the icecap, but this years AGU conference last month contained a much sooner date than was predicted in the literature even a year ago; see also famous &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photographer of globalWarming in environment&lt;/a&gt; site.  The Republican candidates continue to have a leader fairly resolutely disdainful of the legislature; in the matter of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-spitzer8jan08,0,5871931.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nonpocketveto pocketveto fiat&lt;/a&gt;, which congress likely will address in late January 2008.  I think the Republicans will remain a less than half party; there is a strong current of impoverished thinking in their recent history.  The new multiplicity of Democratic party voices is promising, especially the candidates whose strategies seem working best now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s nice to see some energetic support in the Democratic frontrunners’ campaigns.  And it is wierd to see the implosion wrapped in tortcha Republicans engineered for their exit.  I would imagine <a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004960.php#more" rel="nofollow">NH will avoid primary day telephone bank jamming managed from the Republican National Committee in 2008 as they were reported to have done in 2002</a>; evidently, JConyers remains concerned about the extent of RNC oversight of that caper though one smallfry received a sentence, as Paul Kiel TMMM wrote in December 20, 2007 which included excerpts from a book written by one of the Republican strategists involved.  In more recent news, the Bushadministration’s USFish+WildlifeService has <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/08/MN60UAQFJ.DTL" rel="nofollow">scuttled the movement toward declaring polarBears an inevitable victim of GlobalWarming</a>, as arcticIce is slated to disappear within the lifetime of some current online persons; footnote, the article cites old data forecasting 2050 as the end of the icecap, but this years AGU conference last month contained a much sooner date than was predicted in the literature even a year ago; see also famous <a href="http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/index.html" rel="nofollow">photographer of globalWarming in environment</a> site.  The Republican candidates continue to have a leader fairly resolutely disdainful of the legislature; in the matter of the <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-spitzer8jan08,0,5871931.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail" rel="nofollow">nonpocketveto pocketveto fiat</a>, which congress likely will address in late January 2008.  I think the Republicans will remain a less than half party; there is a strong current of impoverished thinking in their recent history.  The new multiplicity of Democratic party voices is promising, especially the candidates whose strategies seem working best now.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43046</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this is fun and all, but all the administration has with this;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Do the back-ups contain the e-mails said to be missing?” Facciola asked.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;is answer “no”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is fun and all, but all the administration has with this;</p>
<blockquote><p>“Do the back-ups contain the e-mails said to be missing?” Facciola asked.</p>
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<p>is answer “no”</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43045</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/08/judge-demands-answers-on-missing-e-mails-from-white-house/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fitz fix for everyone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Judge demands answers on White House’s missing e-mails. A federal judge today ordered the White House “to reveal whether copies of possibly millions of missing e-mails are stored on computer backup tapes.” The AP reports: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Facciola gave the White House five business days to report whether computer backup tapes contain e-mails written between 2003 and 2005.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The time period covers the Valerie Plame affair in which at least three presidential aides were found to have leaked Plame’s CIA identity to the news media.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Do the back-ups contain the e-mails said to be missing?” Facciola asked.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a four-page order, Facciola said he needs to know “if the missing e-mails are not on those back-ups.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Facciola noted the importance of acting quickly since e-mails that might be retrievable from individual computer workstations in the White House “are increasingly likely to be deleted or overwritten with the passage of time.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CREW has more on the judge’s order.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/08/judge-demands-answers-on-missing-e-mails-from-white-house/" rel="nofollow">fitz fix for everyone</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Judge demands answers on White House’s missing e-mails. A federal judge today ordered the White House “to reveal whether copies of possibly millions of missing e-mails are stored on computer backup tapes.” The AP reports: </p>
<p>Facciola gave the White House five business days to report whether computer backup tapes contain e-mails written between 2003 and 2005.</p>
<p>The time period covers the Valerie Plame affair in which at least three presidential aides were found to have leaked Plame’s CIA identity to the news media.</p>
<p>“Do the back-ups contain the e-mails said to be missing?” Facciola asked.</p>
<p>In a four-page order, Facciola said he needs to know “if the missing e-mails are not on those back-ups.”</p>
<p>Facciola noted the importance of acting quickly since e-mails that might be retrievable from individual computer workstations in the White House “are increasingly likely to be deleted or overwritten with the passage of time.”</p>
<p>CREW has more on the judge’s order.
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		<title>By: TheraP</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43044</link>
		<dc:creator>TheraP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;yup&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;seems to me these guys are &lt;em&gt;running&lt;/em&gt;…. um, out of ideas!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup</p>
<p>seems to me these guys are <em>running</em>…. um, out of ideas!</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/08/tip-your-hat/#comment-43043</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ahem.  Think of the kind of stool a doctor might take a sample of….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem.  Think of the kind of stool a doctor might take a sample of….</p>
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