Comments on: Get Caught in a Sting, Get Thrown Out of the USA, Get Gagged about It http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:35:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42272 bmaz Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:33:47 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42272 <p>Why doesn’t the judge issue an order to hold him then? I would think a district court judge could monkeywrench this deportation junk if they were so inclined.</p> Why doesn’t the judge issue an order to hold him then? I would think a district court judge could monkeywrench this deportation junk if they were so inclined.

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42268 emptywheel Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:01:03 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42268 <p>There’s a discussion of just that in the last newspaper article I linked to–the Miami Herald one that quotes his wife. I sort of suspect the way the govt is treating the gag is as much about hiding this reality of PATRIOT (don’t want another aspect of PATRIOT declared unconstitutional) as anything else.</p> <p>Though the judge is pretty pissed that Lemorin may be deported before he can be a witness at the next trial; both trials (immigration and terrorist) start next week.</p> There’s a discussion of just that in the last newspaper article I linked to–the Miami Herald one that quotes his wife. I sort of suspect the way the govt is treating the gag is as much about hiding this reality of PATRIOT (don’t want another aspect of PATRIOT declared unconstitutional) as anything else.

Though the judge is pretty pissed that Lemorin may be deported before he can be a witness at the next trial; both trials (immigration and terrorist) start next week.

]]> By: JamesJoyce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42260 JamesJoyce Sat, 05 Jan 2008 12:58:19 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42260 <p>“Lyglenson Lemorin, was acquitted of all charges.”</p> <p>“Apparently, the government has put Lemorin into deportation proceedings and has asserted in public documents, submitted after the gag order, that “Lemorin has liaility in uncharged criminal conduct.” That claim presumably makes Lemorin subject to a PATRIOT Act provision that provides the government broad leeway in deporting those with terrorist ties.” </p> <p>“Lemorin is a legal US resident who grew up in the US, is married, and has two kids.”</p> <p>Arrested, Charged, Tried and Aquitted of all charges. Now has a gag order extending to family while “aquitted” is being deported. No double jeopardy here. A new law, the Patriot Act now trumps the constitution? This is exactly what the “scumbag nazis” did!</p> “Lyglenson Lemorin, was acquitted of all charges.”

“Apparently, the government has put Lemorin into deportation proceedings and has asserted in public documents, submitted after the gag order, that “Lemorin has liaility in uncharged criminal conduct.” That claim presumably makes Lemorin subject to a PATRIOT Act provision that provides the government broad leeway in deporting those with terrorist ties.”

“Lemorin is a legal US resident who grew up in the US, is married, and has two kids.”

Arrested, Charged, Tried and Aquitted of all charges. Now has a gag order extending to family while “aquitted” is being deported. No double jeopardy here. A new law, the Patriot Act now trumps the constitution? This is exactly what the “scumbag nazis” did!

]]> By: freepatriot http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42259 freepatriot Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:37:13 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42259 <p>you realize that 67% of the people gotta agree before we amend the constitution, right ???</p> <p>so you think this is a BAD idea ???</p> <p>70% of the country agrees with us</p> <p>george bush sucks</p> <p>they got polls that prove this</p> <p>been doing it for years</p> <p>you could look it up</p> you realize that 67% of the people gotta agree before we amend the constitution, right ???

so you think this is a BAD idea ???

70% of the country agrees with us

george bush sucks

they got polls that prove this

been doing it for years

you could look it up

]]> By: Hmmm http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42190 Hmmm Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:42:21 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42190 <p>Uhrm, do we <em>really</em> want to be opening the Constitution up for rewrites these days, with these characters still running around? Careful what ya wish for…</p> Uhrm, do we really want to be opening the Constitution up for rewrites these days, with these characters still running around? Careful what ya wish for…

]]> By: freepatriot http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42171 freepatriot Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:14:16 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42171 <p>the correct title is the “WORST PRESNIT EVER” Amendment</p> <p>do it for the children</p> the correct title is the “WORST PRESNIT EVER” Amendment

do it for the children

]]> By: freepatriot http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42170 freepatriot Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:12:38 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42170 <p>I like em short and sweet</p> <p>plus, when you’re dealing with a Constitutional Amendment, it’s kinda hard for somebody to say that it’s “UnConstitutional”</p> <p>the Constitution can’t be Unconstitutional</p> <p>and even more added bonuses, it would make it really hard for the repuglitards to survive, or defend george bush, if we put a repudiation of george bush in the Constitution</p> <p>we might all be dead georgie, but we’re leaving a BIG CLUE for history to use when making the judgment </p> <p>WORST PRESNIT EVER</p> <p>by Constitutional decree</p> I like em short and sweet

plus, when you’re dealing with a Constitutional Amendment, it’s kinda hard for somebody to say that it’s “UnConstitutional”

the Constitution can’t be Unconstitutional

and even more added bonuses, it would make it really hard for the repuglitards to survive, or defend george bush, if we put a repudiation of george bush in the Constitution

we might all be dead georgie, but we’re leaving a BIG CLUE for history to use when making the judgment

WORST PRESNIT EVER

by Constitutional decree

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42168 bmaz Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:08:17 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42168 <p>I would like to co-sponsor my honorable colleague’s piece of legislation, and urge one and all to vote in favor of the “George Bush Was Totally Wrong On Fucking Everything Act”.</p> I would like to co-sponsor my honorable colleague’s piece of legislation, and urge one and all to vote in favor of the “George Bush Was Totally Wrong On Fucking Everything Act”.

]]> By: Hmmm http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42164 Hmmm Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:58:57 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42164 <p>Hysterical! Though I guess I was thinking more along the model of the good ol’ USA Patriot Act, which was evidently all bundled up and ready to go — in its multi-hundred page glory — well <em>in advance of</em> 2001-09-11.</p> <p>Be Prepared, as it were.</p> Hysterical! Though I guess I was thinking more along the model of the good ol’ USA Patriot Act, which was evidently all bundled up and ready to go — in its multi-hundred page glory — well in advance of 2001-09-11.

Be Prepared, as it were.

]]> By: freepatriot http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-42162 freepatriot Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:50:07 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/04/get-caught-in-a-sting-get-thrown-out-of-the-usa-get-gagged-about-it/#comment-42162 <p>something like this ???</p> <blockquote><p>Amendment 28 to the Constitution of the United States:</p> <p>all official acts of president george w bush, from January 20th, 2001, to January 20, 2009, are hereby repealed</p> <p>all immunities and pardons issued by george bush between the above specified dates are hearby declared NULL AND VOID, and NO COURT shall recognize any immunity or pardon issued by george w bush</p> <p>all appointments to any office of trust or profit that were made by george w bush between January 20th, 2001, to January 20, 2009, are hereby declared null and void. no person shall be a Judge, or continue to serve as a government official if that person was appointed or promoted by george w bush</p> <p>all legislation that was passed by Congress during the term of george w bush, and signed by george w bush, is hereby declared null and void, and shall be considered UNCONSTITUTIONAL by every Court and Government Agency</p> <p>this amendment shall be a Constitutional repudiation of all of the acts of george w bush</p></blockquote> <p><em>it might need a little tweeking (BMAZ, that’s your cue) but that ought a do it</em></p> something like this ???

Amendment 28 to the Constitution of the United States:

all official acts of president george w bush, from January 20th, 2001, to January 20, 2009, are hereby repealed

all immunities and pardons issued by george bush between the above specified dates are hearby declared NULL AND VOID, and NO COURT shall recognize any immunity or pardon issued by george w bush

all appointments to any office of trust or profit that were made by george w bush between January 20th, 2001, to January 20, 2009, are hereby declared null and void. no person shall be a Judge, or continue to serve as a government official if that person was appointed or promoted by george w bush

all legislation that was passed by Congress during the term of george w bush, and signed by george w bush, is hereby declared null and void, and shall be considered UNCONSTITUTIONAL by every Court and Government Agency

this amendment shall be a Constitutional repudiation of all of the acts of george w bush

it might need a little tweeking (BMAZ, that’s your cue) but that ought a do it

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