Comments on: Why Is Dana So Touchy?

By: prostratedragon

prostratedragon — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:04:02 +0000

Is this 2 big ones for Dana or 3, I’ve lost count. But during the height of the NIE flap I was wondering whether she’d see out the next 30 days. Even tools can suffer metal fatigue, and the WH folks are pretty heavy-handed.

By: Skilly

Skilly — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:25:07 +0000

Ok,

One last link to add to the time frame.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/backgro.....alton.html

this article discusses the culture of abuse for all prisoners. date is May 2005.

By: Skilly

Skilly — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:41:37 +0000

Oops, it did not take the link.

try this:

http://www.scvhistory.com/scvh.....meline.htm

By: Skilly

Skilly — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:41:00 +0000

Here is at least one time line on the prison court martial time lines.

By: bmaz

bmaz — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:35:07 +0000

Excellent points.

By: Skilly

Skilly — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:15:03 +0000

I wonder, Why isn’t the press asking what else was destroyed around that time frame. What other records existence were deemed by Rodriquez to put operatives at risk?
Secondly, Remember how the military said that the abu garib mis-treatments were isolated, unrelated, “criminal” events carried out by rogue soldiers? Some of those soldeirs were court martialed. Doesn’t this just add further fuel to their defense that they were carrying out policy. Shouldn’t Rodriquez really be saying that he did it (destroy evidence) b/c he knew that the Administration had already demonstrated by allowing the abu gharib court martials to proceed, that they would not protect the individuals who carry out the ordered, approved and “patriotic” acts of torture done in the name of the U.S.?? It would be interesting to see in the time line of events, how the court martials related to the the destruction of evidence.

By: rapt

rapt — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:58:02 +0000

Jackie ends with, “Bush/Cheney/Co don’t want anyone to look down that Rabbit-hole.”

You are exactly right IMO, to point out the grizzly crux of the issue here. It explains why those tapes had to be destroyed, crime or not, and why bush/cheneyCo will go to ANY length to prevent their being seen/heard.

It could be, following the same line, that a segment of CIA is in the process of pulling aside the curtain to force the issue; that is, to block all the hidey-holes so far available to the perps. I can’t imagine what a horrendous disaster that would be to the lizards if it is successful.

By: looseheadprop

looseheadprop — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:42:39 +0000

THANK YOU MArcy for that transcript.

You know, it reads like some spoof transcript.

I enjoyed it VERY much

By: jackie

jackie — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:12:24 +0000

The thing that is hiding under all this torture/torture tapes etc is the people were/are being questioned/tortured, because of their involvement’ in the WTC bombings. So if the info given under torture, is not the ‘truth’, then the ‘official’ version of what went down on Sept 11 is shown to be Bullshit and Bush/Cheney/Co don’t want anyone to look down that Rabbit-hole.

By: earlofhuntingdon

earlofhuntingdon — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:15:23 +0000

This is, mistakenly, I believe, a manufactured controversy from the same minds that gave us Ms. Perino in the first place. She’s a she’s, she’s purdy, she’s not Tony or Scotty, and her speech and memory are only slightly better than Shrub’s (so that the difference won’t be so dramatic).

Perino’s, “They’re attacking my credibility!” ought to ring hollow from the mouth of any White House press officer. It’s as inevitable as Bush claiming that tax cuts pay for themselves (they don’t and won’t). It’s also irrelevant, which is why the White House hopes that the Village will make it the lede. They did, dutifully, including Jim Lehrer’s increasingly unreliable PBS NewsHour. (Gwen Ifill’s “interview” of Mitch McConnell yesterday was pure press conference; nary a tough question or challenged characterization in sight.)

Ms. Perino is merely greasing her pig, hoping that Helen Thomas and the blogs won’t be able to catch it. Thankfully, too many people are on to her and the White House’s game; they’ll just figuratively shoot her pig instead of trying to catch hold of its greased sides.

But why is the real lede relevant? Why care about the CIA destroying a few of presumably thousands of taped interrogations? Because it’s in the bottom row of this president’s house of cards. Led by Cheney, Bush has built his administration on secret spying, secret torture, and routine deception that is a millimeter this side of lying and perjury - from the false, misleading names of legislation to foreign wars of choice, to the perversion and obstruction of justice. Why grab this particular story? When you can’t grab the lion’s teeth, hold the tail until help comes along. And shout for it.