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		<title>By: MrWhy</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/18/henry-gets-impatient-2/comment-page-1/#comment-39285</link>
		<dc:creator>MrWhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’d like to elaborate on wavpeac’s comment a little bit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who in their right mind would willingly accept a nomination to serve in this administration at this time?&lt;br /&gt;
Who in their right mind would want to head the DoJ at this time?&lt;br /&gt;
Would any and all AG nominees see their role to include acting as a firewall for the administration?&lt;br /&gt;
Would Mukasey ever get another opportunity to serve his country in a comparable role?&lt;br /&gt;
What inducements could this administration offer to anyone credible to convince them to accept the nomination?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hmmm. wavpeac is right, I just don’t see it.&lt;br /&gt;
Serve your country? Or serve in the Bush cabinet?&lt;br /&gt;
They don’t seem compatible somehow, do they?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d like to elaborate on wavpeac’s comment a little bit.</p>
<p>Who in their right mind would willingly accept a nomination to serve in this administration at this time?<br />
Who in their right mind would want to head the DoJ at this time?<br />
Would any and all AG nominees see their role to include acting as a firewall for the administration?<br />
Would Mukasey ever get another opportunity to serve his country in a comparable role?<br />
What inducements could this administration offer to anyone credible to convince them to accept the nomination?</p>
<p>Hmmm. wavpeac is right, I just don’t see it.<br />
Serve your country? Or serve in the Bush cabinet?<br />
They don’t seem compatible somehow, do they?</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Skilly, I’m not authorized to speak on behalf of anyone, but FWIW…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it a ‘&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Fitz&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; crush’, and is it a ‘girl thing’?&lt;br /&gt;
Mostly not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think back 16 months ago — NO ONE seemed to be standing up for the rule of law.  (Well, no one except Valerie Plame, Sy Hersh, Russ Feingold, MoveOn, and a few retired Generals who’d begun to speak out.)&lt;br /&gt;
And then along came a pleasant-looking prosecutor who seemed to do his job, stay out of the limelight, and share credit with his team.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;O.M.G!  How refreshing!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some of us were blinking and rubbing our eyes in disbelief.&lt;br /&gt;
So the shorthand expression for this sense of shock and hope became: ‘&lt;strong&gt;Fitz&lt;/strong&gt;!’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I forget who first put it up at FDL, but it was good for a chuckle.&lt;br /&gt;
So it became an FDL meme.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;‘Fitz!’ started as a tribute to one man.  But the meaning evolved and became more complex as events unfolded to expose mind-boggling corruption.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jane and Christy’s posts were tutorials about the justice system, as well as the extend of the corruption in national politics, campaigns, and government.  As readers were able to ask questions and learn — from Christy, Jane, and each other, readers became more sophisticated.  The scope of their questions began to refernce DoJ attys assigned to the Plame investigation, as well as FBI investigators on the case.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As people became more knowledgeable, the expression “Fitz!” evolved into a shorthand expression of support for government employees who honored the Rule of Law, whether they worked for DoJ, or the FBI, agencies, or the military.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No doubt there’s still some ‘girlie’ admiration.&lt;br /&gt;
But at least from my observations over time, the core meaning of the ‘&lt;strong&gt;Fitz&lt;/strong&gt;‘ meme is, ‘&lt;em&gt;We won’t sit on our hands in silence while the law is subverted by criminals!’&lt;/em&gt;  But it’s evolved into a salute to anonymous, unsung federal employees.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At least, that’s my synopsis.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skilly, I’m not authorized to speak on behalf of anyone, but FWIW…</p>
<p>Is it a ‘<strong><em>Fitz</em></strong> crush’, and is it a ‘girl thing’?<br />
Mostly not.</p>
<p>Think back 16 months ago — NO ONE seemed to be standing up for the rule of law.  (Well, no one except Valerie Plame, Sy Hersh, Russ Feingold, MoveOn, and a few retired Generals who’d begun to speak out.)<br />
And then along came a pleasant-looking prosecutor who seemed to do his job, stay out of the limelight, and share credit with his team.<br />
<em>O.M.G!  How refreshing!</em></p>
<p>Some of us were blinking and rubbing our eyes in disbelief.<br />
So the shorthand expression for this sense of shock and hope became: ‘<strong>Fitz</strong>!’</p>
<p>I forget who first put it up at FDL, but it was good for a chuckle.<br />
So it became an FDL meme.</p>
<p>‘Fitz!’ started as a tribute to one man.  But the meaning evolved and became more complex as events unfolded to expose mind-boggling corruption.</p>
<p>Jane and Christy’s posts were tutorials about the justice system, as well as the extend of the corruption in national politics, campaigns, and government.  As readers were able to ask questions and learn — from Christy, Jane, and each other, readers became more sophisticated.  The scope of their questions began to refernce DoJ attys assigned to the Plame investigation, as well as FBI investigators on the case.  </p>
<p>As people became more knowledgeable, the expression “Fitz!” evolved into a shorthand expression of support for government employees who honored the Rule of Law, whether they worked for DoJ, or the FBI, agencies, or the military.  </p>
<p>No doubt there’s still some ‘girlie’ admiration.<br />
But at least from my observations over time, the core meaning of the ‘<strong>Fitz</strong>‘ meme is, ‘<em>We won’t sit on our hands in silence while the law is subverted by criminals!’</em>  But it’s evolved into a salute to anonymous, unsung federal employees.</p>
<p>At least, that’s my synopsis.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Most excellent Mary!  Soon as they get the writers all paid up and back to work, I think you ought to option Blacksite Achers out to Comedy Central as a satire/spoof.  Hey, they bought L’il Bush………&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most excellent Mary!  Soon as they get the writers all paid up and back to work, I think you ought to option Blacksite Achers out to Comedy Central as a satire/spoof.  Hey, they bought L’il Bush………</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mukasey and Czar Czar Goper.  Kind of a remake of the old series under a new name, eh?  Blacksite Achers? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Blacksite, Achers is the place to be&lt;br /&gt;
There, you’ll get your very own detainee&lt;br /&gt;
Presidential orders to remove their hide&lt;br /&gt;
Take their children and disappear their bride&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re my detainee&lt;br /&gt;
Let’s break that other knee,&lt;br /&gt;
Blacksite Achers here we come.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*sigh*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Waxman really needs to cast his net further afield than videotapes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3239372.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.independent.co.uk/.....239372.ece&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Binyam Mohammed, described in that case, was the other “source” for the Padilla arrest warrant and is the Name That Can Not Be Mentioned by Comey press conf on Padilla.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/01/comey.padilla.transcript/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06.....index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By accounts, the “corroboration” that Binyam provided can in conjuction with having his genitalia repeatedly razored.  Per Ghost Plane, when the CIA did their typical “strip the Arab man and then have a woman photograph every crevice on him” even the woman they produced to take the pictures was shocked.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OTOH, I guess after being so very proud of the coerced Higazy confession prior to coming to DC, Comey couldn’t help but be impressed at how heavily Padilla, being tortured, Binyam - also being tortured, and Zubaydah - uh, also being tortured, seemed to so magically corroborate each other.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;COMEY: No, it’s heavily corroborated. And that’s what I meant by the scope and candor and clarity of this document. This bears reading, because what we’ve done is put in there all the interlocking corroboration, as well as where things don’t agree.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve never quite seen candor used in the way Comey uses it in the Padilla press conference.  I need to go watch the Princess Bride again for the appropriate reference.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mukasey and Czar Czar Goper.  Kind of a remake of the old series under a new name, eh?  Blacksite Achers? </p>
<p><em>Blacksite, Achers is the place to be<br />
There, you’ll get your very own detainee<br />
Presidential orders to remove their hide<br />
Take their children and disappear their bride</em></p>
<p>You’re my detainee<br />
Let’s break that other knee,<br />
Blacksite Achers here we come.</p>
<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>Waxman really needs to cast his net further afield than videotapes</p>
<p><a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3239372.ece" rel="nofollow">http://news.independent.co.uk/&#8230;..239372.ece</a></p>
<p>Binyam Mohammed, described in that case, was the other “source” for the Padilla arrest warrant and is the Name That Can Not Be Mentioned by Comey press conf on Padilla.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/01/comey.padilla.transcript/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06&#8230;..index.html</a></p>
<p>By accounts, the “corroboration” that Binyam provided can in conjuction with having his genitalia repeatedly razored.  Per Ghost Plane, when the CIA did their typical “strip the Arab man and then have a woman photograph every crevice on him” even the woman they produced to take the pictures was shocked.  </p>
<p>OTOH, I guess after being so very proud of the coerced Higazy confession prior to coming to DC, Comey couldn’t help but be impressed at how heavily Padilla, being tortured, Binyam &#8211; also being tortured, and Zubaydah &#8211; uh, also being tortured, seemed to so magically corroborate each other.</p>
<blockquote><p>COMEY: No, it’s heavily corroborated. And that’s what I meant by the scope and candor and clarity of this document. This bears reading, because what we’ve done is put in there all the interlocking corroboration, as well as where things don’t agree.</p>
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<p>I’ve never quite seen candor used in the way Comey uses it in the Padilla press conference.  I need to go watch the Princess Bride again for the appropriate reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Skilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is way OT, but, for the life of me, I can’t quite get the Fitz adoration thing here. I have been a regular reader for about 1.6 years. The obsession predates my readings.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it an unadulterated crush? Is emptywheel, Fitz’s sister or something? (kidding) Is this a girl thing? what?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK,</p>
<p>Here is way OT, but, for the life of me, I can’t quite get the Fitz adoration thing here. I have been a regular reader for about 1.6 years. The obsession predates my readings.</p>
<p>Is it an unadulterated crush? Is emptywheel, Fitz’s sister or something? (kidding) Is this a girl thing? what?</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Reid considers extending Protect America Act for one month to buy more time&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And what manner of fuckery might this be?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Reid considers extending Protect America Act for one month to buy more time</p>
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<p>And what manner of fuckery might this be?</p>
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		<title>By: wavpeac</title>
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		<dc:creator>wavpeac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am tellin’ ya, I can’t figure out why Mukasey or any other schmuck would want the job. I mean seriously, anybody walking in to the position with so many outstanding investigations would be knowingly walking into a hornets nest. Do you have to take the appt? I just don’t get it.  You would have to be an absolute moron, or power hungry egotistical fool to believe that you could stave off the coming downfall of the bush administration. Who would want to look like an obstructionist from a historical perspective. I mean most of the nation “sees” what we see. So these smart people like Mukasey can’t see it? What the hell does he get out of putting his reputation and name on the line? History? I am a criminal hear me roar?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t get it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess that’s why I come here. But it’s just astounds me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am tellin’ ya, I can’t figure out why Mukasey or any other schmuck would want the job. I mean seriously, anybody walking in to the position with so many outstanding investigations would be knowingly walking into a hornets nest. Do you have to take the appt? I just don’t get it.  You would have to be an absolute moron, or power hungry egotistical fool to believe that you could stave off the coming downfall of the bush administration. Who would want to look like an obstructionist from a historical perspective. I mean most of the nation “sees” what we see. So these smart people like Mukasey can’t see it? What the hell does he get out of putting his reputation and name on the line? History? I am a criminal hear me roar?</p>
<p>I don’t get it. </p>
<p>I guess that’s why I come here. But it’s just astounds me.</p>
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		<title>By: obsessed</title>
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		<dc:creator>obsessed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&gt;I think we’re in the practice of leaving the ZEDs and FITZ!es to the &gt;firedoglake side.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes! Please! The EW site has traditionally had the highest ratio of content to filler in its comments sections (in spite of my posts). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d sure like to read Dick’s “reportedly contentious” Fitz interview in its entirety.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I think we’re in the practice of leaving the ZEDs and FITZ!es to the &gt;firedoglake side.</p>
<p>Yes! Please! The EW site has traditionally had the highest ratio of content to filler in its comments sections (in spite of my posts). </p>
<p>I’d sure like to read Dick’s “reportedly contentious” Fitz interview in its entirety.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueStateRedHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueStateRedHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can we (the new FDL conglomerate) set up a Defender of the Constitution award? Not just a one-shot opinion poll, but one with&lt;br /&gt;
* Nominations (e.g., Dodd; Kucinich)&lt;br /&gt;
* Basis for nomination (e.g., Dodd’s filibuster of FISA; Kucinich’s Resolution of Impeachment)– kinda like articles of impeachment in reverse?&lt;br /&gt;
* Voting held after the Articles for Nomination have all been fleshed out&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Republicans and independents would be eligible– if they’ve earned it.&lt;br /&gt;
Also prosecutors– e.g. Patrick Fitzgerald&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Should organizations be eligible? e.g., ACLU, CREW&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It would be especially cool if this could be a coalition project of FDL, DailyKos, MoveOn.org, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am game for a citizen action, Bob. If you write to EW, she will send your email on to me. Any other takers, do the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the mean time, try thanking Sen. Coburn who has done what no one in the HR and their so-called ethics committee did not or would not do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edward Teller, our Gentleman from Alaska, are you there?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can we (the new FDL conglomerate) set up a Defender of the Constitution award? Not just a one-shot opinion poll, but one with<br />
* Nominations (e.g., Dodd; Kucinich)<br />
* Basis for nomination (e.g., Dodd’s filibuster of FISA; Kucinich’s Resolution of Impeachment)– kinda like articles of impeachment in reverse?<br />
* Voting held after the Articles for Nomination have all been fleshed out</p>
<p>Republicans and independents would be eligible– if they’ve earned it.<br />
Also prosecutors– e.g. Patrick Fitzgerald</p>
<p>Should organizations be eligible? e.g., ACLU, CREW</p>
<p>It would be especially cool if this could be a coalition project of FDL, DailyKos, MoveOn.org, etc.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>I am game for a citizen action, Bob. If you write to EW, she will send your email on to me. Any other takers, do the same.</p>
<p>In the mean time, try thanking Sen. Coburn who has done what no one in the HR and their so-called ethics committee did not or would not do.</p>
<p>Edward Teller, our Gentleman from Alaska, are you there?</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mukasey is now facing the first moment of truth…do what you said you were gonna do; resign if the Admin. strongarms you…or face Waxman’s music…or refuse to cooperate with Congress; or hand over the loot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ouch.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mukasey is now facing the first moment of truth…do what you said you were gonna do; resign if the Admin. strongarms you…or face Waxman’s music…or refuse to cooperate with Congress; or hand over the loot.</p>
<p>Ouch.</p>
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