Comments on: Senator Dodd Tries to Save the Constitution

By: mjpottebaum

mjpottebaum — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:36:07 +0000

The right wing Fear Mongering has a history! Truman’s Secretary of State, Dean Achison in his memoir “Present at the Creation” notes that after World War I came the Palmer Raids, after World War II came Patrick J. Hurley, to originate McCarthism on November 27, 1945 charging that his (China) embassy staff and the State Department betrayed him. In the same book. Mr. Hurley’s Demagogy during WWII in present day Iran were cleverly characterized as “Messianic Globaloney” just like Bush and Cheney!

By: phred

phred — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:53:40 +0000

I thought Wyden was clear in his opposition to telco immunity and emphatic in his insistence that the Full Senate be given access to all relevant documents. I didn’t get a sense of wishy washy-ness from him at all in his speech. That said, I don’t know what he has said in the past, but at this point, he seems on board with Dodd.

Boxer was quite good too, but no one could hold a candle to Teddy today — he was great!

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:49:36 +0000

It seems to boil down to the bottom line that only Dodd, Kennedy, and Feingold have a clear understanding that the Constitution is at stake, and the integrity to fight for it. Widen and Whitehouse have been very ambivalent.

You’re watching the meltdown of the rest of the Democrats into Bush lackeys play out on your TV.

You’re watching the meltdown of the rest of the Democrats into Bush lackeys play out on your TV.

By: PetePierce

PetePierce — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:39:17 +0000

It seems to boil down to the bottom line that only Dodd, Kennedy, and Feingold have a clear understanding that the Constitution is at stake, and the integrity to fight for it.

You’re watching the meltdown of the rest of the Democrats into Bush lackeys play out on your TV.

By: ThadBeier

ThadBeier — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:03:04 +0000

Well, it is true to some extent that the telecoms can’t speak in their own defense. I believe they are barred from producing the subpeonas or whatever other documentation the Bush so-called Administration gave them to do their domestic spying.

By: Leen

Leen — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:40:55 +0000

If there is no “retroactive immunity” for telecom companies before 9/11. If these methods were used in the collection of the interception of conversations with anyone involved with the Rosen/Weissman/Espionage investigation and trial could that evidence be dropped due to the lack of “retroactive immunity”

By: BooRadley

BooRadley — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:32:37 +0000

Telcos and their suppliers are the 21st century version of the ~~robber baron~~ railroads. They “carry” almost everything and as much as I can figure, everyone else in silicon valley, Google, MS, Oracle, …. is scared of them.

By: Leen

Leen — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:31:07 +0000

Whitehouse “telecoms put in an impossible predicament” “they can not say one word in their own defense”

Is this true?

By: behindthefall

behindthefall — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:30:09 +0000

Is site traffic VERY heavy on The FDL Group today? Things don’t go beyond the home pages at all easily.

By: Leen

Leen — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:29:07 +0000

OMG Warmonger Feinstein up. The turncoat who voted for Mukasey.

Investigate Feinstein for conflict of interest and war profits. She makes me feel ill.