Comments on: The Venezuela Bust http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Phoenix Woman http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38339 Phoenix Woman Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:42:30 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38339 <p>Over at MR, my co-blogger Charles noticed the involvement of Kenneth Wainstein in <a href="http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/mexico-december-15th/" rel="nofollow">this weird-ass Venezuela setup</a> and in the <a href="http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/the-mukasey-payoff/" rel="nofollow">shredding “investigation”</a>.</p> Over at MR, my co-blogger Charles noticed the involvement of Kenneth Wainstein in this weird-ass Venezuela setup and in the shredding “investigation”.

]]> By: JohnLopresti http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38336 JohnLopresti Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:29:48 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38336 <p>Saw an interesting comparison yesterday of economies in Argentina, Spain, Venezuela, and US folded into an article about the infamous standoff at the Chile summit a few weeks ago, worded in veiled vernacular terms at some <a href="http://www.buenafuente.com/content/view/6132/7/" rel="nofollow">length</a>, though it is wider in scope than the suitcase o cash complaint. One interesting site that writes in similarly purposefully indirect terms about the reporting scene in Venezuela published an article this week reflective of another aspect of what HuCh might attempt to accomplish with the petroeuros at his <a href="http://www.sipiapa.com/espanol/pressreleases/chronologicaldetail.cfm?PressReleaseID=2044" rel="nofollow">disposition</a>. The latter site, though often posting in two languages, significantly left the linked piece exclusively in Spanish; the host entity has membership throughout the region, so, couches its observation in the most acceptable terms.</p> Saw an interesting comparison yesterday of economies in Argentina, Spain, Venezuela, and US folded into an article about the infamous standoff at the Chile summit a few weeks ago, worded in veiled vernacular terms at some length, though it is wider in scope than the suitcase o cash complaint. One interesting site that writes in similarly purposefully indirect terms about the reporting scene in Venezuela published an article this week reflective of another aspect of what HuCh might attempt to accomplish with the petroeuros at his disposition. The latter site, though often posting in two languages, significantly left the linked piece exclusively in Spanish; the host entity has membership throughout the region, so, couches its observation in the most acceptable terms.

]]> By: prostratedragon http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38224 prostratedragon Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:53:20 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38224 <p>When I heard some of Sra. Fernandez de Kirchner’s remarks on the radio this PM I had the distinct impression she thinks she’s being given the Woman in Power shivaree by el caudicito up here.</p> <p>I have also the distinct impression that she’s right.</p> When I heard some of Sra. Fernandez de Kirchner’s remarks on the radio this PM I had the distinct impression she thinks she’s being given the Woman in Power shivaree by el caudicito up here.

I have also the distinct impression that she’s right.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38220 bmaz Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:09:00 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38220 <p>Here’s a good one for you BSL: My Diamondbacks just <a href="http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/1214dbackstrade-CR.html" rel="nofollow">traded for Bill Buckner</a>. Ok, this one is called Billy Buckner, and is a pitcher, but still……</p> Here’s a good one for you BSL: My Diamondbacks just traded for Bill Buckner. Ok, this one is called Billy Buckner, and is a pitcher, but still……

]]> By: BayStateLibrul http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38209 BayStateLibrul Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:34:16 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38209 <p>I do love Joe Torre, and Jeter is a complete ball player and<br /> terrific role model for the kids… but Bucky Bleeping Dent, ah, he is<br /> different animal…<br /> I haven’t been the same since I took my grandkiddo, Christian to the<br /> 2004 parade… This year’s parade was fine and warmer, but not the same…</p> I do love Joe Torre, and Jeter is a complete ball player and
terrific role model for the kids… but Bucky Bleeping Dent, ah, he is
different animal…
I haven’t been the same since I took my grandkiddo, Christian to the
2004 parade… This year’s parade was fine and warmer, but not the same…

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38205 bmaz Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:17:23 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38205 <p>Actually, I am kind of with you on those thoughts. This will bring a smile to your face; I was there in 2001, at game 7 of the last World Series the Evil Empire was in, when the Diamondbacks beat them on the bloopiest freaking single you have ever seen. I look at it merely from a legal perspective, and in that regard, I thought the report was remarkably thin and lame on substantive evidence. MacNamee may be enough, but not without appending better support and corroboration for his statements.</p> Actually, I am kind of with you on those thoughts. This will bring a smile to your face; I was there in 2001, at game 7 of the last World Series the Evil Empire was in, when the Diamondbacks beat them on the bloopiest freaking single you have ever seen. I look at it merely from a legal perspective, and in that regard, I thought the report was remarkably thin and lame on substantive evidence. MacNamee may be enough, but not without appending better support and corroboration for his statements.

]]> By: BayStateLibrul http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38202 BayStateLibrul Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:07:00 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38202 <p>Coinky-dink…<br /> Ah, that good liberal from Maine, is above reproach, like Muskie?<br /> The Mitchell Report is amazing in that he had NO subpoena power…<br /> In my opinion, Roger is a lying sack of shit, and his lawyer, the Hendricks<br /> brothers, well… they seem kind of Rove-like…<br /> Take my words with a grain of salt, I am prejudiced against the Evil<br /> Empire and Texas…<br /> I can’t help myself…</p> Coinky-dink…
Ah, that good liberal from Maine, is above reproach, like Muskie?
The Mitchell Report is amazing in that he had NO subpoena power…
In my opinion, Roger is a lying sack of shit, and his lawyer, the Hendricks
brothers, well… they seem kind of Rove-like…
Take my words with a grain of salt, I am prejudiced against the Evil
Empire and Texas…
I can’t help myself…

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38197 emptywheel Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:55:15 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38197 <p>It’s unclear because later it just says he’s trying to protect his family. It sounds like Antonini is close enough with these guys that he might have elicited more information from them, and it sounds like the first meeting mentioned in the complaint was taped. So I still don’t get why Antonini cooperated.</p> <p>It also says they’re trying to flip these four to go higher.</p> It’s unclear because later it just says he’s trying to protect his family. It sounds like Antonini is close enough with these guys that he might have elicited more information from them, and it sounds like the first meeting mentioned in the complaint was taped. So I still don’t get why Antonini cooperated.

It also says they’re trying to flip these four to go higher.

]]> By: JohnLopresti http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38188 JohnLopresti Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:23:40 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38188 <p>The ecotourism press reflects on a wider scandal: < <Estados Unidos congeló ya 7 millones de dólares que tenían depositados en este país, en una cuenta del American Express Bank, entidad que a su vez tiempo atrás -y con la misma Fiscalía- acordó pagar multas por 55 millones de dólares a cambio de evitar una eventual condena por lavado de dinero.>> i.e., frozen bank account, moneyLaundromat from wo link above. I think part of the concern might be initiatives like the failed plebiscite on letting HuCh appoint governor surrogates, though this NYT article only <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/world/americas/04venezuela.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&en=e5163010fa2bb68f&ex=1354424400" rel="nofollow">covers</a> part of the local scene’s drama enacted last week when voters spoke against the leadership’s plan. Reminded me of a Putin partisan result in recalcitrant provincial elections two of which recorded a popular vote above 99% and approaching 102% in one instance in support of the dominant party’s slate of candidates recently.</p> The ecotourism press reflects on a wider scandal: < <Estados Unidos congeló ya 7 millones de dólares que tenían depositados en este país, en una cuenta del American Express Bank, entidad que a su vez tiempo atrás -y con la misma Fiscalía- acordó pagar multas por 55 millones de dólares a cambio de evitar una eventual condena por lavado de dinero.>> i.e., frozen bank account, moneyLaundromat from wo link above. I think part of the concern might be initiatives like the failed plebiscite on letting HuCh appoint governor surrogates, though this NYT article only covers part of the local scene’s drama enacted last week when voters spoke against the leadership’s plan. Reminded me of a Putin partisan result in recalcitrant provincial elections two of which recorded a popular vote above 99% and approaching 102% in one instance in support of the dominant party’s slate of candidates recently.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38187 bmaz Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:22:25 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/the-venezuela-bust/#comment-38187 <p>Sure is funny that the Red Sawx skate effectively unscathed, but the “Report” is absolutely littered with Yankees and former Yankees that were around when they were pounding the Sawx in the late 90s and early 2000s. Oh, wait, George Mitchell is an owner, and on the board, of the Red Sawx. I’m sure that is just a coincidence. That guy MacNamee better have something more than a couple of piddly cancelled checks from Clemens. I am no Yanks fan in the least, but I thought the “Report” was pretty thin on the evidence. The discussion and suggestions sections were decent; but I have real problems with the way they went about gratuitously naming people with thin to no credible evidence. If Clemens decides to fight (not that he has that kind of personality or anything), and he hires good trial type counsel, MacNamee better pucker up if he doesn’t have better stuff than we have seen so far. I am no fan, but I would represent Clemens in a heartbeat on this. Of course, I would charge a LOT of money for the pleasure…</p> Sure is funny that the Red Sawx skate effectively unscathed, but the “Report” is absolutely littered with Yankees and former Yankees that were around when they were pounding the Sawx in the late 90s and early 2000s. Oh, wait, George Mitchell is an owner, and on the board, of the Red Sawx. I’m sure that is just a coincidence. That guy MacNamee better have something more than a couple of piddly cancelled checks from Clemens. I am no Yanks fan in the least, but I thought the “Report” was pretty thin on the evidence. The discussion and suggestions sections were decent; but I have real problems with the way they went about gratuitously naming people with thin to no credible evidence. If Clemens decides to fight (not that he has that kind of personality or anything), and he hires good trial type counsel, MacNamee better pucker up if he doesn’t have better stuff than we have seen so far. I am no fan, but I would represent Clemens in a heartbeat on this. Of course, I would charge a LOT of money for the pleasure…

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