Comments on: Really Bad Gitmo Propaganda http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: bobschacht http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38176 bobschacht Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:17:13 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38176 <p>“Stuff like this always reminds me of my discovery, as a college professor, that most Americans have the crudest understanding of how language works. I can’t decide how to judge the trade-off. It means our government rarely gets away with propaganda. But it also reflects a widespread inability to think critically.”</p> <p>You were a college professor, too?! Amazing (NOT).</p> <p>Anyway, do they teach critical thinking in high school any more? After all, what with “No Child Left Behind,” teaching to the test, and the super-emphasis on Math and rudimentary English skills, is there any time left?</p> <p>There doesn’t seem to be much time for teaching critical thinking skills at the Freshman and Sophomore levels in college anymore, either. It strikes me that this is another Fascist tactic to turn us all into sheep, so that we can be more easily manipulated.</p> <p>Critical thinking skills should be taught in Middle School AND High School. Along with Civics. But aren’t budgets for those things getting cut?</p> <p>Bob in HI</p> “Stuff like this always reminds me of my discovery, as a college professor, that most Americans have the crudest understanding of how language works. I can’t decide how to judge the trade-off. It means our government rarely gets away with propaganda. But it also reflects a widespread inability to think critically.”

You were a college professor, too?! Amazing (NOT).

Anyway, do they teach critical thinking in high school any more? After all, what with “No Child Left Behind,” teaching to the test, and the super-emphasis on Math and rudimentary English skills, is there any time left?

There doesn’t seem to be much time for teaching critical thinking skills at the Freshman and Sophomore levels in college anymore, either. It strikes me that this is another Fascist tactic to turn us all into sheep, so that we can be more easily manipulated.

Critical thinking skills should be taught in Middle School AND High School. Along with Civics. But aren’t budgets for those things getting cut?

Bob in HI

]]> By: Rayne http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38089 Rayne Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:53:55 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38089 <p>EW — I know you’ve likely seen a lengthy email/post about Reid’s actions on FISA bill; am I alone in thinking Harry was blackmailed with the farm bill to pass the SIC version?</p> EW — I know you’ve likely seen a lengthy email/post about Reid’s actions on FISA bill; am I alone in thinking Harry was blackmailed with the farm bill to pass the SIC version?

]]> By: Rayne http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38086 Rayne Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:52:15 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38086 <p>Pickings for recruiters must have been very slim for some time now, eh?</p> <p>LooHoo (8) — exactly. BTW, nice work in Portrero; people in my state are watching closely as they need good examples of how to kick ass and take names.</p> Pickings for recruiters must have been very slim for some time now, eh?

LooHoo (8) — exactly. BTW, nice work in Portrero; people in my state are watching closely as they need good examples of how to kick ass and take names.

]]> By: brendanx http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38085 brendanx Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:50:51 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38085 <p>Remember Greenwald and Col. Boylan? He, too, had an idiosyncratic “style”.</p> Remember Greenwald and Col. Boylan? He, too, had an idiosyncratic “style”.

]]> By: brendanx http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38084 brendanx Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:49:24 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38084 <p>“In a criminal complaint, U.S. prosecutors accused four men arrested Wednesday in Miami — three Venezuelans and a Uruguayan — of involvement in a conspiracy to cover up an illegal campaign contribution on behalf of the Venezuelan government.”</p> <p>That’s illegal in the U.S.? I understand the political intent in prosecuting it but that’s surprising to this non-lawyer.</p> “In a criminal complaint, U.S. prosecutors accused four men arrested Wednesday in Miami — three Venezuelans and a Uruguayan — of involvement in a conspiracy to cover up an illegal campaign contribution on behalf of the Venezuelan government.”

That’s illegal in the U.S.? I understand the political intent in prosecuting it but that’s surprising to this non-lawyer.

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38083 emptywheel Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:40:11 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38083 <p>Sign of a really poor choice to put in charge of your propaganda: 1) only marginally literate in the target propaganda literate, 2) severe problems with sexuality that mark all his writings as disturbed.</p> <p>Your government tax dollars at work.</p> Sign of a really poor choice to put in charge of your propaganda: 1) only marginally literate in the target propaganda literate, 2) severe problems with sexuality that mark all his writings as disturbed.

Your government tax dollars at work.

]]> By: Neil http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38080 Neil Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:34:16 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38080 <blockquote><p>Read what you will… (another Gitmo edit of wiki) <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Camp_Echo&diff=prev&oldid=148279854" rel="nofollow">link</a></p></blockquote>

Read what you will… (another Gitmo edit of wiki) link

]]> By: Neil http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38078 Neil Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:28:42 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38078 <p>Here’s an wiki entry about Dinkelsbuhl, Germany the army “Mass Communication Specialist/Webmaster” just <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dinkelsb%C3%BChl&diff=prev&oldid=173314919" rel="nofollow">HAD to change</a> last month on November 24, 2007 from:</p> <blockquote><p>There are also buildings in the far late [[Roman architecture|Roman]] architectural style.</p></blockquote> <p>to</p> <blockquote><p>There are also buildings in the far late [[Roman architecture|Roman]] architectural style.</p> <p>Dinkelsbuehl is also known for there great of Homosexual activities which oocur during the daytime on open streets.</p></blockquote> <p>Note the use of the word “there” which you think he might have caught in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dinkelsb%C3%BChl&diff=prev&oldid=173315091" rel="nofollow">next edit…</a></p> <blockquote><p>Dinkelsbuehl is also known for there great <strong>amount </strong>of Homosexual activities which oocur during the daytime on open streets. </p></blockquote> <p>Nope! Ok enough about there, their and they’re. </p> <p>In the unit my friend Sharon S. commanded, Army JAG Corps IT worldwide, this guy would have been shipped off to Juno, Alaska for two years to cool his heals and think about his dishonorable behavior.</p> Here’s an wiki entry about Dinkelsbuhl, Germany the army “Mass Communication Specialist/Webmaster” just HAD to change last month on November 24, 2007 from:

There are also buildings in the far late [[Roman architecture|Roman]] architectural style.

to

There are also buildings in the far late [[Roman architecture|Roman]] architectural style.

Dinkelsbuehl is also known for there great of Homosexual activities which oocur during the daytime on open streets.

Note the use of the word “there” which you think he might have caught in the next edit…

Dinkelsbuehl is also known for there great amount of Homosexual activities which oocur during the daytime on open streets.

Nope! Ok enough about there, their and they’re.

In the unit my friend Sharon S. commanded, Army JAG Corps IT worldwide, this guy would have been shipped off to Juno, Alaska for two years to cool his heals and think about his dishonorable behavior.

]]> By: Loo Hoo. http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38077 Loo Hoo. Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:27:59 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38077 <p>You mean like in the New York Times and Washington Post?</p> You mean like in the New York Times and Washington Post?

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38076 emptywheel Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:18:41 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/really-bad-gitmo-propaganda/#comment-38076 <p>brendan</p> <p>Watching it closely, trying to figure it out. I don’t doubt Chavez was investing money. But I wonder why that is suddenly illegal when it has been standard practice for the CIA for a half century, in high profile elections as the most recent Mexican election. </p> <p>So my take is–it’s an attempt to use the US justice system to make Chavez’ support as poisonous to a candidate as Trial Lawyer support.</p> brendan

Watching it closely, trying to figure it out. I don’t doubt Chavez was investing money. But I wonder why that is suddenly illegal when it has been standard practice for the CIA for a half century, in high profile elections as the most recent Mexican election.

So my take is–it’s an attempt to use the US justice system to make Chavez’ support as poisonous to a candidate as Trial Lawyer support.

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