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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/09/football-trash-talk-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-37050</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pardon me, but which football or other sports teams and leagues do the last two comments pertain to?  My god humans, do you have no sanctity for that which is sacred?  The almighty football gods have duly noticed these infractions…..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me, but which football or other sports teams and leagues do the last two comments pertain to?  My god humans, do you have no sanctity for that which is sacred?  The almighty football gods have duly noticed these infractions…..</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/09/football-trash-talk-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-36980</link>
		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If it’s true that Bush ‘out-sourced’ his Torture to Syria and other Countries - then, how Ironic would it be if the evidence against he and Cheney and Rumsfeld at the World Court included a Bush-ordered Syrian-made Torture-tape that showed the War Crime of Waterboarding AND included the detailed confession of Saudi and Pakistani involvment in 911?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it’s true that Bush ‘out-sourced’ his Torture to Syria and other Countries &#8211; then, how Ironic would it be if the evidence against he and Cheney and Rumsfeld at the World Court included a Bush-ordered Syrian-made Torture-tape that showed the War Crime of Waterboarding AND included the detailed confession of Saudi and Pakistani involvment in 911?</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/09/football-trash-talk-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-36979</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scarecrow hits the nail on the head this morning!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/10/a-joint-investigative&quot;&gt;http://firedoglake.com/2007/12…..estigative&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
-committee-and-open-hearings-can-expose-the-torture-coverup/&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pelosi should call their bluff, someone is trying to take her out.  What is with all of this effort to make Harman who was under investigation come out smelling like a rose?  Has this investigation of Harman been dropped?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102401446.html&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01446.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Christy would say..call, e-mail, visit your reps about this critical&lt;br /&gt;
issue, the NIE report etc etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarecrow hits the nail on the head this morning!</p>
<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/10/a-joint-investigative">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12…..estigative</a><br />
-committee-and-open-hearings-can-expose-the-torture-coverup/<em></em></p>
<p>Pelosi should call their bluff, someone is trying to take her out.  What is with all of this effort to make Harman who was under investigation come out smelling like a rose?  Has this investigation of Harman been dropped?<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102401446.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01446.html</a></p>
<p>As Christy would say..call, e-mail, visit your reps about this critical<br />
issue, the NIE report etc etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/09/football-trash-talk-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-36978</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is really something how folks are trying to lay the blame of the false pre-war intelligence on “Curveball”.  As if one individual could have forced Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, John Bolton, Liv Wurmser John Hannah, Cheney, Cambone etc to believe the lies that they had all ready been disseminating.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah right it’s all Curveballs fault.  More like it was the “cakewalk in Iraq” Screwballs that lied our nation into an unnecessary and immoral war.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really something how folks are trying to lay the blame of the false pre-war intelligence on “Curveball”.  As if one individual could have forced Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, John Bolton, Liv Wurmser John Hannah, Cheney, Cambone etc to believe the lies that they had all ready been disseminating.</p>
<p>Yeah right it’s all Curveballs fault.  More like it was the “cakewalk in Iraq” Screwballs that lied our nation into an unnecessary and immoral war.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueStateRedHead</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2007/12/09/football-trash-talk-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-36972</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueStateRedHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To illustrate just how ignorant an intelligent person can be about football, I once asked: you keep talking about four downs, which one of all those lines is a down and how can there be only four?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was such an embarrassment that the junior BlueStateRedHead declared that I was forbidden to watch fourth quarters of the any Pats games until we won the Superbowl.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which we promptly did.  And then went out and read &lt;em&gt;Football for dummies&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
And they promptly lost the Superbowl.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pats were apparently better off when I was an ignoramus. There’s still hope. I am still ignorant enough (or forgotten enough of &lt;em&gt;Football for dummies&lt;/em&gt;) to have asked just a few days ago is a safety a person or a point?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seriously. Football is one place in this country where everyone wants to be not the fastest or the biggest or the toughest kid in the classroom but the smartest.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To illustrate just how ignorant an intelligent person can be about football, I once asked: you keep talking about four downs, which one of all those lines is a down and how can there be only four?</p>
<p>I was such an embarrassment that the junior BlueStateRedHead declared that I was forbidden to watch fourth quarters of the any Pats games until we won the Superbowl.</p>
<p>Which we promptly did.  And then went out and read <em>Football for dummies</em>.<br />
And they promptly lost the Superbowl.  </p>
<p>Pats were apparently better off when I was an ignoramus. There’s still hope. I am still ignorant enough (or forgotten enough of <em>Football for dummies</em>) to have asked just a few days ago is a safety a person or a point?</p>
<p>Seriously. Football is one place in this country where everyone wants to be not the fastest or the biggest or the toughest kid in the classroom but the smartest.</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
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		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The ‘trend’ seems to be: Moving previously ’secret’ meetings and agreements into the open, such as the NIE, the Torture Tapes and…dare we say - the Hospital Visit?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wouldn’t Whitehouse’s speech on Bush’s ridiculous claim to UE Super-Powers, his Above-the-Law-ness, call for more ‘clarity’ in the Power struggle at the Hospital that night?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What are the chances that the ‘document’ Gonzo had with him was merely a token of a Power relationship, the very nature of which Comey, et al, objected to, and threatened resignation en masse? What might have been the structure of that Power relationship, so object to?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From Bush’s - as Whitehouse saw it - point of view, it went like this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1 - Do as I say, not as I do&lt;br /&gt;
2 - What I say Goes&lt;br /&gt;
3 - No Back-talk&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem with the ‘document’ was very likely that it was less a legal ‘certification’ of Bush’s Program, and more a fielty ‘enablement’ of Bush’s ‘royalty’ status - and Comey, as well as most of the Senior DoJ Staff, had finally surmounted the ‘compartmentalization’ scheme to the point where they decided they were ‘No Longer going to Kiss Bush’s Ring,’ anymore.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now that Sheldon’s seen the ‘legal’ reasoning behind Bush’s Power-Grab, why not now reveal if that is what Comey, Goldsmith and crew were ‘confronting’ Bush over?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ‘trend’ seems to be: Moving previously ’secret’ meetings and agreements into the open, such as the NIE, the Torture Tapes and…dare we say &#8211; the Hospital Visit?</p>
<p>Wouldn’t Whitehouse’s speech on Bush’s ridiculous claim to UE Super-Powers, his Above-the-Law-ness, call for more ‘clarity’ in the Power struggle at the Hospital that night?</p>
<p>What are the chances that the ‘document’ Gonzo had with him was merely a token of a Power relationship, the very nature of which Comey, et al, objected to, and threatened resignation en masse? What might have been the structure of that Power relationship, so object to?</p>
<p>From Bush’s &#8211; as Whitehouse saw it &#8211; point of view, it went like this:</p>
<p>1 &#8211; Do as I say, not as I do<br />
2 &#8211; What I say Goes<br />
3 &#8211; No Back-talk</p>
<p>The problem with the ‘document’ was very likely that it was less a legal ‘certification’ of Bush’s Program, and more a fielty ‘enablement’ of Bush’s ‘royalty’ status &#8211; and Comey, as well as most of the Senior DoJ Staff, had finally surmounted the ‘compartmentalization’ scheme to the point where they decided they were ‘No Longer going to Kiss Bush’s Ring,’ anymore.</p>
<p>Now that Sheldon’s seen the ‘legal’ reasoning behind Bush’s Power-Grab, why not now reveal if that is what Comey, Goldsmith and crew were ‘confronting’ Bush over?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;aha, my apology Prof Foland. thx bmaz.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aha, my apology Prof Foland. thx bmaz.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Neil - No, he was referring to the 85 Dolphins beating the Bears that year.  It was the only loss the Bears suffered in their SuperBowl championship season, thus preserving the 72 Fins as the only unbeaten team in the modern age.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil &#8211; No, he was referring to the 85 Dolphins beating the Bears that year.  It was the only loss the Bears suffered in their SuperBowl championship season, thus preserving the 72 Fins as the only unbeaten team in the modern age.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Colts have this well in hand.  See you guys on the flip side.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Colts have this well in hand.  See you guys on the flip side.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don’t think Don Shula can expect this year’s edition of the Dolphins to do for him what the ‘85 ones did&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The ‘72 Dolphins did not lose.  I’m sure that’s what you mean, yes?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t think Don Shula can expect this year’s edition of the Dolphins to do for him what the ‘85 ones did</p>
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<p>The ‘72 Dolphins did not lose.  I’m sure that’s what you mean, yes?</p>
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