Login HereI had intended to post this thread on Friday, as a regular feature on the new digs for the rest of the season. But with so much going on, I'm just getting around to it now. To catch us up on the football trash talk, I give you Neil:
It’s 36F and overcast in Foxborough with a steady 6 MPH breeze from the northeast. You can run or throw in this weather. The players won’t be tight from extreme cold. It’s apparent the loss of Roosevelt Colvin has made the Pats run defense more vulnerable, putting additional pressure on the suspect secondary. The Pats will have a sophisticated game plan to take away the Steelers strength on offense.
The 10 point spread is an over estimate. I think the Pats have a 3-point advantage. Vegas has gotten in wrong for three weeks in a row. Things have changed since the early routes. Vegas is still catching up.
This week in the NFL is when fatigue sets in. Players’ minds are sharp but their bodies can’t execute at the same level as earlier in the season. Better, more disciplined athletes will make the plays. Expect errors like turnovers and drops that affect the outcome.
About the Rodney Harrison watch, we continue to observe if a failure on defense that results in a loss is caused by this “experienced” free safety or steroid withdrawal symptoms.
The Lions are up 10-7 against the Cowboys early in the second quarter with the ball in the red zone.
I agree with Neil about the spread: this is going to be a very tough game for the Pats. If only the Steelers were playing as well in away games as they have in years past, I'd be even more conservative than Neil.
The Rodney Harrison reference is to something I said last week; I predicted he would be the weak link in the Pats inevitable loss this year. But I think he must have read what I said, because he was really instrumental in stepping it up against the Ravens last week. Though I agree with Neil: without Roosevelt Colvin, the Linebackers all of a sudden look as old and creaky as I am.
And about those hapless Lions? They're now up 20-7 against the 'Boys.
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Prediction
Patriots 31, Steelers 21
I go with a 4 point spread, Pats. Definitely a good game.
Our man Dan’s perfect prognosis…
FOXBOROUGH - Secretariat at the Belmont was perfect. Don Larsen in Game 5 of the 1956 World Series was perfect. Bobby Orr on ice was perfect.
more stories like thisA score of 2400 on the SAT exam. John Edwards’s hair. Halle Berry in “Die Another Day.” The final two minutes of “Jungleland.” The last paragraph of “The Great Gatsby.”
All perfect.
And now the Patriots are perfect. So far. And they are the biggest story in the NFL. Every day.
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New England finishes its regular season on a Saturday night after Christmas on the road against the Giants. Think there’s any chance they can lose to Eli Manning if they go into that game with a 15-0 record? Senator John Kerry already is lobbying to assure that the game (a dreaded NFL Network production) will be televised everywhere. He knows perfection when he sees it.
We do, too.
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Shakespeare Sonnet XXIX. Super Bowl XXXVI.
All perfect.
And now the 2007 New England Patriots. Still looking for Future Perfect. Pats Perfect.
Oh sure, post NEIL’s comment… Harummppphhhh…
So as to the Iron Man’s “shoulder”, it was his elbow. Apparently, they hit his funny bone in a way that has made a couple of the fingers in his throwing hand numb. The announcers said Brett’s doctors told him that it could be a couple of weeks yet before the numbness goes away.
My prediction:
Pats 35, Steelers 23
(I’ve been drinking too many Corona’s)
I wish Fitzy was flipping the coin
Hmm, you don’t think Dan’s comment that the Pats are the biggest story in the NFL every day is biased by his job at the Boston Globe at all, do you?
I hadn’t gotten down to yours yet when I posted his. Besides, he trashed my Rodney Harrison prediction last week, so I’ve got to admit publicly that after I trashed Harrison, he went on to do very well in the Baltimore game when it mattered.
As to Favre–I’m just glad the streak is still alive. Wouldn’t want him to lose the streak for a silly thing like numb fingers… The man’s not going to be able to hold a spoon when he’s 55, though.
Phred,
There is no justice. YOU started the trash talking.
I wonder if he’s a Giants or Jets or Bears fan. Still a Mets fan I heard… from a reliable source.
Dan Shaughnessy? He’ll write whatever sells papers. Larry Bird used to call him “scoop”. I’m not fond of his column.
Dan is definitely biased…
but look at the bright side, he hates Schilling for
his pomp and supporting McCain….
I’d bet Dan is a Dem.
Schilling is a great pitcher, but a shill for the Repugs.
Neil
Nah, you were trash talking my prediction on Harrison–at least that’s what I’m gonna argue for the sake of argument.
Besides, phred had reason to believe this trash talking thread might appear, so she may have held her fire, whereas you didn’t.
In any case, I see no one answered my question on the Colts Ravens game?
Hillarious! A trash-talking compliment of sorts. Who could disagree?
Was that Judy Miller?
Yeah. My favorite is Bob Ryan… but I hate BC, and love UMASS.
Hapless they remain, those Lions. They are just plain lucky today.
BTW, YumYum put up a link to the OLC decisions, many of which for 2007 have been redacted with pen. I noticed, though, that there might have been marginalia that was redacted, first by pen, then covered in some other fashion…unless somebody else thinks it’s just poor copying process. What say you folks?
http://www.governmentattic.org…..8-2007.pdf
Ok, maybe I did start the trash talking — but you brought up football first ; )
And yes EW, my psychic friend, I was doing my best to not sidetrack the thread with football in the hopes this thread would appear My, but you are popular over here — good for you, you deserve it!
For the sake of argument, I’ll agree but you know and I know that was just me taking you seriously and reflecting on your thesis. Anyway, I was gratified to see my comment in your post. Thank you.
I can’t find your question on the Colts Raven’s game this thread or last. I’d love to see the Ravens kick the shyte out of them. I’ll read up and get back to you on that.
good one! no, not judy, a friend who’s close to fitz.
Redaction is the 2007 word of the year…
So much for sunlight?
Ok EW, I missed it too, what question about Colts-Ravens?
Oh shit. I guess I only THOUGHT I put that in the post, but really didn’t. That’s about when mr. emptywheel was emailing me from teh office to ask whether I was watching the Lions.
Rayne, I don’t think they’re lucky–they very often do well late in the season to piss other teams off. And while it won’t put the Packers even with the ‘Boys, it’ll at least get them close. Plus, then the ‘Boys can’t clinch ytet. They’re be luck, though, if Kitna doesn’t have a late fourth quarter meltdown and start throwing picks.
Bingo on what a tremendous loss Roosevelt Colvin is.
I give Belichick and Pioli tremendous credit for what they’ve done. They had to build around Brady. The problem is, it’s a finesse offense trying for homefield in Foxboro. Where was Randy Moss against Baltimore? The fact that NE only had to give up a D4 to get him, suggests that a lot of NFL GM’s were worried about how he’d play in the cold late in the season. Bitter cold and gusty winds, Foxboro in December and January is rarely ideal for the shotgun and five wides.
Damn, I think I’ve had too much coffee today.
Re: the Ravens/Colts. If the Ravens play like they did last week (and if Reed plays–he is questionable) that might well be a cracker of a game. And no, I wouldn’t be bummed if the Ravens won–they sure played well for half of last week’s game.
EW, the Lions (and Vikes) do well late in the season to blow their draft picks ; )
But, I’m puzzled why you say why a Lions victory won’t put the Pack even with the Boys? In terms of home field advantage in the playoffs? ‘Cause assuming the Pack doesn’t blow their lead, their W-L records would once again align.
I’m sorry. I’m really, really sorry to break into a thread like this, but obviously someone somewhere explained to you all how to get past the news that we effectively have no representation in government (see Marcy’s last thread) and just dig teh sports. could you explain it to me, please? because I tend to think that it’s the human ability to compartmentalize, to downshift and turn on the NFL, that kept us from developing the steam to run this corrupt administration out on a rail before they ever took office.
and yes, there’s snark there, but I mean it. PLEASE ’splainy, even later, after the game. I’d love to know. I’d save SO much on Valium.
Right. But the ‘Boys will have the win over the Packers. So the ‘Boys will need to lose one more for the Packers to get home field.
Trust me, I’d love to see some meaningful playoff games in Lambeau.
I like Bob Ryan’s writing very much. Have you read 48 Minutes: A Night in the life of the NBA. Great book. He’s a bit of a curmudgeon on teevee though.
Some BC fans are pretty fanatical to the exclusion of other teams in the Bay State. And naturally those fans get sick of it. I went to the BC Wake Forest game in September. It was a good take.
My friends’ dads coached football and wrestling at Umass when I was kid so I’m familiar with the programs. I especially enjoyed their success last year in football.
I was a fan of the teams from the small college across town where I lived on the small street between Pratt Field and Alumni Gymnasium. Umass Hockey use to play their home gamnes at Orr Rick.
IIRC, first tie breaker is head-to-head match-up.
The bottom line is that Brady has a horseshoe up his arse?
I’m a firm believer in karma, and Brady is karma-laden…
I would never bet against Brady…
anna, I think it’s cuz we’re human, ya know fallible and imperfect. We all need to escape in some way, shape or form. It’s like Happy Hour on Fri. afternoons, I just NEED it!
Lions will find a way to blow this lead, just you watch. phred, Pack won’t be even with the Boys, cuz they lost to them, so they need to finish a game ahead to get home field, a tie goes to the hated Cowboys.
Keeping balance in your life will help with all the things you find important. Read this, I found it illuminating with respect to your concern.
Yep. I was just trying to clarify what EW meant. But yes, absolutely unless the Boys manage to lose one more than the Pack, they get home field, which is bad for my Pack ’cause Brett has not done well historically in TX Stadium and sadly this kind of thing tends to crawl into his head (and consequently his throwing arm ; )
annagranfors
This blog is not FDL, it is emptywheel. Those of us who have been together for the last many months have regular football trash talk conversations, and it will continue here. It is part of our community.
I virtually abstain from almost all other kinds of pop culture: TV, movies, music, etc. Football and a few more sports are my pop culture. So I would ask if you’re begrudging my one recreational fun when I work full time and more blogging to save our democracy the rest of the time?
Brett has not done well historically in TX Stadium
Power of understatement. Though if you think about it, the superbowl will be worth that much more if Brett has to overcome his little issue with Texas Stadium. Kind of like beating that Pats did for the Colts last year.
not to worry. marcy has more steam in her little finger than most people see in their whole lives.
also, i think the football trash talk helps recharge her batteries. but, i could be wrong that… although i read through most of the threads, i really have no idea what they are talking about when the topic turns to football. *g*
Neil — that link above doesn’t appear to be active.
annagranfors — restoring our democracy will be an uphill slog. It won’t happen overnight, and I for one, need my little pleasures like following my Packers to maintain my sanity. An obsessive level of frustration will only hurt you. Keep up the good fight, but find your joys where you can. I like football, others like music, theater, dance, what have you. I like all of the above, but the magic of national sports is you can enjoy it long distance with friends and family.
European American women didn’t have a shot at representation in government until 1919. African Americans had almost no access to the vote until the 1960’s. A lot of us have known for quite some time from emptywheel and Jane how perilous our political situation is. Everyone deserves a break, it doesn’t have to be football.
When Cheney shot Harry in the face, I had no idea how many hunters we had at FDL. For days afterwards the best place to find out about what kind of gun Dick used, bird shot, hunting safety, spray patterns, shot load, lethal distance,… .
IMVHO, watching football/basketball is a great break. Lots of studies confirm much better soldiers fight when they are given breaks.
OT, a lot of topics here, the best I can do is read and learn, because of all the great commenters. A football thread, I actually have something to offer that others might find marginally helpful, entertaining.
OT, traffic is what drives advertising revenue, which is what pays emptywheel, Jane, TBogg, and everyone else. So these threads contribute to the bottom line.
Marcy, no, of course I’m not begrudging you that. (and I realize that you’re on Seder’s show in not too long, too.) that’s why I said to feel free to explain post-game.
I really am simply wondering if it’s the compartmentalization that we all need (I spent three hours watching The Mighty Boosh last night, and trying not to think of The Evil Boosh at all) that has kept us from going to the streets, a la a French general strike. it’s more just a query along the lines of recent posts everywhere that bemoan the endless stream of outrages that, in the end, go nowhere.
see, it’s that damned Suskind quote that keeps coming back to me. whether it’s apochryphal or not, we all feel the truth therein: “And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
and Neil, thanks for the link, but it’s not working. (and thanks, ALL, for your comments.)
Great stuff. I haven’t read Ryan’s book on the NBA… but it looks like
a great Christmas gift. I hung around Amherst for four years when Milt Morin and Greg Landry thrilled/charmed Alumni Stadium and when they were called the unpolitcally correct “Redmen”
I’m an old dude but more liberal than 1969…
Power of understatement.
I was trying to be kind ; ) Now that you mention it, I don’t know if there are any other stadiums he has yet to win a game in. I’ll have to see if I can find out with that googly thing. I do know that once the curse was broken in the Metrodome (and that one lasted for years), he didn’t have any more trouble up there.
And I agree with your Colts-Pats analogy. Same goes for Sox-Yankees. I find these superstitions in sports really interesting ’cause they seem quite real until the psychology of it snaps. Don’t get me wrong, I had them myself when I played and even as a fan I am careful to wear my Packer jersey and my green socks (can’t be too careful ; ) But I really thought you could see it all over Brett’s face in Dallas that he didn’t know whether he could win there. Fascinating.
Also, I suspect at least 3 of us on this thread are NOT properly compartmentalizing their lives, in that they’re watching football and engaging in both this and the thread on Pelosi. And yes, I’m prepping for Seder’s show.
I’m multi-tasking. I don’t get into full compartmentalization until the Pats come on, and I’m going to have to miss an hour of that for Seder.
selise — next time we get together at a sports bar during the football season, we’ll leave the sound up and we’ll get you up to speed so you can follow along better ; )
Yup, Sox-Yankees.
Maybe someone else knows this. But I thought there was a stat a few weeks ago that showed that Brady has won in all the stadia and I THINK they said he was the only one. But that might just reflect Texas Stadium in Brett’s case.
Thanks phred. If you’re a Packer fan, I hope you get a chance to read Bob McGinn (Michigan grad) in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. If you want to know why the Packers won or lost, he’s the best.
Or you can ask BlueStateRedHead, who apparently was a quick study!
Few people are talking about what the Colts can do because we know what they can do. The question is what the Ravens can do. Here’s an edited (pared down) scouting report from Ravesn24×7.com by A Wilson.
The Colts are favored by 10.
Context - The Ravens
Containing Peyton Manning
Willis McGahee impressive performance
McAlister’s knee
oops
Barber’s by Emptypockets, The Next Hurrah
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c…..rbers.html
Thanks Boo — I don’t usually read the MSJ, but I’ll check McGinn out.
annagranfors@41. I’m a multi-tasker (like many here I bet), right now I’m watching FB, checking out the web, and evaluating applications for a nat’l fellowship (my prize for each one completed application is a glimpse here).
My sense of the problem you bring up vis-a-vis the political disconnect is that more and more families are having one or more adults working 2 plus jobs just to make ends meet, feeling great anxiety about rising costs across the board, healthcare, and finding a way to pay kids’ college tuition etc. Those concerns eat away at one’s ability to move constructively on political issues.
Oooo, good choice, I really liked her post. Thanks for updating the link.
If those darn Chargers tie this thing up and consequently delays the real game of the day I will be a might pi**ed.
Oops
mightmiteditto!
48 Mins is about a 24 hour period before, during and after the Celtics, Cleveland Caveliers game in ‘81 I think. Ryan knows his basketball. I remember Milt Morin and Greg Landry. My best friend’s dad was the Umass Head Trainer. We’d go to practices and games together at Umass and Amherst. I was 9.
Was it ‘70 when Umass hosted the Pats trainnig camp? I think so. We went and watched.
I can remeber parades and the Umass Marching Band marching through downtown at homecoming. I remember bon fires and pep rallies Friday night. Those days are gone.
thanks! that sounds like fun… it’s great to have such nice tutors. but, it’s also kinda fun to just get the vicarious enjoyment of watching you-all get into to it. (and i confess to being an ex-basketball fan… my mom hooked me in ‘85 & ‘86 by taking me to see the celtics play in the old boston garden. then when i moved to CA i bought a season ticket to the golden state warriors. moving to dallas in the ’90s and going to grad school eventually made me realize i didn’t have the $, the time or the brain cells to devote to it anymore. but probably more than anything it was the lack of other fans to enjoy the games with.
Oooh Detroit’s up 6 with 5:47 to go. Detroit ball on its own 5!
Bridget Moynahan bet on Tommy and lost. Also, I wasn’t dissing Tommy as a qb. Prior to this year he never had anywhere close to the quality of wide receivers that Harrison, Wayne, and Clark give Petyon.
You might want to watch some of the hits that the Ravens put on Brady. That’s the weakness of the shot gun, it’s very difficult to move the pocket and the dlinemen have a lot less to worry about. Again, the shot-gun certainly fits NE’s talent, but it also points out the aptness of your point about not betting against Brady. If Brady gets hurt, the Pats aren’t even a .500 team.
Covered the pats that summer (’70?) for Hartford Courant and some freelance.
Lots of fun. Learned all about drinking tomato juice and beer love it still when I am hot and worn out.
phred, what’s sports did you play? What was your favorite?
Great line (hold that line!)
I forgot about Bridget…
Neil
Well, let’s see whether Romo really is the latter day incarnation of Favre…
phred is another of the phemale retired ruggers around these parts.
“Greer is putting the ball in play. He gets it out deep and Havlicek steals it! Over to Sam Jones… Havlicek stole the ball! It’s all over… It’s all-l-l-l over!”
Ryan’s best is basketball
Missing Johnny the Most
selise,
IT’S TIME to renew your Celtics fanaticism. They are good, probably really good, and you haven’t missed a thing since ‘86. They’re in Sacreamento this month on the 26th. You won’t regret it.
Oh my yes. Ordway was the best of the rest
The boys are on the 20 with :28 to go, maybe (review).
Neil, I went to a tiny Div. III college, so the sports I played were all club sports, not varsity. That said I was on the soccer, swimming, and rugby teams (in order of fall, winter, spring). Of those I loved rugby best. As a Packer fan and a girl I was channeling my frustration in not being able to play football, I think ; ) I also played racquetball casually, which I loved, but my knees aren’t so good so I had to give that up along with the rugby in grad school. I played softball for awhile (pitcher, catcher, and 2nd — can’t throw for shit, I’m sorry to say ; )
But I pined for a real sport, so a friend got me into rowing. And there I found my true love in sports. Better than rugby, better than weightlifting. Absolutely the finest athletic experience I have ever had. There is a real zen-like quality to rowing when you’re in an 8 and everything is moving smoothly. What I miss most was being on the Charles with Storrow Drive on one side, Memorial on the other, seeing the Citgo sign and the buildings of Boston and Cambridge all around you and all you would hear were the oars in the water and the creak of the oar locks and the seats moving in unison. It was heaven. Way better than a solid tackle.
How ’bout you?
You are clairvoyant.
Damn. It’s not even like the Lions self-destructed this time, except for that Hansen field goal.
And those Chargers are ruining my schedule.
Damn damn damn. I take it the Pussycats blew it again. Damn. I hate the Cowboys!
ah, but now i’m back in MA and my mom is gone…
Ryan also tends to reply if you send him an email, whether you are complimenting him or disagreeing with him. I do like that.
How bout them Cowboys! Looks like “Ten Win Kitna” learned his math from KKKarl Rover.
Looks like the Bolts zapped the Titans late to send into overtime. That must compound EW’s multitasking slightly…
This game is a real gut check for the Pats. One close one against Philly is meaningless, two in a row after Baltimore makes you wonder and probably has the the players’ attention. Three in a row could signify some real vulnerability. I don’t gamble, but I convo I had at a b-day party last night had me feeling the Pats would win by more than 10.5 simply because the Pats have got to be feeling they need to do more than get by.
Steelers are pounding away though.
Condolences selise.
OT, about the Celtics, long before anyone else in the NBA ever thought about it, Auerbach made Bill Russell the Celtic’s coach, 1966. It’s comparable imvho to what Branch Rickey and Jackie Robinson did.
I don’t know about MI, but it’s on here. Go Steelers! Can’t help myself, where would the talk be without the trash?
Red also drafted the first black player and was the first coach to start five blacks. All Red ever wanted to do was find the best players and win.
Not to put a damper on the legend of Tony Romo to Whitten undefeated to win the NFC East 27-26 @ 12-1, or the Pats quest to remain undefeated. Not to bring law into football, but tomorrow I hope Vick gets the max from Henry Hudson for serially murdering dogs. I ‘m almost always defense oriented, but not this time.
I don’t see it as a “little mistake to get past” the way many people do.
Sorry to misplace that “undefeated”–I know the Cowboys are 12-1.
Oh man, there’s some trash talking going on in Foxboro.
Boys win in a great comeback.
San Diego ties it up and CBS4 cuts to commercials and segs to the pre-game Patriots show. (Chargers won it in OT!)
BayStateLibrul – Did you watch the Celtics on TV, turn down the sound and listen to the Johnny Most broadcast? He was such a homer and we loved him for it. “It’s rock fight! McFilthy and McNasty (Pistons Forwards) are out there sucker punching the…”
Phred – you make me wish I had taken up rowing. I used to live on Clarendon Street. I loved to run along the Charles on the Esplanade and Memorial Drive. In my school days I played football, wrestled and lacrosse. I was more skilled at the first two than the spring sport so I played defense in lax in college. While I gave up wrestling freshman year in college, I played four years of football and lacrosse. I too went to a small D3 school. I needed to find a new sport when I graduated so I took up basketball and I love it still. My desire to compete, my enjoyment of basketball, gets me to the gym four or five times a week to train my cardiovascular capacity, otherwise, there would be no way I could still play. Use it or lose it.
Ok, the Pats game needs my undivided attention, except if Emptywheel is on Sam Seder live and I won’t be able to catch it on podcast later. Anyone know?
Lucky they all kept their hands at their sides or we would have seen a flurry of yellow hankies.
Neil
I’m fairly sure Sam’s always available later on podcast. So you go make sure the Pats have three times this lead by the time and I’ll go do Sam’s show try and raise hell on Sam’s show.
Sorry to hear about your mom. Have you watched the Celts on Comcast? It’s exciting basketball. Unlike many NBA teams, the Celtics play hard all four quarters.
On the sidelines, Pat’s olinemen to Tom: “Unless you want to block them, stfu.”
Just trying to show off my new linking prowess, but it appears you can get podcasts of Seder’s shows, so perhaps you can listen to it after the game…
Will do. If the Pats defense can keep hammering Big Ben we’ll be in good shape… the Pats offense is moving the ball today!
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I dunno. I think that whatever sentence Vick is given by the court has to be pardoned (commuted) by Bush immediately. Commander Guy has decidered; no crime analogous to, or lesser than, perjury and obstruction of justice merits actually serving time in incarceration. I mean, we do want to be consistent don’t we?
thanks phred! nice linking. Are you you still able to get out rowing on the Chas?
no, i don’t have cable tv. although i’m thinking about it… for the c-span channels *g*
charter has a deal going on now (probably because of the writer’s strike) - 12 months at $40/mo for internet, voip and basic cable tv. sounds too good to be true.
Oops.
Well, at least I got to see another Pats TD before Sam’s show.
You’re welcome — I’m trying not to be too pleased with myself (h/t of course to EW )
With regards to the rowing, alas no. I have an awful commute these days, puts a real crimp in engaging in hobbies. I sure miss it though. I’m envious of your time on Clarendon and the handy access to the Esplanade. We’re not far, but I would either have to drive or take the T to get there. I could bike, but by the time I made it over that way, it would be time to turn around and head home again. Still, we’ve got some nice places to bike over this way, so I can’t complain. But I do miss the rowing…
Yahoo… Bill’s got new digs on, and Moss is wide open…
Pats 14, Steelers 3…
That 10.5 over feeling I had last night is starting to look good. Of course, if I were an actual gambler, it would ruin my juju
Yeah Boo, Auerbach knew the only one who could motivate Russell was Russell.
I saw Red’s statue at Faneuil Hall Friday near King Fish. It’s a wonderful tribute. Saturday, I went to Brandeis to watch the Judges play and beat the Jeffs of Amherst in Men’s Basketball. The Jeffs are last year’s defending NCAA national champions. The basketball floor is named after Red. I’m sure he donated some cash, the Celts used to practice there before they built their own facility in Waltham.
Brady to Moss - TOUCHDOWN! Where are those Pittsburgh safeties?
Neil, our deal is that you make sure there’s 3X the lead that they have when I go on the air, okay? So starting in about 10 minutes.
I don’t want another one of these close games.
In that case I hope you just missed that run by Parker.
Yup, I’m on hold upstairs from the Teevee, so I’ll be relying on updates for the next hour.
WooHoo! Go Steelers!
In that case, Steelers just scored a TD : )
Per phred, Ben pass to Najeh Davenport (back up rb). 14 - 10.
G-damn. Hobbs just got beat on the deep route. And Big Ben made a great move in the pocket to buy himself the time he needed.
I hope I don’t let you down. Belichik stopped taking my calls when he learned I was from Amherst.
Knock ‘em dead on Seder. I’ll do my best, you know that.
Najeh Davenport - former Packer : ) I know, I can be insufferable…
Say it ain’t so, phred, say it ain’t so.
phred knows football.
Steelers learned from the Ravens, if Belichick wants Brady in the shot gun, the Steelers are coming after him.