Sep 13, 2007 CIA acknowledges that they have video of 1 interrogation
Sep 19, 2007 DoJ USAs view video
Oct 18, 2007 DoJ USAs view 2nd video and listens to audio of interrogations

So they must have been destroyed subsequent to Oct 18 2007. Brinkema must be steaming.

“Rep. Jane Harman of California, then the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee and one of only four members of Congress informed of the tapes’ existence, said she objected to the destruction when informed of it in 2003.”

http://ap.google.com/article/A…..cch2P9ymXa
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Hayden Says CIA Videotapes Destroyed

Oh, there are definitely tapes. After all, we know they taped Padilla’s torture interrogations in 2004–and one of those is missing. But yeah–Hayden is lying about stopping the practice. That’s also why I included all the taping/photographing stuff from the ACLU fight, because it shows they considered taping as parts of interrogation still viable. In 2005, after they destroyted the tapes.

But he ahs to say they stopped taping, bc otherwise it’ll ruin the argument that they didn’t need to keep the tapes.

There are still tapes. Here’s why:

Every time Wikileaks posts a Gitmo SOP (they’ve done it twice now), I’ve gone through the damn things and found a couple things which call bullsh*t on Hayden saying they haven’t taped since 2002, and all the other crap he’s spewing.

The leaked SOPs were promulgated in 2003 and 2004.
Each of the SOPs indicates where “Combat cameramen” will be when prisoners are being transported. Which vehicle, where they sit, everything. The “combat camera” crews are part of the operation.

For those of you without military experience, combat camera crews were first put together in an organized way in WWII. Basically, when they drafted (a) guys from Hollywood who knew how to use a camera, particularly a motion picture camera, (b) guys whose hobbies or work included photography (still or motion picture), or (c) similarly inclined people (e.g., copyboys at newspapers, etc.), they had a good chance of winding up as soldiers, but having their military job be to record battles and military operations. They were combat cameramen. Every time you see that Marines Corps recruiting ad on TV with the color film of the flag being raised on Iwo Jima – that’s actual footage by a combat cameraman. George H.W. Bush, shot down, being fished out of the ocean by the submarine – actual combat camera footage. A lot of the battle footage from WWII was by them. It’s in the National Archives.

The basic purpose, BTW, was twofold – (1) creating a historical record and (2) providing visual material to help with “lessons learned”, “what works”, etc.

What does it mean, today, when we discover the SOP at Gitmo required the presence of combat camera crews?
1. Everything is recorded.
2. Those recordings exist somewhere.

So far, there is more evidence to support that Bush was a collaborator in Plame’s outing as there in this (though I don’t doubt it may be easier to prove here). And that didn’t prevent him from commuting Libby’s sentence.

The only way to punish a president for using the pardon power improperly is impeach him.

http://spreadsheets.google.com…..05ck9yCCPw

Looks like the events of March 2006 caused a small country to pull out some iffy documentation: “Iran has bought long-range missiles, says Israel; “Iran has obtained missiles from North Korea capable of delivering nuclear payloads to eastern Europe, according to Israel’s military intelligence chief.” (Soviet manufactured BM-25 missiles)”. If there had not been the crisis with Hezbollah that summer, we likely would have seen a rapid ramp-up to war with Iran then.

Was the crisis a coincidence, I wonder…

There has been no mention of the claim about missiles since then, either, or at least I cannot recall one and I haven’t run across another since April 2006. Was the data for the NIE already nearing completion, intimidating certain entities to take drastic measures?

Let’s first focus on this question: Why is this evidence being destroyed? The answer is painfully acknowledged. The CIA leadership and other senior administration officials are fully cognizant of the fact that the use of a number of specific practices which these tapes almost certainly document, to-wit: waterboarding, long-time standing, hypothermia, psychotropic drugs and sleep deprivation in excess of two days, are serious crimes under American law and the law of almost all nations. Consequently, those who have used them and those who have authorized their use will almost certainly ultimately face criminal prosecution at some point in the future. The Administration’s attempts to immunize the perpetrators have failed. Any purported grant of a pardon by President Bush will be legally ineffective, because Bush himself is a collaborator in the scheme. And there is no statute of limitations. Therefore the prospect of prosecution is hardly far-fetched. It is a virtual certainty. So the evidence is being destroyed precisely because it would be used as evidence of criminal acts in a prosecution of administration figures and those acting under their direction. Therefore, this is a conscious, calculated obstruction of justice.

Obstruction of Justice at the CIA
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Scott Horton
December 6, 2007

Horton is jumping from point A to C rather quickly here, right? Any prosecutors want to comment on these assertions?

Is Bush’s power to pardon restricted to parties with whom he is not an accomplice? Is there evidence that puts into question Bush’s case for plausible deniability?